@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ireland's defence is incredible.
8 points conceded vs Boks. nothing conceded vs Scotland until the contest was over.
I'd have Mo'unga and Beauden practicing drop goals all week.
Let's George Ford them.
Keep the scoreboard ticking over.
it's good, but the Bok numbers are misleading, they left heaps of points out there
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Keep the scoreboard ticking over.
See, it’s with cliches like this that we are destined to win.
We will only keep the scoreboard ticking over if we play what’s in front of us…
@ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...
Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?
@mariner4life true, probably not been helping since Suzie left the fishcakes on the windowsill over night!
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?
not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.
Just one.
No SB or JB in 2015.
Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader dont want it to be a game of 2 halves, unless Ireland are good in the 1st and we are gooder in the 2nd...
Also missed full credit, do they still have ladies in the kitchen?
Yeah definitely. Yeah nah
Need to play the full 80 minutes, but also important to score first, as well as just before and after half-time
I'd also have a good think about winning the collisions and being solid at set-piece
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Need to play the full 80 minutes, but also important to score first, as well as just before and after half-time
I'd also have a good think about winning the collisions and being solid at set-piece
Really we just need no more learnings cos we've learnt them already
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@nostrildamus who is left from 2015? Retallick, Whitelock, Smith, Taylor, Coles, BB, SB?
not sure what is currently happening with Moody but good guesses!
Cane of course, and JB. I count 9.
Just one.No SB or JB in 2015.
Just Coles, Taylor, Whitelock, Retallick, Cane, Smith, B. Barrett
Eh? You're right. I seem to have lost the ability to read. Learnings from the Fern, I guess.
ABs have had so many "learnings" you'd expect a 30-point victory! I know I harp on but it is the exits from the 22 that are going to be crucial. Last night in the Japan and Argies game, it was on the edge for both teams until a "BB-like shit kick" by Japan led to an Argie try and swung the momentum of the game. I will die a little on the inside when (not if...it is every game these days) this happens in the QF.
@canefan said in All Blacks 2023:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
The most important position in a Rugby team is Tighthead Prop. The second most important position in a Rugby team is backup Tighthead Prop. Losing Tyrell Lomax for a World Cup knockout would be a massive blow for the All Blacks.
Foster calls BS. Winger and reserve winger are the
twoseven most important positions
FIFY
@Old-Samurai-Jack maybe thats the problem, too many learnings and the messages getting confused.
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded
Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded
Leave a certain Blues superfan alone!
I did say "expects" not "wants" - surely even Tim isn't expecting Foster to make that change!
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded
It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.
Exactly
Every good performance in the last few years has been us having a good burst in the first half. We are decent front runners
When the game gets into an arm wrestle? This side has been abysmal. It's about mitigating that by picking bench players than can close out a match.
Whitelock v Retallick is a close call but they've settled on Whitelock being a finisher for the same reason
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Anyone expecting Paps to start over Cane is absolutely deluded
It's the same selection as the last time the top side was selected
No, they picked Cane initially and he got hurt just prior - edit - sorry, you're talking Italy not France? Not 100% then.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Beauden practicing drop goals all week.
BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.
Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy drop goal? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.
@frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Imagine how good it would be if we win via a Beaudy
drop goalchipkick out of our 22? Would be the hero arc his storied career deserves as an ending in black.
@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Beauden practicing drop goals all week.
BB's default these days is to kick so I think he'd be quite good at this. Although, he might be dumb enough to try them from out 22.
I hope not, otherwise....
I went with the All Blacks.
Can't fathom how many people are underestimating the ABs - plus Ireland are going to have that RWC QF monkey on their back slowing them down...
@Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge 
There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.
My feeling as well. 17 straight victories, some hard games on the trot, a loving Irish press, coach saying they will just get better, old Irish players fanning the love... it all screams "trip up" to me. But again, maybe delusional optimism causing me to see things that aren't there....
Win or Lose I want to hear the Irish media bitching for a week about our physicality just like they did after we played them in Dublin the week after the Soldiers field lose.
I feel like this nicey nicey PR shit that the NZRFU is so adamant about has infected our attitude on the pitch. If it needs to die a death for us to go back to a team that just smashes other teams so be it.
The NH will talk shit about us either way so let them write their stories. God I am fired up for this match the weekend can't come soon enough.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
There is zero logic behind this, particularly considering the dross served up by the Foster regime the past 4 years, but I have this feeling that the Irish are walking into a trap. Possibly (probably) nationalistic delusion, but we have the weapons to beat these fůckers. We had our party spoilt for 20 odd years. Time we did the same.
This is the only way I actually see us winning - if there is actually some dry powder that Foz, Schmidt et al have been working on that will take the Paddies so much by surprise that they simply do not know how to react. We basically need a repeat of the 2019 QF
@pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Any chance of Fozzie getting Covid before weekend?
Not sure if you’re saying Covid or covered or covert? When I read online the NZ accent can be hard to understand.
Some random thoughts.
This is Ireland’s match to lose. Nobody, I mean nobody, is expecting the ABs to win. If Eddie was coaching maate pressure would be chasing Andy Farrell down the street maate.
The ABs are not as bad as so many people are making out.
Ireland are not as good as so many people are making out.
I acknowledge they are the undisputed number 1 best team in the world at the moment. Their whole is way way more than the sum of their parts. But seriously, who amongst their XV, or even XXIII, is realistically in the conversation for a greatest all time team? I see some idiot was trying to crowbar Sexton into contention ... but DC, Wilkinson ...
Sexton is in the convo with Lynagh, Mehrts, Naas, Fox etc in that next level.
I think about the respect I had for England in '03, and how I reluctantly acknowledged that they were easily number 1, and really deserved their RWC because they dominated and had so many players in the conversation for the best ever: Johnson, Dallaglio, Hill, Wilkinson...
I maintain, this Irish mob have ... ummm ... who?
But again I'll acknowledge they are greater than the sum of their parts.
But is that whole really good enough?
... Back to us ...
Funnily enough I don't expect us to win. In 36 years of World Cups I have never said that. In probably 45 years of following the ABs I've likely said that twice, maybe three times (and we won ... ).
So us losing will not be 1991-2007 level devastation, or even 2019 type disappointment. Expectation is just not there. A win will be a delightful surprise.
Is this how the rest of the world watches rugby? Without expectation? How much fun is that?
Anyway Ireland, enjoy hate watching for everything that could go wrong under the crushing weight of expectation...
Personally I really hope we get Foster fat jokes for another two weeks. But if we don't at least there's a silver lining.
More random thoughts as they occur...
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Billy-Webb what's your tipping form been like so far in the competition Billy? Just wondering if it merits a hedge
It's actually been pretty good results wise (not points difference though).
Hedge away 
@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Some random thoughts...
2. The ABs are not as bad and so many people are making out.
Yup, that was random!
