<p>In other news, the sky is blue.</p>
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Racing (Carter, Masoe, Rokocoko) scrape through against Toulon (Nonu, Taylor) in the champions cup qf.
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<p>How's Joe R looking these days Bones ? I remember the fern bagging him for being too bulky and slow, is this still the case ?</p>
<p>Doesn't look slow, but seems the only thing he knows how to do is crash it up - which he actually does bloody well. Ploughed Nonu backwards with a good run at one stage.</p>
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<p>Doesn't look slow, but seems the only thing he knows how to do is crash it up - which he actually does bloody well. Ploughed Nonu backwards with a good run at one stage.</p>
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<p>He spent most of the game playing centre too. He's basically been used as a wing / centre all year. Looks very solid, but not very flashy or quick.</p>
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<p>Wasps got through too after Chales Piatau scored in the corner & Jimmy Gopeth cooly slotted from the touch line. Wasps backline was Gopeth (10), S Piatau (13), C Piatau (15) Halai (14)</p>
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<p>And the Aaron Mauger coached Liecester got thru. Under Mauger they have been scoring shitloads, which has made up for them conceding shitloads... </p>
<p>Infamous Stephen Jones of the Times said the Wasps games was "one of the greatest club games ever played. Like Super Rugby with tackling".</p>
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<p>The irony was ALL of Wasps points came from Kiwis (Gopperth, Piutau, Halai).</p>
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<p>Tubby Thomas got 2 tries for Exeter.</p>
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<p>Infamous Stephen Jones of the Times said the Wasps games was "one of the greatest club games ever played. Like Super Rugby with tackling".</p>
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<p>The irony was ALL of Wasps points came from Kiwis (Gopperth, Piutau, Halai).</p>
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<p>Tubby Thomas got 2 tries for Exeter.</p>
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<p>Well, the walrus is a prick.</p>
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<p>It was a great game but one of the greatest? Not so sure about that. As to the Super Rugby troll - sort of to be expected. Click-bait.</p>
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<p>Gopperth played well and nailing that last kick took some nuts. Thomas the Tank has been a revelation since joining Exeter. Last season he was the premiership top try scorer and he is well on the way again this year despite not being a regular starter for the first half of the season. He is no athlete that's for sure but has a deceptive turn of pace and such rugby nous that he is always popping up in just the right place. Seems like a great bloke too.</p>
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<p>Gutted to see Exeter lose like that though.</p>
<p>I actually think it's a compliment. He's basically admitting that Super Rugby is a far superior product, but perhaps the defense needs improvement.</p>
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The irony was ALL of Wasps points came from Kiwis (Gopperth, Piutau, Halai).<br>
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Good to see the mad Welsh bastard hasn't lost his touch. I was getting worried about him.
<p>Fritz Lee has re-signed with Top14 leaders Clermont for two more seasons (until 2019).</p>
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<p>I never really rated him when he was playing in NZ, but he has been playing really well in France.</p>
<p>Christian Wade equalled the league record of six tries in a game as Wasps beat Worcester 54 - 35 yesterday in the AP. Remains to be seen whether Eddie Jones fancies giving him a go at some point.</p>
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<p>Tom Coventry's London Irish have a crunch match against Newcastle today. Lose and they are almost certainly relegated to the Championship.</p>
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<p>Christian Wade equalled the league record of six tries in a game as Wasps beat Worcester 54 - 35 yesterday in the AP. Remains to be seen whether Eddie Jones fancies giving him a go at some point.</p>
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<p>Tom Coventry's London Irish have a crunch match against Newcastle today. Lose and they are almost certainly relegated to the Championship.</p>
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<p>They've lost and they're gooone.</p>
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If Jones doesnt fancy Wade for Oz, I'd love to see him in the Olympic sevens
<p>Write up re Mauger ahead of Racing v Leicester</p>
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<p><em><strong>Savouring southern comfort</strong></em></p>
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<p>Leicester's European Champions Cup semi-final with Racing 92 in Nottingham on Sunday may be an Anglo-French affair but it is laced with a significant southern hemisphere twist. The two three-quarter lines alone promise to take in three of the four Rugby Championship countries and all three of the Pacific Nations.</p>
<p>It is not just clubs who quaff southern comfort in the professional age: three of the four home unions are coached by New Zealanders while England are coached by an Australian. It has acted, in the English game's case at least, as an antidote to the focus on defence ushered in when recruiting coaches from rugby league became vogue.</p>
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<p>"The southern hemisphere influence has been positive in England," said the Leicester three-quarter Peter Betham, an Australian international who was born in New Zealand to Samoan parents. "It has had a big impact on the skill levels of forwards and you are seeing more interlinking between backs and forwards. The result has been more expansive play and tries in the Premiership despite the wet winter. The weather has not dictated too much what happens on the field and that has been consistently the case with the All Blacks. Wasps, Exeter, Harlequins and Sale, among others, all play a wide game in the wet and that is what we have been doing at Leicester." </p>
