Foster's Firsts.

I keep hearing about first time this or that about Foster's tenure. Can we have a list here...

First to lose to Ireland in NZ.
First to lose a series to Ireland.
First 3 test series loss in professional era.
Worst halftime deficit ever.
First to lose to Argentina, the island stealers FFS!
First....?

The @BartMan ?

First Super Rugby finalists to have 60 points put on them?

Not firsts but

Highest score against us
Biggest losing margin
Lowest world ranking
Worst win rate in Pro era

Not sure if he has the worst win rate against tier 1 teams ever?

@Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

Not firsts but

Highest score against us
Biggest losing margin
Lowest world ranking
Worst win rate in Pro era

Not sure if he has the worst win rate against tier 1 teams ever?

good points..

but since no fat jokes on this thread yet, i would like to add the he would be the fattest coach too, but Hansen might still beat him, but i would ask for a weigh in for proof

@KiwiMurph was just finding that, 61-17 in 2009.

The man couldn't win a one ticket raffle.

@bayimports no fat jokes...

First to the breakfast buffets.

@Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

Not firsts but

Highest score against us
Biggest losing margin
Lowest world ranking
Worst win rate in Pro era

Not sure if he has the worst win rate against tier 1 teams ever?

The highest scores and biggest margins are not just overall but individual nation records too, Oz, France, Ireland, SA, Argentina (obviously)

It wasn't that long ago that Ireland were lucky to get off nil and did virtual laps of honour if they fluked it to double figures. Mr. Foster has comfortably erased those from Ireland's goals to aim for.

@bayimports said in Foster's Firsts.:

@Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

Not firsts but

Highest score against us
Biggest losing margin
Lowest world ranking
Worst win rate in Pro era

Not sure if he has the worst win rate against tier 1 teams ever?

good points..

but since no fat jokes on this thread yet, i would like to add the he would be the fattest coach too, but Hansen might still beat him, but i would ask for a weigh in for proof

Fairly sure Hansen is quite a bit taller so I assume heavier, but both fat fluffybunnies.

Most pies eaten in one sitting

First coach to get @Bartman to start a thread on crap coaches this decade.

(Fully expecting @Baron-Silas-Greenback to put in an appearance)

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster's Firsts.:

First coach to get @Bartman to start a thread on crap coaches this decade.

(Fully expecting @Baron-Silas-Greenback to put in an appearance)

You know that he needs to go when Bartman makes an appearance.

First time I've doubted an AB coach.
I've always assumed there was some plan I was just too dumb to understand.
I even believed the "dry powder" throughout the 2019 World Cup, and walked out of Yokohama thinking.. "fuck - it just didn't quite work".
And throughout the last couple of years, again, just going... "fuck.. that went wrong" after each loss.
I'm finally ready to jump on the "panic and put Foster against the wall, shoot the fluffybunny" bandwagon.
But then... I've gone off half-cocked before....

@Kruse

Usually only in the movie review thread. It's a bad sign when you are commenting on the footy.

Next thing we know, we’ll find out that MN5 actually watched a rugby game.

First time I didn't give a shit about an AB loss.

I suppose that's because there have been so many of them.....

@Rancid-Schnitzel Yeah, gone numb.

@Rancid-Schnitzel
Agreed. The nervousness that used to be there is gone, because I have zero faith we can pull it out of the bag.

The effects of the Foster era will be felt long term as fans and neutrals stop tuning in.

@Rancid-Schnitzel I don’t feel any worst than I did when we lost in the 2003 semi or the 2007 QF or the 2009 losses to the Boks, or those Bledisloe heartbreaks against the John Eales teams in the late 90s and early 00s or the 94 French debacle. Because for me as a fan the outcome is the same - a loss.

Sure there are things that I see as problems, but I’m just a fan and I’ll keep supporting the team no matter who’s involved - there’s pain no doubt

Given @BartMan has come out of Fern retirement - maybe he needs to get the “Keep the Faith” T-shirts back up and going again. I got mine years ago and now one of the ACTC Jnr’s wears it

@ACT-Crusader the ole Keep the Faith. Yeah that's about the size of it.

