@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.
I can't see Cane resigning unless he truly feels that he isn't good enough to be the NZ no7. I've not seen any evidence of that.
Read was a shadow of his great self for the last 18 months of his career and didn't step aside.
There are now 12 or 13 tests between now and the world cup, aren't there?
That is enough time to give to a new coach to have a chance of putting his own stamp on the team and effecting a culture change.
But it has to be now. Not after SA or the 4N. If Foster is in place still after the 4N, you know that the NZRU have decided to ride it out, because it'll be too late to do anything at that point with only the EOYT and a couple of tests next year available.
Question, has any AB captain in living memory given up the captaincy? (Not a dig at Cane, just curious).
@stodders said in Foster must go:
@sparky said in Foster must go:
Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.
Why wait?
He might do the honourable thing and figuratively take the whiskey and the revolver to take the decision out of the hands of the idiots above him?
When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??
Did Wayne smith resign?
@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:
When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??
Did Wayne smith resign?
Of course he did, he has both self awareness and honour
@Machpants said in Foster must go:
@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:
When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??
Did Wayne smith resign?
Of course he did, he has both self awareness and honour
From memory it was more he had self-doubts, no?
@stodders said in Foster must go:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:
I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.
I can't see Cane resigning unless he truly feels that he isn't good enough to be the NZ no7. I've not seen any evidence of that.
Read was a shadow of his great self for the last 18 months of his career and didn't step aside.
He's a proud bloke who always gives his all. He'll be hurting and poss.thinking he's let people down. Just wondering if he's thinking of tossing the captain's armband to someone else
Someone said there was an 0900 press conference this morning. Anyone got any sauce?
Also, continuing the theme, autocorrect press went to pies. Go Foster
@nzzp said in Foster must go:
Someone said there was an 0900 press conference this morning. Anyone got any sauce?
Also, continuing the theme, autocorrect press went to pies. Go Foster
Press Conference will be for Foster to announce he ate three tubs of ice cream last night.
@nzzp well last night I bailed an an AB game at half time, I think I kinda.did that once before.but wasn't a tier 1 opposition and our score was mounting.
That performance last night, well the 40 mins I saw was probably the worst half of rugby from us I can recall for a very long time, if ever.
Our defence.has awful since McLeod took over, our attack is predictable.
We have lost 4 of our last 5 tests, and highly likely we will be 1 from 7 after visiting SA.
Sure the players are the ones out there missing the tackles, dropping the passes etc but these guys haven't become shit since leaving.thier super sides.
So it falls on the coaching team, we lack a clear game plan, or at least one the players can execute, because they look lost.
And as such this is when they start making uncharacteristic errors, due no no clarity around roles, around what they are trying to achieve, this affects confidence too.
Is there a.coaching team that can step in right now should Fozzie do the decent thing? Cos it has to.be a.sweep, not just him.
What time is the press conference?
The defence is the area which has looked substandard and I have talked about it before here at length.
I am no rugby tactician at all however it is clear to see that our defense has been too passive and allows a team like Ireland to control a game while making easy metres upfield.
We do not employ a rush defence, which is weird as we know how disruptive it is. We also don’t turn the ball over enough when defending to take advantage of our broken play ability.
The ABs have been praised at times for their defensive work in stopping teams for long period on our goal line and with men off the field.
I don’t think this is the system working, more a case of players scrambling like hell to stay in the game. Which drains them completely. I don’t think it’s them trusting a system to repel attacks.
We had no answer to Ireland intricate attack today. Literally none for a couple of tries.
We are playing outdated rugby and we have been found out big time.
@DaGrubster in some ways its easier to defend your line in those situations than further down the park as opposition options are slightly limited too.
Yeah I've wondered for a long time why we haven't used the rush defence: if you can't beat em, join em.
Everything about our game is passive and screams what should we do: what we are doing isn't working but we will keep trying it cos it used to work.
@DaGrubster hang on a sec, let's not pretend our attack is anything but pathetic. How were our tries constructed? How did we maintain possession and get ourselves into attacking positions on the field? How did we create overlaps and mismatches?
Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!
Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.
But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.
There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit
@Donsteppa said in Will Foster go?:
Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…
Well it's been a week or firsts for the ABs, Robinson will no doubt want in.on that action.
For a long time there was a "Has Transmission Gully opened yet?" Twitter account. It might be a daily question about whether Ian Foster has resigned yet...
@mofitzy_ said in Foster must go:
@MajorRage
The fans get a say when they actually do something instead of moan on the internet and talk radio.
Storm NZR HQ? All we've got is moaning on the internet and talk radio
I think he will walk. Won’t happen today, it needs to be planned with assistants as he’s basically doing them out of a job as well.
Also requires his employer to get replacements organized.
If this happens it has to be Razor unless it is clear that Schmidt only wants the job short term. Otherwise Razor goes and another country gets to lift their game enough to beat us. Our exports are killing us.
And if he doesn't go... how many people are honestly looking forward to tuning into the next Test?
@Donsteppa said in Will Foster go?:
And if he doesn't go... how many people are honestly looking forward to tuning into the next Test?