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<p>Leicester had the poorest try-scoring record in the Premiership last season after hapless London Welsh, failing to score one in seven of their Premiership matches; two campaigns earlier, "penalty try" at one stage threatened to be their top scorer. They turned to the former New Zealand centre Aaron Mauger, who finished his playing career at Welford Road, who was last summer appointed the head coach on a three-year contract. This was a club that had long embodies the virtues of English rugby, strong set-pieces, strong defence and an accurate kicking game, strangling opponents rather than stretching them.</p>
<p>That has changed and if Leicester's results this season have been those of a team in a state of evolution, they are now as dangerous in possession five metres from their own line as well as from the opposition's. Mauger is converting the England centre Manu Tuilagi from an outside-centre to a 12 and he has moved Betham, who before arriving at the club had never started a professional game in the midfield, from the wing to 13.</p>
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<p>"I joined Leicester because I was looking to go offshore to travel and gain some experience and also because Aaron Mauger was going to be at the club," said the 27-year old Betham, who has won two caps for Australia. "It offered the chance to play alongside great players like Manu and while it was a hard decision to move away from your family, which is important when you come from a Pacific Island background, and give up the chance of playing for Australia again, I have no regrets about coming here and hope to stay with the club for a good few more years.</p>
<p>"Aaron gets us to back our ability, play what is in front of us and apply pressure when we need to," said Betham. "Being able to think freely is what it is all about. I do not think we have hit top gear yet: there is a lot more to come as individuals, as a team and a back division. We are only coming to grips with our combinations, not having played the same backline consistently in the past. You can see Aaron's impact in Freddie Burns who has really developed over the season at outside-half, seeing opportunities and backing himself, but kicking when he needs to."</p>
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<p>Betham arrived as a wing with a reputation for scoring tries but found himself playing in the centre in Leicester's first game of the season: 14 of his 20 starts have come in the midfield and all four appearances from the bench. He first partnered Tuilagi last month and the pair have appeared together four times with the Tigers winning on each occasion.</p>
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<p>"Aaron wanted me to get my hands on the ball earlier and picked me in the centre," said Betham. "I had never played there for a full game professionally and, excited as I was about seeing more of the ball, I was a bit anxious defensively; as a wing, you only make one or two tackles a game and now I am making 12 or more. Outside-centre is a very hard position to defend but I have got used to it.</p>
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<p>"Manu and I chop and change; I will be at 12 at times and he will be at 13. With England it is about finding a 13 to complement Manu. He is more than a big bloke; there are a number of subtleties to his game you have not seen. He has a very good grubber and long ball and all these things will come in time the more he plays at 12.</p>
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<p>"Aaron takes the centres under his wing a lot and there are a number of skills sessions we do personally. Manu's skill set will grow and I dread to find out how good he will become. We do the sessions with Aaron at the end of training. He takes Manu and me aside and drills into us the subtleties to 12 and 13 and they become second nature. He has focus points for us during the week, 20 minutes at a time on and off during the week and he makes sure we do them in the team sessions."</p>
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<p>Racing have their own southern hemisphere influence through Joe Rokocoko and Juan Imhoff on the wings, the centre Casey Laulala and the New Zealand outside-half Dan Carter, a former Super rugby and international team-mate of Mauger's. "They have a lot of firepower behind," said Betham. "You have to keep one eye on Carter and the other on the rest of them. Carter was a good general against Toulon [in the quarter-final] in the way he directed Racing. He puts his teams in the right areas at the right times and it seems like he has so much time on his hands when other 10s probably get frazzled and blitzed. He is very calm in the moment."</p>
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<p>Betham will return to Australia for a holiday in the summer, planning to take in England's tour there. "I would love Australia to get the wins but the Leicester guys to do well," he said. "Ben Youngs and Danny Care are thriving under Eddie Jones and what you are seeing with England now is that the numbers on the backs of the players do not define how they play. They will be a dangerous team and it should be a good series, interesting to see where each team is at. If Manu gets into the team he will get me a ticket, but I have told him not to think about me wearing any white because that will not happen.</p>
<p>"Last year's World Cup reflected rugby in the two hemispheres, but England's game has grown since then. Eddie Jones has done pretty well: Manu talks about him a lot, positively. He is relaxed and calm as a coach and gives players belief. They are less rigid in the way they play the game: the likes of Anthony Watson and Jack Nowell were never really unleashed in the World Cup, but they can become dominant in world rugby. The southern hemisphere influence has been good for English rugby."</p>
<p>Stay classy, Joe:</p>
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<p>I'd read about that Nick but hadn't seen the footage. I was assuming it would be much worse. A bit of nothing thing really in terms of injury potential but just plain dumb, especially for someone just coming off a 2 match ban. I wouldn't be surprised to see him cited and cop a further sanction and to be honest, he'd deserve it. Utter cock.</p>
Cato - yeah it's about as innocuous as a kick to the head gets. But it's still obviously intent to kick the head and he should fry.
