I dunno but Brad Pitt played one sensationally in Snatch.
<p>Brad Pitt was superb apparently he lived with Travellers to research what it would be like to live with Angelina Jolie lol</p>
<p>Settled Travellers (in a house) are known as Knackers not a pretty name and I don't think they would appeciate u calling it to them</p>
<p>The old name in Ireland is Tinkers. apparently because they tinkered with metals to make pots to sell which isn't a bad name</p>
<p>Its hard to explain how much they are despised by settled people in Ireland- we really have nothing like it in NZ</p>
Not just Ireland. Pretty much Europe wide. Hitler didn't like them much either. About 1/4 mill went in the holocaust
<p>Are those people in NZ who run the Gypsy fairs travelers/gypsies or are they more the hippy type people?</p>
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<p>Catching rabbits by putting a ferret down the rabbit hole. I know people in NZ that do the same thing.</p>
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Are those people in NZ who run the Gypsy fairs travelers/gypsies or are they more the hippy type people?</p></blockquote>
Most of them seem to do fruit picking and other seasonal work and crafts too, they have a fair locally when they come to town which is usually pretty good. There's usually some pretty talented metal workers making stuff on forges and paua carving etc.<br>
The ones I mentioned earlier were not the same, just ferals with buses. More like your knacker/ pikie type scumbags.
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<p>I dunno but Brad Pitt played one sensationally in Snatch.</p>
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<p>Best opening lines in a film ever. "Pikeys. I fucking hate pikeys".</p>
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<p>Not just Ireland. Pretty much Europe wide. <strong>Hitler didn't like them much either.</strong> About 1/4 mill went in the holocaust</p>
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<p>That was more your middle european Roma. He wouldn't have had a go at the UK pikeys as he knew they would have torched his bunker and nicked his dog.</p>
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Vastly underrated compared to lock stock.....I think the films are equal all things considered.<br><br>
Fuck London is a hole.
They don't just confine their dodgy dealings to the British Isles. A few years ago a couple of them turned up outside my townhouse in Oslo. Was a weird experience to say the least. They were offering to do up my front yard. They showed me an impressive "portfolio" of their work. Having seen Snatch I didn't want to piss them off so told them I was skint.<br><br>
Found out later that they were becoming a serious problem. You pay them up front, they do a shit job and demand more cash to fix. You pay them more and they promptly piss off. Considering Norwegians are the most trusting and naive people on the planet, they probably made a fortune.<br><br>
Can't blame Tyson Fury if he's a little farked in the head.
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<p>They don't just confine their dodgy dealings to the British Isles. A few years ago a couple of them turned up outside my townhouse in Oslo. Was a weird experience to say the least. They were offering to do up my front yard. They showed me an impressive "portfolio" of their work. Having seen Snatch I didn't want to piss them off so told them I was skint.<br><br>
Found out later that they were becoming a serious problem. You pay them up front, they do a shit job and demand more cash to fix. You pay them more and they promptly piss off. Considering Norwegians are the most trusting and naive people on the planet, they probably made a fortune.<br><br>
Can't blame Tyson Fury if he's a little farked in the head.</p>
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<p>On a smaller scale that is happening even in Australia , they come out here , usually targeting the elderly , quite often offering to fix their roof , rip off as many as they can , piss off home with the cash , </p>
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<p>And people here dont know who they are and can be a bit more gullible </p>
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When I was a kid in the 70's pikey was generally used locally for travellers who had settled into housing. I grew up in Ashford and there was a big pikey settlement in nearby Hothfield. The pikeys who went to my school we're happy to be known by that name. How words change - friends were called "chavvies" (really), good was "cushtie" long before Only Fools and Horses, and not surprisingly they would often go "choring" (stealing) at the weekends. Usually with their parents.
<p>I know what a Pikey is but where did that term originate form? Short for Pikelet?.. (Obviously not)</p>
I'm not sure why people are so aghast at Fury.....he's not a rapist ( Tyson ) doesn't have mob ties ( Liston) isn't a woman basher ( Mayweather ) isn't a murderer ( Don King ).....he's just a quirky chap who says weird and offensive shit at the end of the day....
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<p>I know what a Pikey is but where did that term originate form? Short for Pikelet?.. (Obviously not)</p>
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<p>Pretty sure it came from Turnpike</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey'>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey</a></p>
<p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
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<p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>
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<p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
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<p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>
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<p>That's what happens when you have an alphabet soup of boxing titles. All of the different organisations compete against eachother. I assume the IBF had scheduled a challenge before the Klitschko/Fury fight. As I mentioned earlier, Kevin Barry predicted this.</p>
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<p>So Fury now loses his title because of going for a rematch with Klitschko rather than with the mandatory challenge</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606'>http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/35047606</a></p>
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<p>Crikey that's a messed up sport.</p>
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<p>I heard that mentioned straight after the fight. I'm pretty sure everyone knew it was possible when Fury signed a contract with a rematch clause. Any rematch would go against the IBF rules.</p>
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<p>So in this situation who currently holds the titles then? Do they go to the next challenger?</p>
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<p>Don't they usually have an vacant title and the mandatory challenger takes on the next in line?</p>
Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .
