RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

And he could also have overruled him

@MiketheSnow surely he has to trust he has a better view of things?

Watching the replay. That yellow card to the Uruguayan for "direct contact with the head" was ridiculous. I didn't see any foul player there.

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Wish.com version of Wayne Barnes.

The Italians were genuinely losing their shit through this game. Uruguay living rent free in their heads for the first 60 minutes.

Uruguay 6 should have been MOTM

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

And he could also have overruled him

Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

@NTA said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

The Italians were genuinely losing their shit through this game. Uruguay living rent free in their heads for the first 60 minutes.

Uruguay 6 should have been MOTM

Preach

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Yeah but you're not neutral.

I've only watched the highlights, but the officiating was clearly a problem - again. Uruguay were rightly pissed-off after the final whistle.

I don't know what the answer is, but an acknowledgement from World Rugby that there is clearly a problem would be a good start.

@Victor-Meldrew we have known for years there were currently and would be issues with officiating.

@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow surely he has to trust he has a better view of things?

Why?

The TMO is seeing exactly what Gardner is seeing

And Gardner got to see stuff on the pitch as well

In real time, the TMO has an advantageous/better view

Once play has stopped the view is the same

Then it's about interpretation and influence

Gardner absolved himself of his duty - can't blame him with all the reversals and shithousery in disciplinary meetings - but he could have and should have had the final call

@Bones said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Yeah but you're not neutral.

Don't have to be

Blind Freddy could see that balls were dropped and the Italian 7 pushed his own man into the Uruguayan 12

@MiketheSnow Freddy over Freddie. Hola!

@Bones said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow Freddy over Freddie. Hola!

I was using the Aussie vernacular

G'day

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

And he could also have overruled him

Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

Carley

Carley: Any reason I can’t award the try?
TMO: No, no reason
Carley: No try.

@Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

Gardner is awful
Always had been
Hope we don’t see him this RWC
A lottery

Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

And he could also have overruled him

Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

Carley

Carley: Any reason I can’t award the try?
TMO: No, no reason
Carley: No try.

:face_with_tears_of_joy:

There are refs, refs with balls and then there's Carley.

@Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

sole arbiters

Not sure the current laws have the "sole judge of fact and law" written into them like they used to.

Need to check.

Think it's far more wishy washy.

FYI First Southern Lapwing try:penalty try and YC against the Eyeties ...

Anyone whinging that it should never have been awarded, and it was a free kick to Italy for deliberately preventing the ball being thrown in 5m?

Lapwings took that lineout at about 4m. Obvious live side on. End on it was horrible.

Awful call.

But doesn't suit the narrative that Uruguay were robbed.

didnt see tha game but this is a bit fucking mad

@Kiwiwomble Clear penalty. You can't have more than 15 players in the playing area during play.