@gollum: great article. The transformation of Leicester's backline under Mauger has been striking and it's good to hear he's actively trying to develop Tuilagi's skills to see him play 12 long-term.<br><br>
Having a pacy outside-break merchant at 13 in Betham is similar to what he'll have with England in Joseph/Daly, so hopefully it'll end with Manu taking the England 12 shirt.<br><br>
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<p>Funny isn't it Simon? Not long ago we were looking pretty bereft of options at 13 (to an extent) and 12 (definitely) and now our options seem an embarrassment of riches. I quite like the sound of Tuilagi at 12 with a pacey 13 but I'd also like to see how Slade goes at 12 - sort of like the second playmaker option that has been Farrell but with better distribution and more of a running threat.</p>
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<p>Some way away from a choice of Barrit and Burgess.</p>
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<p>Having a pacy outside-break merchant at 13 in Betham is similar to what he'll have with England in Joseph/Daly, so hopefully it'll end with Manu taking the England 12 shirt.</p>
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<p>Speaking of Betham - I saw someone saying words to the effect of English club scene being better than Super Rugby because he was finally allowed to shine at his preferred position.</p>
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<p>Completely ignoring the fact he'd never played there at pro level, while at the Waratahs he had a bloke by the name of Ashley-Cooper stuck in the 13 shirt ahead of him :think:</p>
<p>Yeah, that would be at odds to what Betham said himself. Lazy journalism if it was a journo that said it.</p>
Hmmmm. Leicester's Aaron Mauger inspired back play had more handling errors than there are Jones' in a Welsh rugby team. Out of Europe without really firing a shot.
<p>Racing held the upper hand all the way through. The score did not reflect how much control Racing had. Carter had a very good defensive shift as well as controlling the game well. Leicester were uncommonly shite.</p>
<p>Aaand Marler has been cited. No surprise in that decision. It will be interesting to see what defence is presented and also how the judiciary hand down any sanction.</p>
<div>Martin Castrogiovanni, the Italy prop, has been suspended by Racing 92 after he was photographed partying with Paris Saint-Germain players in Las Vegas.</div>
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<div>But while Racing were at Nottinghamâ€s City Ground beating Leicester Tigers 19-16 to reach their first ever European Champions Cup final on Sunday, Castrogiovanni was in Las Vegas with PSG players celebrating their 2-1 French League Cup victory over Lille on Saturday.</div>
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<div>Martin Castrogiovanni, the Italy prop, has been suspended by Racing 92 after he was photographed partying with Paris Saint-Germain players in Las Vegas.</div>
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<div>The 34-year-old had told Racing, the French Top 14 side, that he could not play in Sundayâ€s Champions Cup semi-final with Leicester because he had to attend to a family matter in Argentina.</div>
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<div>But while Racing were at Nottinghamâ€s City Ground beating Leicester Tigers 19-16 to reach their first ever European Champions Cup final on Sunday, Castrogiovanni was in Las Vegas with PSG players celebrating their 2-1 French League Cup victory over Lille on Saturday.</div>
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<p>What is that all about did he not want to play against his old team? Very Strange Racing have suspended him pending legal action. So he is GOOOOOOOOOOOOONE. Also they signed Nakarawa today from Glasgow.</p>
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<p>I'm a bit late but...</p>
<p>I was in Paris that weekend and tried to buy some tickets but Racing's home ground only has a capacity of 14K. It was always going to sell out for an all-French QF. I ended up watching the game on TV in my hotel room. If I had been at the game it would have been for the occasion not the quality of rugby on display.</p>