What was the quote?

@Kruse said in Foster's Firsts.:

First time I've doubted an AB coach.
I've always assumed there was some plan I was just too dumb to understand.

Are you too young to remember Laurie Mains or did you just blank that out?

@ARHS Laurie is a Rolls Royce compared to the shit pit we're in

@ACT-Crusader Of course, I'll keep the faith, and will support the ABs no matter what. Have the old Silverfern T-shirt as well. I ordered it even though I was too timid to post much at that time. I will also push the replace Foster bandwagon online although I wish nothing but the best for the man himself.

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster's Firsts.:

@ACT-Crusader Of course, I'll keep the faith, and will support the ABs no matter what. Have the old Silverfern T-shirt as well. I ordered it even though I was too timid to post much at that time. I will also push the replace Foster bandwagon online although I wish nothing but the best for the man himself.

That's the point. It isn't personal. I'm sure Fozzie is a top bloke to have a beer with. But as the head of a high performance team, all evidence points to him not being good enough.

Thanks for trying Ian. At least you now know you weren't good enough

First time I 've genuinely thought I could do a better job of coaching the ABs than the Fat Useless Clown in the coaching box.

@ACT-Crusader said in Foster's Firsts.:

@Rancid-Schnitzel I don’t feel any worst than I did when we lost in the 2003 semi or the 2007 QF or the 2009 losses to the Boks, or those Bledisloe heartbreaks against the John Eales teams in the late 90s and early 00s or the 94 French debacle. Because for me as a fan the outcome is the same - a loss.

Sure there are things that I see as problems, but I’m just a fan and I’ll keep supporting the team no matter who’s involved - there’s pain no doubt

Given @BartMan has come out of Fern retirement - maybe he needs to get the “Keep the Faith” T-shirts back up and going again. I got mine years ago and now one of the ACTC Jnr’s wears it

I have faith in New Zealand rugby but no faith whatsoever in Foster. You have to be a fool to really.

Another Foster first:

He's finally killed the myth the All Blacks peak between World Cups.

@BartMan

Ha! Was going to say first in line when KFC opens!

@Victor-Meldrew

I think he has killed the idea of ABs playing at their peak

And, for the first time ever, Aura is actually dead.

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster's Firsts.:

First time I didn't give a shit about an AB loss.

I suppose that's because there have been so many of them.....

Yeah this loss had a massive air of inevitability about it.

Even the usual die hard morons on FB weren’t as loud about the ABs as they usually are.

First All Black team to lose in Paris I think?

@Chester-Draws said in Foster's Firsts.:

And, for the first time ever, Aura is actually dead.

Noooo. She's died before. You guys just know how to resurrect her from time to time

@Unite said in Foster's Firsts.:

First All Black team to lose in Paris I think?

No we've lost 3 times in Paris: All Blacks in Paris

Looking at those results maybe you misheard 'the first lost at Stade de France'?

@Duluth said in Foster's Firsts.:

@Unite said in Foster's Firsts.:

First All Black team to lose in Paris I think?

No we've lost 3 times in Paris: All Blacks in Paris

Looking at those results maybe you misheard 'the first lost at Stade de France'?

Ah yep, that must have been it.

@Kruse said in Foster's Firsts.:

First time I've doubted an AB coach.

Did you only start following the ABs in 2020?

@Nepia said in Foster's Firsts.:

@Kruse said in Foster's Firsts.:

First time I've doubted an AB coach.

Did you only start following the ABs in 2020?

Possibly worded quite badly... perhaps I mean more something like "First time I've stopped being willing to give the AB coach the benefit of the doubt"

@Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

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Loss number seven under his watch came after just 24 tests, a rapid rate compared to his predecessor, Sir Steve Hansen.
It took 89 tests for Hansen to suffer seven losses.

History was made when the error-riddled All Blacks trudged off Sky Stadium staring down the barrel of a 22-3 halftime deficit.
Never before, in 119 years of test rugby, had the All Blacks trailed by 19 points at halftime in a test match.