Not me. If they play like this they’re not my team. I’d rather watch club rugby.
He won’t go. No way.
Food for thought …. Records there to be broken. Is the current Irish team good enough to be on this list?
Point is. If they are, move on. If they aren’t … sack Foster.
@broughie said in Foster must go:
Missed the game. Wake me up the fire the fool.
What game? Was there a game on that I somehow did not know about?
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@Duluth said in Foster must go:
The realistic option is Schmidt
He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.
Does he want a head coach role though?
@Duluth I know you can't answer that but I'm not convinced he wants a head coach role, so we are either stuck with Foster or we go to Razor with Schmidt taking the reigns short term. I'd love for Schimidt to take over for what it's worth.
reins
Sorry - but I've noticed it a couple of times now...
(Edit: to be fair, you could nearly go with reign - without the s)
There's never a wrong time for pedantry.
@DaGrubster said in Foster must go:
Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!
Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.
But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.
There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit
Jordie to his credit tried to sort that at least
@MajorRage said in Will Foster go?:
He won’t go. No way.
Food for thought …. Records there to be broken. Is the current Irish team good enough to be on this list?
Point is. If they are, move on. If they aren’t … sack Foster.
Well they are ranked number one in the world now so it’s fair to say they’re a decent team.
All Blacks were a disgrace in that first half
Never thought I’d witness them being booed from the field, but that’s exactly what happened as they headed underneath us into the tunnel at half time.
All the ABs could do was kick the fucking ball away, or pass the ball to someone standing flat footed.
We play slow, predictable, stodgy rugby.
Worst All Blacks Coach in my lifetime!
@Kirwan you'd have to think if Foster has any self awareness he must be considering if he can continue?
It must be massively stressful for him and his family, didn't Henry's wife talk about the shit they went through.
I feel for him in a way, circumstances saw him raised above his station, I can understand he thought he had it in him, and convinced other he had it in him, evidence now says the opposite, no shame in him accepting that and stepping down...unless he isn't considering it...
Wasn’t Foster supposed to hold a media conference this morning? I thought it started at 0900 NZT
@Kirwan said in Foster must go:
Stafford shitstirring, or is there a press conference?
Probably will end being a Press conference to reassure the public they and Foster have everything under control, and it is all another learning curve under this coaching regime.We should all calm down and trust Foster and the NZR as they know better
If there is even a press conference.
@taniwharugby Agree.
But if Foster thinks this is bad, after another couple of losses it will just get worse. If we go into the RWC with the current track record then worse still.
So either he thinks he can fix it, and all will come right, or he will resign. I'm betting, judging on his previous history, that he thinks he can fix it.
Whether NZ Rugby tell him otherwise, who knows?
Fitzy thinks -
Talking on Sky Sport UK following the third test, the 92-test capped All Black said on the evidence seen over the last three weeks, New Zealand doesn't have a side to win the World Cup next year.
"They'll obviously be hugely disappointed to lose the series. But I suppose the style in which they lose the series will be concerning going forward," Fitzpatrick said.
"The questions will be asked. Have they the right coaches? Have they the right head coach? We were outcoached, without question. So they need to decide what they're going to do in terms of going forward.
"Have they got the right players? That's going to be another question, and have they got a team that's capable of winning the World Cup? On what we've seen in the last two weeks, you would doubt that.
"We do have Joe Schmidt in the wings, he'll be coming back into the team now when they go to South Africa, so we'll just wait and see. Let's not throw the toys out of the cot just yet."
Anyone calling for Foster to go now is throwing their toys out of the cot in a tantrum.
Idiot.
@taniwharugby said in Foster must go:
@Kirwan you'd have to think if Foster has any self awareness he must be considering if he can continue?
It must be massively stressful for him and his family, didn't Henry's wife talk about the shit they went through.
I feel for him in a way, circumstances saw him raised above his station, I can understand he thought he had it in him, and convinced other he had it in him, evidence now says the opposite, no shame in him accepting that and stepping down...unless he isn't considering it...
Let GH explain what pressure Fozz is under
At 1hr 30. Or watch the whole thing.... The pressure on Fozz must be immense right now
@Frank said in Foster must go:
Fitzy thinks -
alking on Sky Sport UK following the third test, the 92-test capped All Black said on the evidence seen over the last three weeks, New Zealand doesn't have a side to win the World Cup next year."They'll obviously be hugely disappointed to lose the series. But I suppose the style in which they lose the series will be concerning going forward," Fitzpatrick said.
"The questions will be asked. Have they the right coaches? Have they the right head coach? We were outcoached, without question. So they need to decide what they're going to do in terms of going forward.
"Have they got the right players? That's going to be another question, and have they got a team that's capable of winning the World Cup? On what we've seen in the last two weeks, you would doubt that.
"We do have Joe Schmidt in the wings, he'll be coming back into the team now when they go to South Africa, so we'll just wait and see. Let's not throw the toys out of the cot just yet."
Anyone calling for Foster to go now is throwing their toys out of the cot in a tantrum.
Idiot.
Did anyone ask Fitzy how many Irishmen he’d select in a combined XV ?
