Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

kiwiinmelb

Bring on canelo triple g <br><br>
That's the one we all want

raznomore

<p>Khan will retire</p>

SammyC

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Agree.<br><br>
Great post fight interviews. I had my Mexican girlfriend translating :)<br><br>
literal translation of Canelo's response to the question of whether he will fight ggg this year?<br><br>
"Let's stop sucking each other's dicks and get it on."<br><br>
Also good to see khans camp saying canelo should stop with the catch weight bulshit

Was like he spent the first few rounds prodding the beast, until it stirred.

MiketheSnow

<p>Great tactical fight from Kahn, but what a finish.</p>

kiwiinmelb

<p>He did do well early , watched it a second time ,</p>
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<p>but you do get the feeling  with the benefit of hindsight, Canelo was setting him up , let him get his confidence up , his hands were starting to drop lower ,</p>
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<p>and Canelo  was just starting to make his move , the round before he dropped him was his best round </p>

<p>His head bounced thrice as he fell. Khan should have his head thoroughly checked. The problem is that brain damages are often seen years after the concussion. Khan fought well on that fight, though. I honestly had Khan winning in the early rounds.</p>

kiwiinmelb

Yeah he was winning but was set up and sucked in big time tactically so all that tends to fade . <br><br>
Canelo kept hitting him with a right body shot throughout and feinted to do it again , khans hands dropped to protect the body , and Canelo went upstairs instead

SammyC

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<p>Yeah he was winning but was set up and sucked in big time tactically so all that tends to fade .<br><br>
Canelo kept hitting him with a right body shot throughout and feinted to do it again , khans hands dropped to protect the body , and Canelo went upstairs instead</p>
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<p>he threw that short right hand so many times early on. Then when he knocked him out it was a little fake of the right and a big left hand to follow.</p>

scribe

For the UK guys, the Parker v Takam fight is been shown live on Skysports 3 at 1100 Sat 21. I guess proof that Parker's profile is on the rise over here.

kiwiinmelb

<p>Anyone thinking Takam isnt taking this seriously ? look at the condition he has arriived in </p>
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kiwiinmelb

<p>And anyone thinking Joseph isnt in a real fight , have a look at this , voted heavyweight fight of the year in 2014</p>
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JK

Should be a real fight alright. Amazingly TAB are still offering over $4 for a Takam win

taniwharugby

<p>is that realistic or just the fact Kiwis will go heavy on JP so TAB dont wanna expose themselves?</p>

MN5

<p>Sonny Bill would waste them both then go on to win Nascar, the PGA tour, the Tour de France and the Superbowl all within a year.</p>

kiwiinmelb

Yeah bets will be on the home boy with a NZ public , that will decide the odds , <br><br>
Those odds on takam are good odds for the neutral punter

raznomore

<p>I have had an uneasy feeling for a couple of weeks now. Want to be wrong but I think this one is going to end with JP looking up at the lights with his back on the canvas.</p>

kiwiinmelb

Yeah I'm nervous too , <br><br>
The footage online of takam hooking and uppercutting makes me feel uneasy too , just don't like the massive jump up in class between the fat cab drivers he has fought to takam .

raznomore

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<p>Meanwhile Fury has been busy making more friends<br><br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/36291579'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/36291579</a></p>
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<p>Yeah well if Trump can continue to run for president spewing all his hate I don't expect to see this PPV giant stripped of his titles. This thing called "money" will have too much of a say in both cases.</p>
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<p>He is entertaining, complete bigot, but an entertaining bigot.</p>

MN5

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<p>Yeah well if Trump can continue to run for president spewing all his hate I don't expect to see this PPV giant stripped of his titles. This thing called "money" will have too much of a say in both cases.</p>
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<p>He is entertaining, complete bigot, but an entertaining bigot.</p>
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<p>Wow, sportsperson expresses opinions that may differ from peoples view on what is the "norm", let's ban him.</p>
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<p>Stop the world, I WANNA GET OFF !!</p>
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<p>of course it's fine that a convicted rapist is allowed to fight after his release from prison and a convicted killer is allowed to promote......</p>

I found a link on YouTube - listened to him gibbering on about zionists owning all the banks and the media and that we were all being brainwashed by them while he was being open minded. Sounded a bit like Winger with a lobotomy.<br><br>
I really couldn't be bothered to watch any more. It's not his bigotry that annoys me, he just reminds me of the pub bore.<br><br>
Anyway roll on the fight, at least he's got me very interested in that.

MN5

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<p>I found a link on YouTube - listened to him gibbering on about zionists owning all the banks and the media and that we were all being brainwashed by them while he was being open minded. Sounded a bit like Winger with a lobotomy.<br><br>
I really couldn't be bothered to watch any more. It's not his bigotry that annoys me, he just reminds me of the pub bore.<br><br>
Anyway roll on the fight, at least he's got me very interested in that.</p>
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<p>As someone said previously he has his role and he's playing it to get attention for the fight which is the sort of carry on that has gone on since the fight game began. There's no "I'll take each opponent as he comes, full credit" type clichéd rugby shit so surprised this is getting the airtime that it is to be honest.</p>

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<p>Yeah bets will be on the home boy with a NZ public , that will decide the odds ,<br><br>
Those odds on takam are good odds for the neutral punter</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80161215/bookmakers-agree-its-jospeh-parker-to-beat-carlos-takam-by-knockout'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80161215/bookmakers-agree-its-jospeh-parker-to-beat-carlos-takam-by-knockout</a></p>
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<p>Stuff saying the odds are similar all over the world - which they need to be to avoid potential arbitrage.</p>

kiwiinmelb

Ok , most experts are picking Joseph , <br><br>
But there is an element of the Unknown , it's all based on potential rather than track record .<br><br>
We find out a lot more about him sat night .

