Origin 2022

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!

Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!

But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out

I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

@bayimports said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.

Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.

I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure

I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)

it's not worse than Innisfail

i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching

He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.

lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.

Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere

lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!

Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!

Wighton was their best player, ironically having a centre on the bench was lucky but was never the right option for a bench player

But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out

I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)

Don't get me wrong when both teams had momentum there was a bit of holding from both, we were just talking about the come back late in the second half where Queensland were just holding on, that's all I was referring too.

I do expect changes for NSW in game 2 but don't expect any real change in the closeness of the score line, both teams look evenly matched.

@booboo said in Origin 2022:

Who won?

put it this way, my facebook feed is full of queenslanders who have suddenly found their log in details again.

@mariner4life it’s crazy that Klein gets Origin matches. I wouldn’t have him in the top 3. The only positive for Klein is that he’s not as bad as the token kiwi ref Perenara that was running around not knowing up or down.

Spicy

Yeo was proper concussed and absolutely should have come off

but didn't, because Origin.

So Freddy blinks first

Staggs dropped, Wighton out with Covid. Sims dropped. Campbell-Gillard dropped. Matterson dropped.

Jake Turbo in. Jordan McLean in. Victor Radley in. Siosifa Talakai in. Clint Gutherson in.
As a Queensland fan, none of these scare me that much

For Qld losing Cotter is massive. Coates covered by Tuilagi. Cotter covered by Arrow who at least has been there before.

Blues squad:

James Tedesco, capt. (Sydney Roosters)
Angus Crichton (Sydney Roosters)
Apisai Koroisau (Penrith Panthers)
Brian To’o (Penrith Panthers)
Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Clint Gutherson (Parramatta Eels)
Damien Cook (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Daniel Tupou (Sydney Roosters)
Isaah Yeo (Penrith Panthers)
Jake Trbojevic (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
Jarome Luai (Penrith Panthers)
Jordan McLean (North Queensland Cowboys)
Joseph Suaalii (Sydney Roosters)
Junior Paulo (Parramatta Eels)
Liam Martin (Penrith Panthers)
Matt Burton (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)
Nicho Hynes (Cronulla Sharks)
Payne Haas (Brisbane Broncos)
Siosifa Talakai (Cronulla Sharks)
Stephen Crichton (Penrith Panthers)
Victor Radley (Sydney Roosters)

Maroons Squad

1. Kalyn Ponga (Newcastle Knights)
2. Selwyn Cobbo (Brisbane Broncos)
3. Valentine Holmes (North Queensland Cowboys)
4. Dane Gagai (Newcastle Knights)
5. Murray Taulagi (North Queensland Cowboys)
6. Cameron Munster (Melbourne Storm)
7. Daly Cherry-Evans, capt. (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
8. Lindsay Collins (Sydney Roosters)
9. Ben Hunt (St George Illawarra Dragons)
10. Josh Papalii (Canberra Raiders)
11. Kurt Capewell (Brisbane Broncos)
12. Felise Kaufusi (Melbourne Storm)
13. Tino Fa'asuamaleaui (Gold Coast Titans)
14. Harry Grant (Melbourne Storm)
15. Jai Arrow (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
16. Patrick Carrigan (Brisbane Broncos)
17. Jeremiah Nanai (North Queensland Cowboys)
18. Tom Dearden (North Queensland Cowboys)
19. Thomas Flegler (Brisbane Broncos)
20. Beau Fermor (Gold Coast Titans)
21. Corey Oates (Brisbane Broncos)
22. Reece Walsh (Warriors)

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

So Freddy blinks first

Staggs dropped, Wighton out with Covid. Sims dropped. Campbell-Gillard dropped. Matterson dropped.

Jake Turbo in. Jordan McLean in. Victor Radley in. Siosifa Talakai in. Clint Gutherson in.
As a Queensland fan, none of these scare me that much

For Qld losing Cotter is massive. Coates covered by Tuilagi. Cotter covered by Arrow who at least has been there before.

wow..7 changes and some I am surprised with, Freddy has lost it. Cotter is a massive out, but Qld probably still just in front due to Freddy's over reaction

Forward pass?

Sheesh 10 in the bin for that? Massive call.

And try immediately.

This is a stitch up

Game 3 decider guaranteed

At the game. Decent crowd and stadium is better than I expected.

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

This is a stitch up

Game 3 decider guaranteed

Dead set

I do like how the Blues chance their arm.

Tedesco’s involvement in the attack has been huge.

Weight of possession

That was a gorgeous pass, looping over the defence

@Kiap said in Origin 2022:

At the game. Decent crowd and stadium is better than I expected.

I watched ManU and Leeds there and there were 50K+ there and I thought the stadium was pretty awesome.

One-on-one strip with 3 Blues players in the tackle…

Two of them peeled away eventually but not before the other one had grabbed it and the Qld ball carrier was on his knees.

That’s not how they have been calling them this season.

Fuck

Fuck off Freddie you fucking drop kick

Qld killed by their errors

A complete game by Cleary. Been great in all facets.

Qld defence is shot to shit

And they score again

Ponga is really shit by the way

Field position everything tonight

Ponga with some matador defence there.

