NRL 2022

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

in lighter news TMM becomes a warrior next year...signed

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

Fair result.

The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

Yep this is clearly an issue that no one has an answer to yet, especially when teams with wrestling coaches invent new ways of taking someone down

@bayimports said in NRL 2022:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

read this shit

"We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.

"Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.

"There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."

NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.

This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

@bayimports said in NRL 2022:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

Fair result.

The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

Yep this is clearly an issue that no one has an answer to yet, especially when teams with wrestling coaches invent new ways of taking someone down

I found it quite sickening to watch. It wasn’t a play to deliberately hurt (like NAS and JWH), but it has always been a very high risk play. No doubt it’s coached and practiced, but it wouldn’t be practiced with the force and scenario like it played out.

"There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."

Absolutely laughable.

@mariner4life yep its complete bollocks and I also agree he jumped and he didn't miss either...and to top things off this bit

NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department. >>

So I will stand here and defend it, but you cant blame me..!!

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

@bayimports said in NRL 2022:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

read this shit

"We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.

"Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.

"There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."

NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.

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This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to deny what everyone can see. It's as if the judiciary forgets the rest of us have eyes.

In rugby that act would have him rubbed out for a month or more. Well, until SANZAAR stepped in...

I’m not a big fan, but I thought Kent’s rant on NRL 360 last night on the NAS incident was very good.

I liked Luke Paton as a player but that was a disgraceful readout of the situation and justification

For those who were wondering, I think this is the 'tackle' (assault) in question. That's fucking grubby:

That's both funny and disturbingly disgusting at the same time. Doesn't matter what the player did, A coach shouldn't say shit like that...

I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

Hardly the good guys after doing that. Did you watch at all?

@ARHS said in NRL 2022:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

Hardly the good guys after doing that. Did you watch at all?

Yep. Hardly the worst I have seen even this weekend

But only one guy got called a weak gutted dog because he made someone's son cry in under 12s a decade ago

@Mackerzzzz said in NRL 2022:

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That's both funny and disturbingly disgusting at the same time. Doesn't matter what the player did, A coach shouldn't say shit like that...

Whitehead looked pretty stunned sitting next to Stuart when he unleashed.

A swift apology has already come and we’ll see if the NRL do anything. It’s pretty dumb by Stuart.

Penrith breaking Ricky's mind probably wraps up top spot for the year.

Cowboys keep getting it done and are now pretty much home for top 4

Cronulla made hard work of the super limited Dragons but should be top 4 as well.

Melbourne beating the Titans changes nothing

Good Parramatta can win the comp. Bad Parramatta will go straight out. Which one turns up?

No one wants to play the Bunnies. Latrell Mitchell might be the best player in the comp.

Brisbane suddenly look shaky after two bad losses.

The Warriors are just so fucking bad it's actually hard to put in to words. The worst for-and-against in a competition that includes the Tigers and the Titans. Their attack fucking sucks. Their defense has no heart. They quit very early on the weekend.
I am not sad to see Walsh go, he's not very good, and can't defend for toffee. I'll take TMM over him all day at the moment. But the roster sucks across the board. And either Jones can't coach for shit either, or the players have no ability, because i see no difference to when Brown was there. Same pattern of play. Same lack of effort. Massive few years of building ahead.

@mariner4life I actually thought the warriors were improving in the short period under Payten. He wasn't so fussed about the attack, but punished them when they got the defence wrong. So we were still losing, but it looked like they were not giving up. I suspect he knew that the attack would come once he sorted out their attitude. That has all gone.

The team is already under the mindset that the season is over and are playing like it. I don't think the roster is a complete shambles, but we do not have rockstars throughout the spine and SJ has been one of the worst HB's in the comp.

But tough and smart decisions next year need to be made, don't let guys go without getting cash for them, but be ruthless about what is best for the club, none of that is happening

Stacy is not the answer, he has admitted he is more comfortable as an assistant and it shows. I just hope Andrew Webster gets a chance to show what he can do without the owner getting in his way

As for Ricky, I cant see how the NRL can protect him this time..even after the belated apology.. will be interesting to see "if" anything happens

@bayimports i reckon you have two options if you are at the bottom

Focus on defense, keep the score low, set effort standards, and build off that

or

focus on your attack. score points. stress the opposition, and build the defense later. Neither is wrong

Warriors can't attack and won't defend.

I watched Trindall play for teh Sharks on Saturday, he had a whale of a game. He's their backup half, nothing more. Find those guys, young, bit of spark, want to play 80 minutes every week.
Stop this circle of failure that involves buying players that the other shit teams don't want, or old guys looking for a homecoming and a pay packet.

I read a great article the other day that summed it up. In club land you are either building a team to contend for a premiership; contending for a premiership; or sliding down after your window shut.
The warriors right now are none of those things. There was no window. we are not in contention. And the roster is chock full of guys who will not be in our next contending side. This is where you start your decision making.

If the Warriors are going to lose they might as well lose with a Kiwi roster and develop local depth. No marquee Aussie will come to NZ so why bother signing average players.