NBA Season - now 24/25

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.

question. Trade Kyrie?

Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.

ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?

The Sixers one won’t happen.

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.

question. Trade Kyrie?

Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.

ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?

At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.

I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

The Sixers one won’t happen.

agree, 3 weeks ago I'd have said it would be a go, but Kyrie isn't helping himself

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.

question. Trade Kyrie?

Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.

ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?

At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.

I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.

Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.

question. Trade Kyrie?

Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.

ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?

At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.

I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.

Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron

Pop quiz for you, how many teams has Jeff Green been on? Don't include Seattle becoming OKC as 2 teams

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader it's certainly an interesting experiment.

question. Trade Kyrie?

Absolutely. I've been banging this drum for a while. They don't need his offense, but they sure need some defense. They probably can't get Simmons now for him, but even Dort from OKC plus picks would be a great trade.

ah the mythical Ben Simmons. Is Simmons going to go anywhere to be a defensive role player who can pass? because that's all he is, even if he doesn't want to admit it. And how much are you willing to pay for that?

Look, I really dislike Simmons, but how absolutely PERFECT is that for a team with Harden, KD and Joe Harris? Imagine him running the break, finding KD in transition or a trailing Harden/Harris?

At the moment KD is their best defender - they don't need him wearing down over the playoffs because he's on Tatum for 40mins, then LeBron in the finals.

I reckon I'd look closely at Dort - great defender, shoots the 3 at > 40%. Would OKC take a punt on Kyrie for him? Pretty wild fall from grace for Kyrie if they didnt.

Jeff Green and Harris aren’t bad defenders. Green is definitely someone that can play on Giannis or Lebron

Pop quiz for you, how many teams has Jeff Green been on? Don't include Seattle becoming OKC as 2 teams

Without consulting google I can think of Celtics (twice), Cavs, Nets, Grizzlies, Rockets, Sonics/Thunder, Clippers, Magic

Missed two, he played with the Wizards and Jazz in between Cavs and Rockets.

@ACT-Crusader yep, 10 teams in 12 seasons. Its pretty "impressive"!

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader yep, 10 teams in 12 seasons. Its pretty "impressive"!

Second highest amongst active players. Ish Smith has played for 11 and has been in the league a few seasons less than Green.

Nothing beats Jimmy Jackson though. Didn’t he move around after it all went sour at the Mavs.

This Nets v Bucks game has a bit of intensity to it and is now down to the wire.

Giannis must be thinking - oh great - my East path just got even harder.

@KiwiMurph said in NBA Season 20/21:

Giannis must be thinking - oh great - my East path just got even harder.

It could be worse, he could be in the West

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@KiwiMurph said in NBA Season 20/21:

Giannis must be thinking - oh great - my East path just got even harder.

It could be worse, he could be in the West

the West is easy

if you are the Lakers.

Curry on a revenge tour....

The most animated I’ve seen Vogel this season. He knew that if the Warriors hung around that Curry would have his moment.

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Get more shots for Joe Harris

Cavs were lights out from 3. They hit 20 of them. Sexton had a career night and the team as a whole shot the ball very well.

Jarrett Allen had a nice little game against his former team

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Funny that Harden and Durant won their games, Kyrie comes back and they get the L

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Funny that Harden and Durant won their games, Kyrie comes back and they get the L

NARRATIVE!

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Funny that Harden and Durant won their games, Kyrie comes back and they get the L

NARRATIVE!

Truth

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Funny that Harden and Durant won their games, Kyrie comes back and they get the L

NARRATIVE!

Truth

facts is facts Harry

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@canefan said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Funny that Harden and Durant won their games, Kyrie comes back and they get the L

NARRATIVE!

Truth

facts is facts Harry

Have they had the presser yet where Kyrie throws all the other team mates under the bus? And management?

They actually played okay for their first game. Kyrie and KD got plenty of shots. Harden got plenty of dribbles.

They had a few issues on their pick n roll defence, but Cavs do not shoot 20/40 from 3 on many nights. And they weren’t all wide open shots either.

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

They actually played okay for their first game. Kyrie and KD got plenty of shots. Harden got plenty of dribbles.

They had a few issues on their pick n roll defence, but Cavs do not shoot 20/40 from 3 on many nights. And they weren’t all wide open shots either.

exactly. obviously i didn't watch (on this, are there less games on ESPN now?) but the first gig together is always going to be tough. and it looked a crazy game. box score wise they all did pretty well.

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

They actually played okay for their first game. Kyrie and KD got plenty of shots. Harden got plenty of dribbles.

They had a few issues on their pick n roll defence, but Cavs do not shoot 20/40 from 3 on many nights. And they weren’t all wide open shots either.

exactly. obviously i didn't watch (on this, are there less games on ESPN now?) but the first gig together is always going to be tough. and it looked a crazy game. box score wise they all did pretty well.

ESPN showed a couple of games today. They have at least 5-6 each week. SBS Viceland also show 2-3 a week also.

@ACT-Crusader said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

the Nets lose in the big 3's first game. what does this meeeeaaaannnn?

Get more shots for Joe Harris

Bump....

Joe Harris had a very good game today.

Loving what a Colin Sexton is doing. That kid had what it took from the moment he stared down his opposing player in school. He’s a gangster. He doesn’t care who you or what your done. He’s out to compete. Great last couple games again the nets.

One year to the day. I read this and the room got dusty....

Lakers lose back to back games for the first time this season.