Qld have coughed up too much ball.

Blues have been deadly when they’ve played with width, making huge metres on the edges.

@mariner4life Ponga was instrumental in that first Qld try, getting into the line, but other than that has been MIA.

He simply doesn’t have the game for Origin when it’s an arm wrestle. He can’t hit the ball up, unlike Tedesco.

Andrew Johns with a masterclass tonight in biased commentary

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

This is a stitch up

Game 3 decider guaranteed

Greatest game ever needs a thrilling conclusion.

well, that was a step up on game one, until the sin bin. Game was changed right there. The scramble defence in the following 10 minutes sucked out all energy from Qld and the rout ensued.

Tupou showed how valuable he could be last night though and having Burton really helped spread the kicking around, still shame about the sin bin

One Qld fan wins my support lol

@NTA said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:

This is a stitch up

Game 3 decider guaranteed

Greatest game ever needs a thrilling conclusion.

When I got up this morning I checked Tribe app for the score, not the result as obviously that was a foregone conclusion, but I was surprised by the score.

The refereeing was a disgrace. Clear attempt to make Queensland competitive.

QUEENSLAND TEAM LIST

1. Kalyn Ponga - Newcastle Knights

2. Selwyn Cobbo - Brisbane Broncos

3. Valentine Holmes - North Queensland Cowboys

4. Dane Gagai - Newcastle Knights

5. Murray Taulagi - North Queensland Cowboys

6. Cameron Munster - Melbourne Storm

7. Daly Cherry-Evans - Manly Sea Eagles

8. Lindsay Collins - Sydney Roosters

9. Ben Hunt - St George Illawarra Dragons

10. Josh Papalii - Canberra Raiders

11. Kurt Capewell - Brisbane Broncos

12. Jeremiah Nanai - North Queensland Cowboys

13. Tino Fa’asuamaleaui - Gold Coast Titans

14. Harry Grant - Melbourne Storm

15. Jai Arrow - South Sydney Rabbitohs

16. Patrick Carrigan - Brisbane Broncos

17. Tom Gilbert - North Queensland Cowboys

18. Thomas Flegler - Brisbane Broncos

19. Tom Dearden - North Queensland Cowboys

20. Beau Fermor - Gold Coast Titans

21. Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow - North Queensland Cowboys

22. Sam Walker - Sydney Roosters

NSW SQUAD

1. James Tedesco (c) (Sydney Roosters)

2. Brian To’o (Penrith Panthers)

3. Matt Burton (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)

4. Stephen Crichton (Penrith Panthers)

5. Daniel Tupou (Sydney Roosters)

6. Jarome Luai (Penrith Panthers)

7. Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)

8. Jordan McLean (North Queensland Cowboys)

9. Apisai Koroisau (Penrith Panthers)

10. Jake Trbojevic (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)

11. Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs)

12. Liam Martin (Penrith Panthers)

13. Isaah Yeo (Penrith Panthers)

14. Damien Cook (South Sydney Rabbitohs)

15. Angus Crichton (Sydney Roosters)

16. Junior Paulo (Parramatta Eels)

17. Siosifa Talakai (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks)

18. Jack Wighton (Canberra Raiders)

19. Nicho Hynes (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks)

20. Clint Gutherson (Parramatta Eels)

21. Jacob Saifiti (Newcastle Knights)

22. Reece Robson (North Queensland Cowboys)

Gagai and Papalii on last chance saloon here i reckon. Both have been very average this series.

Nanai has struggled to make any impact on the field (yes excuse in G1) and needs to fill some very big tackling boots. Qld will give away less 6-agains though.

Bit of defense this game wouldn't go amiss. Yes even you Kalyn

Kaufusi and Haas forced changes to both sides, but the success of the cowboys has seen players filled from their team in either side. Probably lucky the bye comes for them this week from an NRL perspective.

Munster and Taulagi out with covid

FML

Ardie knows what's up

The biggest game of the week is still, fuck probably 6 hours away by the time we get through all the pregame bullshit.

No way Qld overcomes the loss of Munster, leaving DCE to win us the game. Someone in the backs would have to play a fucking blinder, along with a couple of forwards.

Munster and Cotter were Qld's best players in G1, and they are gone.

Meanwhile NSW are packed with Panthers, and those fluffybunnies never ever get hurt. So their most important players are all there. Cleary and Burton will kick Qld to death, they'll win the territory battle by fuckloads, and at one point score a quick run of tries to win by about 16.

Fuck you cleary you suspiciously pimply and wide jawed fuck.

Oh, and Jerome Luia will do fuck all for most of the game, but still celebrate hardest and mouth off the absolute most because he is a fuckhead.

@mariner4life Gold medal to you in the Claiming the Underdog Status

@Higgins said in Origin 2022:

@mariner4life Gold medal to you in the Claiming the Underdog Status

you just don't "get" origin

we are always the underdog. always

sure, our team may at one point have had peak Slater, Inglis, Thurston, Lockyer, Smith, Petro, Price et al

but we were fucking underdogs mate. Qld spirit won that.

deadset