@Bovidae said in NBA Season 20/21:
I'm not sure why the Pacers were happy to trade Oladipo to the Rockets in all this. Unless his contract is nearing an end.
He is an unrestricted FA at the end of this season
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@Bovidae said in NBA Season 20/21:
I'm not sure why the Pacers were happy to trade Oladipo to the Rockets in all this. Unless his contract is nearing an end.
He is an unrestricted FA at the end of this season
He must have not wanted to stay, or at least suggested this by not signing an extension. Funny because I thought he seemed to have found a home there, in the same state as he played college hoops
@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@Bovidae said in NBA Season 20/21:
I'm not sure why the Pacers were happy to trade Oladipo to the Rockets in all this. Unless his contract is nearing an end.
He is an unrestricted FA at the end of this season
He must have not wanted to stay, or at least suggested this by not signing an extension. Funny because I thought he seemed to have found a home there, in the same state as he played college hoops
I don’t think it’s an easy situation for him given they are a fringe team right now and unless they were making other moves they were never going to contend. Plus holding out he may have got close to a max deal given there aren’t a huge number of big name players coming off contract at the end of 2021.
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader I'm quietly impressed by our start actually
I’m a DeRozan fan. He was never going to be a superstar, but I love his mid range game and when he attacks the basket and dunks on guys.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader I'm quietly impressed by our start actually
I’m a DeRozan fan. He was never going to be a superstar, but I love his mid range game and when he attacks the basket and dunks on guys.
he and LMA are enough to get us to .400. Mills playing great ball, and the continued development of Murray could push us to .500 and a playoff spot. We're first round fodder though.
It's a bit of a crazy season though, the lack of crowds is really warping sport around the world.
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
and now i've just read Harden to the Nets in a 4-team trade deal?
madness
on court results aside, Sean Marks is making waves as GM
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
and now i've just read Harden to the Nets in a 4-team trade deal?
madness
Can someone explain to me what a 4 team trade deal is?
@Hooroo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
and now i've just read Harden to the Nets in a 4-team trade deal?
madness
Can someone explain to me what a 4 team trade deal is?
Like a merry go round. Team A trades something to team B who trades something to team C who trades something to team D. So all teams get what they want when team A couldn't just trade to team D
@Hooroo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
and now i've just read Harden to the Nets in a 4-team trade deal?
madness
Can someone explain to me what a 4 team trade deal is?
Given the size of Harden’s contract at Houston and the fact that Nets current salary load with just 3 players (KD, Kyrie and Harris), it would take a multiple team deal to get Harden to the Nets.
Nice to see the Knicks on tv. Get a bit tired of the same teams being shown again and again.
@Magpie_in_aus god i fucking LOVE that movie
@KiwiMurph said in NBA Season 20/21:
@canefan Kyrie stays (for now).
Just for those who missed the details of the trade.
ESPN saying that Harden is only the second player to be traded the year after being the league's top scorer. The first player was Tracy McGrady.
@Bovidae said in NBA Season 20/21:
ESPN saying that Harden is only the second player to be traded the year after being the league's top scorer. The first player was Tracy McGrady.
That was when T-Mac went from the Magic after the 03-04 season to the Rockets where he spent the next 6 seasons I think. Magic also sacked their coach during the season after T-Mac left.
Magic didn’t make the playoffs in 03-04 and lost in the first round the two previous seasons despite T-Mac leading the league in scoring in 2 of those 3 seasons.
Rockets with T-Mac and Yao lost in the first round to the Mavs. Was an awesome series that one.
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@Magpie_in_aus god i fucking LOVE that movie
Totally, after watching that clip I'm gonna have to rewatch the whole thing again, yay working from home
Surely if you're Sean Marks aka the future GM GOAT, you trade Kyrie for 3-4 role players/defenders/rebounders now? Ideally non sage-burning hyper-emotional nutcases. Unless you're playing with 3 balls this trio is otherwise going to implode IMO.
