NRL 2023 + Internationals

Duluth

@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:

Also Freddie wanted two more years as NSW coach when he thought Billy SLater was stepping down.

Billy signed on again yesterday and Freddie quit half an hour later.

Sad day for Queenslanders as NSW surely get an actual coach now.

I don't follow closely.. well I barely follow at all. Both sides seem to have celebrity coaches how much do they actually do?

Is their a figurehead coach and a technical coach at SOO level? Or is league the sort of game that a player can immediately coach without having to learn lessons at club level first?

Is club coaching more about squad building/management?

mariner4life

This was Billy's first go as a coach (well head coach) anywhere and by all accounts was fucking brilliant at it. Real attention to detail. Also helps that he brought in guys like Cam Smith, JT, and Josh Hannay who appears to be a good coach.

A big part of Origin is bring a bunch of quality players together and pointing them in the same direction, and you get a week before each game. So it's man management as much as anything. And selecting. But there is still a level of game planning and attention to detail that is required.

Freddie appeared to be a bit of a vibe guy, creating a nice atmosphere in camp, and relying on established club combinations to get them home. His best "coaching" performance was in the peak "6-again" era where he just selected as many fullbacks as possible and they ran riot against a far inferior opposition. It very much look like he just got out of the way and let Turbo and Latrell carve up.

Good Origin coaches don't necessarily make good club coaches, and vice versa, but Freddie was a shit club coach, and Origin hasn't gone that well either...

mariner4life

@Duluth said in NRL 2023:

Or is league the sort of game that a player can immediately coach without having to learn lessons at club level first?

Just on this, it's really no different to any other sport. You have to have an understanding of the game to succeed. And just like any other Sport, the absolute genius players tend to not be the best coaches, as they find it hard to pass on how to do things when it was just 2nd nature to them.

The NRL coaching ranks are full of ex-NRL players, but none of them were superstars. Just like rugby, it's the hard working thinking players that go on to be good coaches.
While Billy was a freak of player, he also worked hard at it, and thought his way through his career. All those years studying how Bellamy goes about it would have helped too. Cam Smith would be a fucking great coach. Andrew Johns however would be a disaster. I don't hold out much hope for Benji Marshall either.

bayimports

@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:

This was Billy's first go as a coach (well head coach) anywhere and by all accounts was fucking brilliant at it. Real attention to detail. Also helps that he brought in guys like Cam Smith, JT, and Josh Hannay who appears to be a good coach.

The guy already has a book of plays that most commentators are jealous of, but that coaching team is full of ex elite players too

As for NSW, they may actually go with a regular full time NRL coach this time. They are all guessing.

Agree with Edwards and Yeo being the glue for Penrith.

Interestingly for all the talk of SJ, Gus Gould suggested his player of the year was Tohu Harris..similarly with Penrith when SJ and Tohu weren't playing we weren't nearly as effective

Rancid Schnitzel

Fitter never struck me as being "cerebral" enough to be a coach. He may have matured but he was essentially a very laid back bogan who lucked out in the talent department (first grade at 17) and was happy to coast on that.

I always considered it a real shame that Peter Sterling never became a coach. Maybe the fact he never gave it a shot is a reflection on him not having the stones? Or maybe the Channe 9 gig is so sweet he'd have been made to give it up.

booboo

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2023:

Fitter never struck me as being "cerebral" enough to be a coach. He may have matured but he was essentially a very laid back bogan who lucked out in the talent department (first grade at 17) and was happy to coast on that.

I always considered it a real shame that Peter Sterling never became a coach. Maybe the fact he never gave it a shot is a reflection on him not having the stones? Or maybe the Channe 9 gig is so sweet he'd have been made to give it up.

Re Sterlo: Why take on the pressure?

canefan

@booboo said in NRL 2023:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2023:

Fitter never struck me as being "cerebral" enough to be a coach. He may have matured but he was essentially a very laid back bogan who lucked out in the talent department (first grade at 17) and was happy to coast on that.

I always considered it a real shame that Peter Sterling never became a coach. Maybe the fact he never gave it a shot is a reflection on him not having the stones? Or maybe the Channe 9 gig is so sweet he'd have been made to give it up.

Re Sterlo: Why take on the pressure?

There's a smart man

voodoo

I'm not a big league guy, but I'm looking forward to this. It's farking hot here in Sydders today today, probably still be in the 30's for the game apparently. Last 20 minutes will see some pretty tired lads.

Rancid Schnitzel

@booboo said in NRL 2023:

@Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2023:

Fitter never struck me as being "cerebral" enough to be a coach. He may have matured but he was essentially a very laid back bogan who lucked out in the talent department (first grade at 17) and was happy to coast on that.

I always considered it a real shame that Peter Sterling never became a coach. Maybe the fact he never gave it a shot is a reflection on him not having the stones? Or maybe the Channe 9 gig is so sweet he'd have been made to give it up.

Re Sterlo: Why take on the pressure?

For sure. He's had the best life. It's just a shame that we never got to see what he could bring as a coach.

Nepia

@voodoo said in NRL 2023:

I'm not a big league guy, but I'm looking forward to this. It's farking hot here in Sydders today today, probably still be in the 30's for the game apparently. Last 20 minutes will see some pretty tired lads.

My care factor for this took a huge drop from the time of that uncalled blatant forward pass last week. 😉

Will probably have it on while arguing with fools like us on the internet.

I also saw some Kiwis discussion that has pissed me off. DWZ has gone to Tonga. Fuck him and his stupid 1980s hori haircut. We also have no hooker as Smith and Marshall King are injured, that blond dude from Newcastle who is apparently a Kiwi is also injured, and guys that could fill in like Kodi Nikorima and Te Maire Martin are unavailable.

Gunner

The opening 18 minutes has been played at a hell of a pace.
Broncos too many errors so only fitting that Penrith get the first try off yet another error.

Come on Broncos!

Nepia

@Gunner said in NRL 2023:

The opening 18 minutes has been played at a hell of a pace.
Broncos too many errors so only fitting that Penrith get the first try off yet another error.

Come on Broncos!

Despite the fact they'e getting through most of their sets the Panthers handling has been average, lots of inaccurate passes.

Herbie should have just caught that ball.

Gunner

Ref forgot his whistle.

There’s been a few things ignored that would normally be penalised any other week of the year.

booboo

That first try reminds me of the ghost chip ads. Like "Monique sez your dumb"

mariner4life

Fucking Penrith do not make errors

Gunner

@mariner4life said in NRL 2023:

Fucking Penrith do not make errors

They’re immune to being penalised too, by the looks of things.

booboo

Hey look at us America. Scotty Pippen. Look look. We're playing in La Vegas next year. But look, look.

antipodean

@booboo said in NRL 2023:

Hey look at us America. Scotty Pippen. Look look. We're playing in La Vegas next year. But look, look.

The level of cringe is off the charts.

Gunner

What a beauty try!!!

C’mon Broncos!

booboo

Broncos score "A Grand Final Try"!

canefan

Broncos starting to run Penrith around a bit. A bit like they did to us

Gunner

@canefan said in NRL 2023:

Broncos starting to run Penrith around a bit. A bit like they did to us

Looking dangerous every time they go wide.

Gunner

Oh wow, Broncos carving up.

How good is this Mam fulla!!!

canefan

Consolation for the Warriors is that they can't stop them either

antipodean

Penrith defending like Italy.

canefan

@antipodean said in NRL 2023:

Penrith defending like Italy.

Or are Brisbane just that good? Mam a couple of yards faster than his defenders