All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

Chris B.

@FakatavaAllBlack Yeah - every time he gets an opportunity to have a run of starts for the Crusaders, he gets injured himself.

Quinten can play though - and he's got a hard edge to him. He won't jump over Dickson this week as cover, but "he won't be far away".

Torian

@Chris-B seems like there's a mako arriving at Abs training every few days first it was former mako Telea, then Lomax, now Frizell & you seem to think quin isn't far away

Chris B.

@FakatavaAllBlack Mitch Hunt is practicing hard! 🙂

Crucial

@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Chris-B seems like there's a mako arriving at Abs training every few days first it was former mako Telea, then Lomax, now Frizell & you seem to think quin isn't far away

It's because the NZR salary top up is minimised due to the lavish Mako contracts.

Dan54

@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Chris-B seems like there's a mako arriving at Abs training every few days first it was former mako Telea, then Lomax, now Frizell & you seem to think quin isn't far away

Geez what they been doing letting Josh Dickson and Patrick Tuipulotu huh Faka?? They must of pretended they were with Ta$man!!

Have BBBR and Barrett started together before?

@taniwharugby Tuipulotu played a full 80 for Ponsonby , looked in amazing shape , had a good natter to him

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voodoo

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

mariner4life

@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

Kiwiwomble

@mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

Nepia

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

You'd get a big money offer from the Canes though.

Bones

MSR should be next cab off the ranks if we're going purely off playing ability.

ACT Crusader

@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@FakatavaAllBlack Mitch Hunt is practicing hard! 🙂

The Henry days of having our 6th and 7th 1st 5 ready to go are over. Sorry Mitch.

Chris B.

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

Not me.

I was a toss of a coin away from AB selection.

No - sorry, the point I wanted to make is that I'd be crippled for life in the first tackle, so I am "unavailable for selection"!!!

ACT Crusader

@Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@FakatavaAllBlack Mitch Hunt is practicing hard! 🙂

The Henry days of having our 6th and 7th 1st 5 ready to go are over. Sorry Mitch.

Harsh, but fair.

Brett Cameron wasn't the Henry days was he? Surely any 10 anywhere in NZ is in with a chance following that precedent.

I blame Fox

taniwharugby

@Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

and you never know whose Mum is reading your posts

ha, well I can assure you there have been (are still) some relatives of NPC/Super players on here, IIRC there was a mother at one point too....or at least someone in the whanau using the mums email account

Victor Meldrew

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Me too. On the plus side, he's experienced and a good leader.

I recall 1 or 2 games when Pat T really stepped up, plenty of others when he was OK to anonymous. If he's in the 23 (as appears likely) let's hope it's the former.

Victor Meldrew

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

Yeah, but think of how much pace you'd have compared to BBBR, SB & Sam.

taniwharugby

@Victor-Meldrew forget them, I bet he weighs less than Rieko, and we know how quick he is!

Chris B.

@Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

booboo

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

Don't think it'd only be about your weight though

mariner4life

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

I've played against that level of player a few times and it is just so quickly rammed home to you how far out of.your league they are. Harder, faster, meaner, they play another game

But fuck yes I will keyboard warrior the shit out of them, because I'm not comparing them to me, I'm comparing them to their peers

Clean a ruck Ardie you faerie!!

mariner4life

@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

Don't think it'd only be about your weight though

Fuck you!!

Victor Meldrew

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

I've played against that level of player a few times and it is just so quickly rammed home to you how far out of.your league they are. Harder, faster, meaner, they play another game

A bit OT, but I once sat next seat bar one to Colin Meads on a flight from Hamilton to Wellington in the late '70's. Bugger me, he looked scary.

booboo

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

Don't think it'd only be about your weight though

Fuck you!!

I hope you realise you're talking to THE Booboo who picked up and dumped Mark Cooksley* on his arse. More than once.

But yeah, All Blacks are generally All Blacks for a reason.

My favourite is when I played against Daryl Mitchell's dad in a Waikato club rugby semi final...

... like where the fuck is the ball? How the fuck did he do that? ...

  • noting it only Mark Cooksley ...
MiketheSnow

@Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
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I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

Unless the Irish are hoping

  1. SB is picked for Saturday
  2. He does it again
canefan

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
View image

I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

Looks worse the more times you see it. I hope Foz makes SB watch that all day everyday to try and stop that shit

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

@mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses not to train after telling Steve Hanson I’m past it!