Origin 2022

@ACT-Crusader said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since

most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.

There are still a couple of top draw kiwis, but there aren't a lot, especially in the main positions.

The Kiwis have barely an NRL level quality spine let alone one that can compete with the best of the best from OZ.

although we do have a good hooker who can play prop ha ha.... and I am not talking about Jazz

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life maybe we were before our the emergence of Tonga as a league team but not since

most especially once Tonga and even Samoa became viable options, all those "kiwis" have chosen elsewhere.

And with so many Tongans and Samoans being brought up in Australia, those two teams are only going to get stronger.

The pool of islander players in Australia is pretty impressive - even if the Kangaroos nab a few of them, there's still so much talent left over for the islands.

Ya bloody pessimists. I'm always confident ... for the first 5 minutes at least.

Ah well, enjoy your Aussie lovefest tonight - I might watch the highlights over breakfast on that dud Kayo app so I can rejoin the thread tomorrow and pretend to have a clue what I'm talking about.

8.12

Still no kick off

@mariner4life Australia needs to have a national conversation about starting footy games on time.

The ball is in play so much more in League.

How good would Sotutu be in the NRL.

No time to post from your phone.

Game needs some proper biff though.

Well taken try, but goal line defence is weak by union standards. Not surprising given how much quicker this game is - players must be quite a bit smaller.

Game is way faster, but quite a lot less physical. Hits on defence aren't impressive. Kicking game is relatively poor too.

Overall, very repetitive and becomes boring pretty quickly.

Handling was very good, very few offloads though.

Jack's on 1 Tonight

Why was that try overruled?

@antipodean said in Origin 2022:

Why was that try overruled?

Obstruction

Origin is no longer hard, it's fast. The pace of the game is insane

DCE still sucks.
Newbies Carrigan and Cotter are killing it. Grant adding heaps from dummy half

But NSW look the better side so far. On a different night they have 3 tries. Qld can't keep giving them field position

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

Origin is no longer hard, it's fast.

The game is incredibly fast. The collisions are lame, there are few offloads, and it seems extremely risk averse though. Boring.

How did Phil Gould go ?

@Tim too quick for hits

Saw.two decent ones all half.

It's all very predictable.

4x one out hit ups
1x 'backline move'
kick

Repeat

I can see why Razor Robertson is a firm admirer of Munster

@Gunner said in Origin 2022:

It's all very predictable.

4x one out hit ups
1x 'backline move'
kick

Repeat

Just as I say that, Queensland start mixing it up, a try off a scrum, a few offloads and a wee bit of excitement....

Haha a tip tackle from one of the Blues, dumps the guy on his shoulder/head.
On report only, and a commentators call 'that's origin at it's finest'

Fuck me.

That's a red card all day every day in rugby - and there wouldn't even be any debate about it.

Nice distribution from Ponga

God these guys talk a lot of shit

These league guys have got some serious skill under the high ball.

That was an Origin 1-on-1 strip

Here we go kids

Cameron Smith would be proud of those Qld extra wrestling hold downs without being penalised….

What a fucking game of football, that was awesome.

Munster is the new Wally Lewis. What a game.

I have no idea how Qld held on.

@mariner4life there was actually some beautiful footy in that final 10 by the Blues. The short passing, bodies in motion and direct running was great to watch. We should see more of it.

Glad Qld won this because I think it will add a bit more attention come game 2 and might add a bit of spice.

@mariner4life yea I really enjoyed the second half, good game alright.

Munster was johnny on the spot to get Qld out of a pickle a few times, and Holmes had a few big defensive plays.

Origin finish, the pace of the game throughout was incredibly fast and right to the last second.

You had the feeling another minute and it may have been tied

Great win for Queensland…Carrigan, Cotter, Val Holmes and of course Munster just insane.

Don’t see why the rest of the series won’t be this close

Who won?

That really was a pretty sweet game of league

Start was very even (can anyone see a reason Yeo didn't get an HIA?) but then NSW started to get on top., and rightly took the lead. Billy Slater showed a genuine bit of coaching acumen by making early changes. The introduction of Carrigan and Collins, followed by Grant, allowed Qld to take control of the middle. And they took a measure of control from there. The attack was disorganised right up until Ponga bounced a pass out to Cobbo.

2nd half was more of the same really, with Qld right on top but couldn't score enough points to get comfy. They were really hampered by the 2 injuries (Nanai came back but couldn't do much at all) and they started to get really tired. NSW started to click on attack as well, and on any other night nab two tries (how dumb do you have to be to stop in the line as a dummy runner? jesus). a 2nd NSW try was inevitible, and it looked for all money like a 3rd would come but Qld kept scrambling. What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

The last set was massive. Yeo went way closer than i thought he had any right too. And on a replay this morning he should have been allowed to play that ball. Extra time NSW win that.

For Qld some of the newbies were massive. Carrigan, Cotter, Cobbo all had huge games. In the first half i thought DCE, Holmes and Gagai were shit, but they got better and better. Grant was almost the most dangerous player on the pitch. Kaufusi is there to make tackles and general shittery. Does Papali make it for game 2 when he is only trusted to play the first 10 minutes? and probably only played the last 10 out of necessity? The Origin game might be too fast for him.

of course, as is tradition with origin, unless it's a blow out, the losing coach must whinge about the ref.

Klein was fucking dogshit, but both ways. Some of his calls, and then no calls, were mystifying. And some of the calls were the opposite of what would happen in club land too. Must have been pretty frustrating as a player.

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!

Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!

But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out

I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!

Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!

Wighton was their best player, ironically having a centre on the bench was lucky but was never the right option for a bench player

But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out

I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)

Don't get me wrong when both teams had momentum there was a bit of holding from both, we were just talking about the come back late in the second half where Queensland were just holding on, that's all I was referring too.

I do expect changes for NSW in game 2 but don't expect any real change in the closeness of the score line, both teams look evenly matched.

@booboo said in Origin 2022:

Who won?

put it this way, my facebook feed is full of queenslanders who have suddenly found their log in details again.