Not sure how long they can keep this regular season going like this. Postponed games every night, teams barely scraping 8 players, results being skewed by significant outs, some big minutes being forced on some players, new restrictions on players, coaches and support staff.
I reckon they shorten the season to 45-50 games.
Anyone else watch Nets v Magic yesterday? Harden with an opening game 30 point TD. Loved Steve Nash post game press conference “he definitely stuffed the star sheet. He almost got a quadruple double”. Harden had 9 turnovers 
Harden at least looked interested and played decent defence. Some of the turnovers were errant passes which you could put down to lack of chemistry. He worked well with Jeff Green. KD was at his efficient best with 42 points on only 26 shots. Harris was hitting too.
If Kyrie comes back there is a very good ‘small ball’ lineup of KD, Green, Harris, Kyrie and Harden to close out games. Throw Shamet into the mix if you want more shooting and depending on the opposition.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
Not sure how long they can keep this regular season going like this. Postponed games every night, teams barely scraping 8 players, results being skewed by significant outs, some big minutes being forced on some players, new restrictions on players, coaches and support staff.
I reckon they shorten the season to 45-50 games.
the schedule now has more postponed games than those played. Some teams are just hammered, it's a complete sham at this point.
But i don't think the league can afford to not play can they? No league can.
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
@mariner4life I don’t think they can stop it completely, but the schedule needs a serious look at.
Today the Knicks beat the Celtics by 30. No Tatum and whilst Kemba and Teague were back they were on minute restrictions. Offence was all over the show.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life I don’t think they can stop it completely, but the schedule needs a serious look at it.
Today the Knicks beat the Celtics by 30. No Tatum and whilst Kemba and Teague were back they were on minute restrictions. Offence was all over the show.
you didn't even need to delve in to the stats to know how restricted the Celtics were. Getting blown out by the Nicks, and posting a small score, you knew they weren't at full strength.
Aren't the Heat severely impacted as well?
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life I don’t think they can stop it completely, but the schedule needs a serious look at.
Today the Knicks beat the Celtics by 30. No Tatum and whilst Kemba and Teague were back they were on minute restrictions. Offence was all over the show.
they shot 7-46 for 3!
NBA Regular Season, no fucking thanks
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Who will take on Kyrie right now? Plus if they are actively talking to any teams and they can’t find a team then Kyrie will probably do an AD and spit the dummy and not play.
I think they hope for the best and that he comes back and buys in.
Kyrie on the wing without the ball handling responsibilities could be awesome for the Nets. As long as Harden takes a bit of time off his own dancing with the ball.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Who will take on Kyrie right now? Plus if they are actively talking to any teams and they can’t find a team then Kyrie will probably do an AD and spit the dummy and not play.
I think they hope for the best and that he comes back and buys in.
Kyrie on the wing without the ball handling responsibilities could be awesome for the Nets. As long as Harden takes a bit of time off his own dancing with the ball.
huge if.
but if it works...
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?
Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?
At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.
I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
The Sixers one won’t happen.
agree, 3 weeks ago I'd have said it would be a go, but Kyrie isn't helping himself
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?
Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?
At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.
I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.
Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?
Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?
At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.
I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.
Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron
Pop quiz for you, how many teams has Jeff Green been on? Don't include Seattle becoming OKC as 2 teams
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.
question. Trade Kyrie?
Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.
ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?
Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?
At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.
I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.
Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron
Pop quiz for you, how many teams has Jeff Green been on? Don't include Seattle becoming OKC as 2 teams
Without consulting google I can think of Celtics (twice), Cavs, Nets, Grizzlies, Rockets, Sonics/Thunder, Clippers, Magic
@ACT-Crusader yep, 10 teams in 12 seasons. Its pretty "impressive"!
@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:
@ACT-Crusader yep, 10 teams in 12 seasons. Its pretty "impressive"!
Second highest amongst active players. Ish Smith has played for 11 and has been in the league a few seasons less than Green.
Nothing beats Jimmy Jackson though. Didn’t he move around after it all went sour at the Mavs.