Heat are in a funk. No Jimmy Butler, but the effort just isn’t there. They lost to a Leonard and George less Clippers. They’ve lost their last 5 are now 6-12.

Rockets on a mini 4 game winning streak after coming back from 20 today. Shout out to Tate (played for the Sydney Kings last year) who has been starting for the Rockets and playing well. Victor and Wall starting to play better. Boogie is putting in too.

Here’s a not so nice stat - Bradley Beal becomes the first player in NBA history to lose 10 straight games when he has scored 40 or more points. Ouch. I like Beal, but I think he made a bit of a mistake signing that massive extension.

Steven Adams had a career high 20 boards tonight. 10 of those offensive boards. He probably played the most minutes in a game for a while too (38). He was huge in creating opportunities for a really balanced scoring game for the Pelicans.

Zion looked fluent. Ball and Bledsoe played their best fame together and shot the ball very well. Ingram did his thing and Hart hit shots.

Huge win for them and to score 130+ against the Bucks who are a very good defensive side.

LOL at the Nets

Simultaneously the best offence, and worst defense of all time. Score 140+ against the fucking Wizards in regulation and lose?

Mark this post down for discussion in a few months, but I'm struggling a bit with this regular season. In reality, we are killing time until we get Lakers/Nets in the Finals. Aren't we??!?

Sure, the Clippers could get their act together but they are the only realistic challengers in the west. The east is a bit more competitive, with the Celtics, Sixers and Bucks all in with a hope.

But I watched the Nets over the weekend, and they just have too much talent. They will work the defence out in time. I forgot just how good Durant could be. I struggle to see how they are knocked off in a 7 game series by anyone other than Lebron.

yeah, it's like a couple of years back where we just waited for LeBron v the Warriors

I think the East is actually very competitive, and i am not yet willing to pick that winner. If the Nets can find the capital to add a couple of defensive role players, then it's a lock.

ECF is surely an all LA game unless they fuck up the regular season and end up on the same side of the finals draw.

It really does feel more and more like the regular season doesn't matter

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

yeah, it's like a couple of years back where we just waited for LeBron v the Warriors

I think the East is actually very competitive, and i am not yet willing to pick that winner. If the Nets can find the capital to add a couple of defensive role players, then it's a lock.

Yeah you'd think they could find a few ring-chasing veterans around buyout time.

I've been impressed by the Celtics and by the Sixers. For all the 'trade Ben Simmons' talk the team is clicking as good as I've ever seen it, thanks mainly to good form by Embiid and Harris. But that's all facilitated by Simmons.

People potting Simmons because he isn't a big scorer miss the point. The obsession with shooting leads us to the cult of Russell Westbrook, racking up big numbers but at the expense of winning games. Simmons decline in PPG this season could be viewed as a positive, if it means guys like Seth Curry and Harris are getting more shots in better positions.

there's a big difference between wanting a guy to shoot all the time, and bagging a guy for not shooting when he the only open guy.

But they have found the mix that works, and are sitting pretty at the top.

East is def not a lock yet. Bucks, Nets, Celts and Philly all in it.

Simmons gets a hard time, but it is pretty amazing his reluctance to shoot. He actually shies away from the all in crunch time for fear of being fouled, thats not ideal. Embiid is the heater and soul of that team and should be MVP fav right now

@voodoo hard to be totally effective when you aren't a scoring threat

@voodoo said in NBA Season 20/21:

East is def not a lock yet. Bucks, Nets, Celts and Philly all in it.

Simmons gets a hard time, but it is pretty amazing his reluctance to shoot. He actually shies away from the all in crunch time for fear of being fouled, thats not ideal. Embiid is the heater and soul of that team and should be MVP fav right now

The mechanics of his shot is still a problem. I wonder if he can do a Tony Parker....

This regular season is even more weird and I reckon by the playoffs it will be some form of bubble.

The only real positive thing about that Nets v Wizards game was there was a glimpse of that killer instinct Russ back. Sure the Wizards have issues and they are missing some key guys, but I actually like that Russ. He’s got edge and the NBA needs that IMO.

@barbarian said in NBA Season 20/21:

@mariner4life said in NBA Season 20/21:

yeah, it's like a couple of years back where we just waited for LeBron v the Warriors

I think the East is actually very competitive, and i am not yet willing to pick that winner. If the Nets can find the capital to add a couple of defensive role players, then it's a lock.

Yeah you'd think they could find a few ring-chasing veterans around buyout time.

I've been impressed by the Celtics and by the Sixers. For all the 'trade Ben Simmons' talk the team is clicking as good as I've ever seen it, thanks mainly to good form by Embiid and Harris. But that's all facilitated by Simmons.

People potting Simmons because he isn't a big scorer miss the point. The obsession with shooting leads us to the cult of Russell Westbrook, racking up big numbers but at the expense of winning games. Simmons decline in PPG this season could be viewed as a positive, if it means guys like Seth Curry and Harris are getting more shots in better positions.

It was the way that Ben played those final possessions that showed a glaringly obvious flaw in his current game. I’m a fan, but if he is going to be in the game when it’s on the line in the final minutes/seconds, what is his role? He’s dribbling up the top, I’m defending and playing way off him. If he’s off the ball he’s either clogging the paint or he’s a non-issue on the wings and his man can go help defend.

It’s a problem

A good game between the Nets and Clippers today. The Nets didn't shit the bed in the end but it was close. Irving had a huge game while KD and Harden had their moments. They played some D as well.