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<p>I'm a bit late but...</p>
<p>I was in Paris that weekend and tried to buy some tickets but Racing's home ground only has a capacity of 14K. It was always going to sell out for an all-French QF. I ended up watching the game on TV in my hotel room. If I had been at the game it would have been for the occasion not the quality of rugby on display.</p>
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<p>To be honest their stadium has great atmosphere but is in the middle of nowhere. With nothing around it. </p>
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<p>They are having a new one built at the moment not sure when its finished.</p>
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<p>An update from the PRO 12 after a bit of an absence by me. Regular season ended yesterday with playoffs to come in the next 3 weeks.<br>
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Connacht, coached by Pat Lam for last three years, have finally come good, finishing top on level points with Leinster, but just pipped at the post to first place by with Leinster having one more win than them. Connacht have a home semi-final against Glasgow. Leinster host Ulster in the other. <br>
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At tonight's PRO 12 awards, Lam and his team fairly swept the boards in the PRO12 Dream Team awards. A good few of the winners are non-internationals. And, unsurprisingly, a good few from south of the equator.<br>
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15 Isa Nacewa (Leinster) capt.<br>
14 Matt Healy (Connacht)<br>
13 Bundee Aki (Connacht)<br>
12 Ben Te'o (Leinster<br>
11 Craig Gilroy (Ulster); <br>
10 Sam Davies (Ospreys), <br>
9 Kieran Marmion (Connacht); <br>
1 Dennis Buckley (Connacht), <br>
2 Tom McCartney (Connacht), <br>
3 Finlay Bealham (Connacht);<br>
4 Leone Nakarawa (Glasgow),<br>
5 Ultan Dillane (Connacht)<br>
6 CJ Stander (Munster),<br>
7 Josh van der Flier (Leinster),<br>
8 Cornell du Preez (Edinburgh)<br><br>
Player's Player of the Season Award: Bundee Aki (Connacht)<br>
Coach of the Season: Pat Lam (Connacht)<br>
Young Player of the Season: Sam Davies (Ospreys)<br>
Try of the Season: Tommy Seymour (Glasgow)</p>
<p>Yeah, 4 Kiwis there (Nacewa, Aki, Teo, McCartney). Actually, I'm a but surprised by Nacewa, didn't think his form has been anything special. Should be a decent set of play-offs: can Leinster get revenge at home after Ulster's paddling a couple of weeks back, can Connacht do a repeat over Glasgow. I'm predicting a Leinster vs Glasgow final.</p>
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<p>Yeah, 4 Kiwis there (Nacewa, Aki, Teo, McCartney). Actually, I'm a but surprised by Nacewa, didn't think his form has been anything special. Should be a decent set of play-offs: can Leinster get revenge at home after Ulster's paddling a couple of weeks back, can Connacht do a repeat over Glasgow. I'm predicting a Leinster vs Glasgow final.</p>
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<p>Five Kiwis, if you count Lam, BT.</p>
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<p>Was surprised at Nacewa too. But which other full backs have played enough to merit inclusion - Hogg didn't play enough league games to meet criteria? </p>
<p><span style="font-size:14px;">Pretty sus<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">picious play from Ben Botica in the <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);">Challenge Cup final.</span></span></span></p>
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<p style="font-size:15.6px;font-family:Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);">Oâ€Shea consoled the New Zealand native on the pitch afterwards, <strong>who is also, coincidentally, leaving the club. He joins Montpellier.</strong></p>
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<p>Dan Carter's , Joe Roks and Chris Masoe's Racing 92 taking on Saracens in the European Champions Cup Final if anybody else is watching.</p>
<p>Currently 3-6 Saracens after 26 mins. Yawn.</p>
<p>Game is several levels below Super Rugby, in all aspects - pace, handling, skills, vision and creativity. So slow. arrgh.</p>