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<p>When I was a kid in the 70's pikey was generally used locally for travellers who had settled into housing. I grew up in Ashford and there was a big pikey settlement in nearby Hothfield. The pikeys who went to my school we're happy to be known by that name. How words change - friends were called "chavvies" (really), good was "cushtie" long before Only Fools and Horses, and not surprisingly they would often go "choring" (stealing) at the weekends. Usually with their parents.</p>
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<p>Choring. I haven't heard that for years.</p>
<p>Not sure why people are sympathising with Fury's upbringing and suggesting he doesn't know any better</p>
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<p>I'd suggest that the behaviour of the group he comes from KNOWS EXACTLY what acceptable and unacceptable behaviour is, thus they choose the effective option knowing full well about consequences and expectations</p>
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<p>Surely people can see he's on the wind up. (as if his opinion on society even matters)</p>
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<p>Is he actually any good? Just looks like a fat swinger to me (but he's got a title and millions and I've got sfa)</p>
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="546669" data-time="1449626785"><p>Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .</p></blockquote>Otherwise known as "pulling a floyd"
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<p>Well, he just beat Klitschko so he's obviously a lot more than just a fat swinger.</p>
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<p>Massive bellwhiff, mind.</p>
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<p>Yep, the proof is in the pudding I guess</p>
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<p>However watching past fights on youtube didn't look too flash or at all sophisticated in the ring - but I'm a layman</p>
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However watching past fights on youtube didn't look too flash or at all sophisticated in the ring - but I'm a layman</p></blockquote>Surely Klitschko didn't tank the fight to generate interest in the rematch?
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Klitchko pretty much took on all mandatory s for a decade , which I guess is why I have some respect for him .<br>
Yeah not too many great boxers in that list of guys he has beaten . , but that's not his fault . He can only beat what is there , and he cant be accused of dodging anyone , which is a bit rare these days .</p></blockquote>
Except for you know... Vitali. Hard to respect him as the best in the world when he wont even show he is the best in the family or better than the other preeminent boxer in his division at the time.<br><br>
Those two ran a cartel over the heavyweight division at the start of Wlad's title run with Viatali doing a lot of heavy lifting for him by knocking off opponents.
I couldn't give a monkeys what Tyson Fury's political and religious opinions are. They are a private matter for him and his family. If the media find his opinions offensive they shouldn't keep asking him or broadcasting them.<br><br>
But the idea that a guy who has just defeated a legend like Klitschko and become heavy-weight champion of the world, shouldn't be on a short list of the 12 best sports stars in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Fury isn't standing for political office or offering to bring up anyone else's children, his job is knocking 7 bells out of another guy in a boxing ring. Something he is very good at.<br><br>
It's not like a nation that got dumped out of the last Soccer, Cricket and Rugby world cups (even when they had home advantage) in the group stages, is so blessed with sporting process and success that they can turn their noses up at a talented athlete like Tyson Fury.
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But the idea that a guy who has just defeated a legend like Klitschko and become heavy-weight champion of the world, shouldn't be on a short list of the 12 best sports stars in the UK is utterly ridiculous. Fury isn't standing for political office or offering to bring up anyone else's children, his job is knocking 7 bells out of another guy in a boxing ring. Something he is very good at.<br>
It's not like a nation that got dumped out of the last Soccer, Cricket and Rugby world cups (even when they had home advantage) in the group stages, is so blessed with sporting process and success that they can turn their noses up at a talented athlete like Tyson Fury.</p></blockquote>
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Problem is they are not a private matter if he broadcasts them to the world during interviews. I don't care what he thinks either but I'd rather he kept it to himself. I don't expect him to be the brightest of buttons but surely even he knows people will find some of his views inflammatory and he should do his talking in the ring. He's mildly amusing when doing his slapstick pranks, maybe he should stick to that.
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<p>Problem is they are not a private matter if he broadcasts them to the world during interviews. I don't care what he thinks either but I'd rather he kept it to himself. I don't expect him to be the brightest of buttons but surely even he knows people will find some of his views inflammatory and he should do his talking in the ring. He's mildly amusing when doing his slapstick pranks, maybe he should stick to that.</p>
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<p>People said the same about Muhammad Ali at the time - particularly the Uncle Tom stuff.</p>
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<p>Fury is just playing the fight game. He is a poor man's Connor MacGregor (and far less self aware), but after the Klitchko's that is a huge improvement in the heavyweight division.</p>
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<p>Yes but we were living in very different times back then and yes he went too far sometimes but mostly Ali was very entertaining</p>
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<p>I find Fury to be (given the slim pickings of the times) a pretty entertaining heel. He is no Ric Flair though, more of a pikey Jake the Snake Roberts.</p>
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<p>If we are going to give guys like Pocock or Goodes a pass to throw their political opinions around (and applaud them and award them for it) I don't see why we should scold Fury. I don't agree with what he is saying (good heel) but I don't believe in censoring anyone short of sedition. This clown who reported him to police for hate speech? Next they will be demanding "safe spaces" at boxing events because people find the sport "triggering".</p>
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<p>Yes but we were living in very different times back then and yes he went too far sometimes but mostly Ali was very entertaining</p>
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<p>Yes we are, now people feel that they have to be offended by pretty much everything they read online or see on the TV. </p>
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<p>I agree with Sparky. He's obviously playing the heel a bit.</p>
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<p>I'm kind of happy that heavyweight boxing is back in the headlines.</p>