All Blacks vs Springboks I

Bones

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

Maybe at fat club?

Chris

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

Maybe at fat club?

I am starting to think he is on a diet and thinking straight.
He is getting more right than I thought he would ( That hurts saying that,I feel dirty.)

Bones

Yeah can't be upset with the team.

Not sold on Jordan yet, his "issues" are the kind that could really be exposed by the Bokke, so hopefully his improvement arc continues and they're almost gone.

Patty T is usually decent off the bench - if possible I'd throw a handy sum on him to steal the first lineout after he comes on.

Hope Ofa is back up to speed after last week. Deadly front row change.

Kiwiwomble

@bones im hoping hes one of those players that level up when playing the best

Crazy Horse

On the subject of Jordan, it's been good to see him improving his passing game. Something he hasn't shown too much of at the Crusaders so far. Hats off to the coaching team for that.

MN5

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

Maybe at fat club?

Careful. Some ferners get upset with constant Fozzie fat jokes. Not me though, keep em coming !

Bovidae

@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

And didn't think Pat T had earned a place. Hopefully it motivates him because we have a high energy bench that could run boks off their feet.

Being an impact sub off the bench is his best role. High energy for 20 mins.

KiwiMurph

Interesting comments by Foz about the bench and picking those who had played the Boks before.

Billy Tell

If this was 2020...

  1. Joe Moody (52)
  2. Codie Taylor (62)
  3. Nepo Laulala (35)
  4. Brodie Retallick (87)
  5. Scott Barrett (46)
  6. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
  7. Akira Ioane (8)
  8. Luke Jacobson (9)
  9. TJ Perenara (73)
  10. Beauden Barrett (96)
  11. Will Jordan (8)
  12. Rieko Ioane (42)
  13. David Havili (9)
  14. Jordie Barrett (30)
  15. George Bridge (15)
MN5

@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

If this was 2020...

  1. Joe Moody (52)
  2. Codie Taylor (62)
  3. Nepo Laulala (35)
  4. Brodie Retallick (87)
  5. Scott Barrett (46)
  6. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
  7. Akira Ioane (8)
  8. Luke Jacobson (9)
  9. TJ Perenara (73)
  10. Beauden Barrett (96)
  11. Will Jordan (8)
  12. Rieko Ioane (42)
  13. David Havili (9)
  14. Jordie Barrett (30)
  15. George Bridge (15)

Bridge getting to inject the playmaking skills from the back…..I like it.

nostrildamus

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

SA freely pick from anywhere

And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

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"Willie le Roux is a very good player"

“Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

oh not arguing with that, I just couldn't find Mains saying that, he blamed the centre, props..

MN5

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting 😬

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

nostrildamus

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

3 Barretts starting.

Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting 😬

I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..

Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.

You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!

Bones

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

Nepia

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

I would have thought Goldie was closer to Cowan and Marshall than DMac, similar size, chunky rear, all hideously blonde. DMac is skinnier but also has the blonde.

MN5

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

A mate of mine went out with someone from down south who is a distant cousin with both on different sides of the family. Making jokes like you did is probably a big factor in them breaking up like they did.

MN5

@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

I would have thought Goldie was closer to Cowan and Marshall than DMac, similar size, chunky rear, all hideously blonde. DMac is skinnier but also has the blonde.

DMac must be related to Zinny for obvious reasons.

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

I'm underwhelmed a bit but I don't know what I would change with no ALB. Can't argue with forwards though.

Whilst still a work in progress, Ioane is the second best centre in the squad, so he has to play there.

I would’ve gone for Reece on the wing, but can’t complain about the other two selected.

Will be interesting if one of our wingers has to go off, will they put Tups on and move Ioane or do they put DMac on and move Jordie. If it’s early in the game I reckon the latter because of experience.

Flakes did well against Boks when Hodge came on by having big boot to drive them back when kicking for territory.

So Jordie for me to stay at 15. I’d bring on Quinn.

Bones

@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

I would have thought Goldie was closer to Cowan and Marshall than DMac, similar size, chunky rear, all hideously blonde. DMac is skinnier but also has the blonde.

Same bonce.

Have to admit, something I've never ever thought upon seeing Goldie/Marshall/Cowan is "check the toilet on that". But hey, different strokes.

MN5

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm not convinced Marshall and Cowan aren't brothers. Probably another brother in DMac too. Not Mils or Goldie though, think that's obvious.

I would have thought Goldie was closer to Cowan and Marshall than DMac, similar size, chunky rear, all hideously blonde. DMac is skinnier but also has the blonde.

Same bonce.

Have to admit, something I've never ever thought upon seeing Goldie/Marshall/Cowan is "check the toilet on that". But hey, different strokes.

To continue my story from my previous post…..not related to Jeff Wilson who was clearly from a more skilled, less aggressive, less bogan narrow gene pool down south.

Has Jimmy Cowan ever considered commentating ?

@jc said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm amazed to find that Scott Barrett has nearly 50 tests under his belt. And we still think of him as the journeyman.

For me this year he’s come of age at international level.

Bones

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@jc said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm amazed to find that Scott Barrett has nearly 50 tests under his belt. And we still think of him as the journeyman.

For me this year he’s come of age at international level.

Yep he's the lock we hoped Tulip would become (still rides a little too close to the card line but getting there).

taniwharugby

@nostrildamus well @mn5 doesn't like the fact I dislike his dad and the utter tripe he writes, so posts links hoping I'll throw him a click.

Pretty happy with this team, considering the injuries.
So Big Karl has now leapfrogged Bower at LHP. This was a tight contest between the two, I guess.

Bones

@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Pretty happy with this team, considering the injuries.
So Big Karl has now leapfrogged Bower at LHP. This was a tight contest between the two, I guess.

Loose actually 😬

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Interesting comments by Foz about the bench and picking those who had played the Boks before.

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Despite his half lidded eyes makin ghim look pissed, that was the most concise and articulate interview I've heard from him

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

SA freely pick from anywhere

And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

Was

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Is.

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"Willie le Roux is a very good player"

“Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

oh not arguing with that, I just couldn't find Mains saying that, he blamed the centre, props..

I'm missing your point, he said the Le Roux is not a problem as he is a very good player. Which is utter rubbish, he was def a problem versus the Wallabies - he was responsible for a lot of the stiffled attack

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Crucial

Just watching the last game again and it occurred to me that this squad really doesn’t have much in the way of filler. Just about everyone is either performing or has done so.
There are some obvious rankings among players but even those at third rank are performing well.
Credit is due to the coaching staff and team leaders for what they have created as far as a squad and contest for spots.
We have a hooker that wasn’t even in the proper squad but is now pushing the top spot IMO.
Lomax is looking like he has found his feet. Sotutu has gone from being very average in NPC to playing well.
Even with a lack of play guys are coming in from the training paddock in form.
Whether the tactics etc end up being right is still to be seen but maybe Foster and co. Are doing some stuff right?

booboo

@jc said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm amazed to find that Scott Barrett has nearly 50 tests under his belt. And we still think of him as the journeyman.

Yeah that's fair. He's moved past rookie, or apprentice if we're to continue the metaphor, and not progressing to master yet.

booboo

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack.

What?

We're NZ. Bokke, Poms, Lions have bigger forward packs by definition.

Ad an aside, has anyone got size, height, weight stats for us so I don't have to look up myself?