MN5

<p>Every single fight that Parker has is his "Toughest fight yet".....the hype gets pretty obnoxious quickly, that American whose name I've already forgotten was supposed to be a much better challenge than he ultimately was. Takam has a great record and looks in top shape but how many "names" has he beaten ?</p>

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<p>Every single fight that Parker has is his "Toughest fight yet".....the hype gets pretty obnoxious quickly, that American whose name I've already forgotten was supposed to be a much better challenge than he ultimately was. Takam has a great record and looks in top shape but how many "names" has he beaten ?</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://boxrec.com/boxer/355273'>http://boxrec.com/boxer/355273</a></p>
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<p>Nascimento and Botha are overlap with Baby Joseph. Takim beat Nascimento in fewer rounds than JP, but took much longer to put away Botha.</p>
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<p>He lost to Povetkin, who is currently ranked 3rd in the world (behind Fury and Vlad). </p>
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<p>Perez is ranked 22, Thompson 28 - Takim himself is 26 and Joseph is 12.</p>
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<p>Not sure what the  highest ranking of anyone has been when JP actually fought him, but no-one he's fought in recent times is currently ranked in the top 50. I think this is his toughest fight to date, but I think he'll win (and win early - I'm saying 2nd round - Joseph to be too young and too fast) - the bookies tell me that and I think Duco would have been pretty careful to choose someone who suits Joseph.</p>

No Quarter

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<p>Every single fight that Parker has is his "Toughest fight yet".....the hype gets pretty obnoxious quickly, that American whose name I've already forgotten was supposed to be a much better challenge than he ultimately was. Takam has a great record and looks in top shape but how many "names" has he beaten ?</p>
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<p>But it's true, every fight Parker has is his "toughest fight yet". That's how it works, he starts at the bottom and works his way up.</p>

MN5

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<p>But it's true, every fight Parker has is his "toughest fight yet". That's how it works, he starts at the bottom and works his way up.</p>
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<p>Aw yeah, I get that, just the hype machine would have you believe each new guy is some hybrid of Ali/Tyson that's all.</p>

No Quarter

Yep, your point about the hype still stands.

MN5

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<p>Yep, your point about the hype still stands.</p>
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<p>I could be wrong but I don't remember the same level when Tua was in the same position but nowadays it's rife down to the "this guy got in a fight with a bouncer once, he could really trouble SBW" chumps who took on everyones favourite dual code sportsman.</p>

taniwharugby

<p>Apparently Takam challenged JP twice before (last year?) and they knocked him back as they didn't think he was ready...Barry was on the radio this morning, didn't sound as confident as you expect from boxing</p>

MN5

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<p>Apparently Takam challenged JP twice before (last year?) and they knocked him back as they didn't think he was ready...Barry was on the radio this morning, didn't sound as confident as you expect from boxing</p>
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<p>Not sure what to make of Barry. I guess it depends whether or not you empathise with Tua or not. Still he beat Evander Holyfield as an amateur back in the day so knows his shit.....</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8px;">( even though the "beating" involved Holyfield knocking him down after the bell and being disqualified ) </span></p>

Crucial

<p>Everyone talking about the JP hype, but checking out that BoxRec site I think there is a fair bit of hype on Takam as well.  His last bout went the distance against a 42 year old journeyman who has never fought anyone of note in 70 match ups.</p>
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<p>At least he looks in good condition and here to win, so the fight should be a good challenge but maybe there is a good reason why the experts are picking JP.</p>

SammyC

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<p>Not sure what to make of Barry. I guess it depends whether or not you empathise with Tua or not. Still he beat Evander Holyfield as an amateur back in the day so knows his shit.....</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8px;">( even though the "beating" involved Holyfield knocking him down after the bell and being disqualified ) </span></p>
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<p>The Barry bros have done great things for local up and coming amateurs for years down here.</p>
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<p>That's hardly the extent of his legacy.</p>

MN5

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<p>The Barry bros have done great things for local up and coming amateurs for years down here.</p>
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<p>That's hardly the extent of his legacy.</p>
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<p>No doubt. For a kiwi to compete against someone like Holyfield is a hell of an achievement but the Tua fallout upset quite a few people.</p>

SammyC

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<p>No doubt. For a kiwi to compete against someone like Holyfield is a hell of an achievement but the Tua fallout upset quite a few people.</p>
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<p>It did, and to be honest I don't know what happened there.</p>
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<p>My point was that Barry has lived and breathed boxing like very few do in this country.</p>
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<p>He's guided countless amateur fighters to national championships and beyond.</p>
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<p>He also did great things while managing/ training Maselino Masoe and Shumernov. (both world champions)</p>
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<p>If there is an up and coming fighter anywhere in the south, their first point of call would be the Barry Brothers gym.</p>