RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

@chimoaus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@mariner4life

Reasons to like the Irish

Won a test series in NZ
Have won 17 games in a row beating all the top teams.
Took average Super Rugby players and made them great international players.
Built a team rather than relying on individual talent.
Innovative attack that walks the obstruction line but gets away with it.
Amazing discipline.
Excellent defence.
Excellent structure and plan.
A coach that knows what he is doing.

None of this computes

@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Fail and the fucker will face a tsunami of shit.

That he hasn't already?

Nah he's got nothing to lose.

@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

Friz, Paps, Ardie

I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

I actually this has enormous merit. Bringing the super experienced Sam's on to finish when the whips are cracking.

But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

We simply cannot let them continue to recycle phase after phase no matter who is selected

@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

I mean, we could lose. Another Foster first.

First QF exit? I thought we did that in 2007?

@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

I mean, we could lose. Another Foster first.

First QF exit? I thought we did that in 2007?

And here I was thinking Ireland had never won a quarter. Learn something every day.

@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

I mean, we could lose. Another Foster first.

First QF exit? I thought we did that in 2007?

And here I was thinking Ireland had never won a quarter. Learn something every day.

We could be the first team to lose to Ireland in a RWC knockout match, for sure

If we are nervous we are screwed.
Calm, direct and conservative.
Don't get suckered into high risk passing.

Up the guts, earn the right to go wide. Kick intelligently, chase with purpose. Kick your goals. Minimise mistakes. Strong set piece. Play with 15 players. Eat weetbix for breakfast. Make your tackles. Soak up dad's tears.

@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Up the guts, earn the right to go wide. Kick intelligently, chase with purpose. Kick your goals. Minimise mistakes. Strong set piece. Play with 15 players. Eat weetbix for breakfast. Make your tackles. Soak up dad's tears.

See, is that really so complicated? Get Foster on the hotline!

Choose life.

@booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Fail and the fucker will face a tsunami of shit.

That he hasn't already?

Nah he's got nothing to lose.

I get the feeling a lot more of the media will join the pile on this time. You’re right though, nothing he hasn’t faced already just he will get more of it.

@bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

@mariner4life had to have a giggle at Keith setting out the stall for the next 20 odd years of Nisbo. Geogahan and Wilson the two lookalikes.

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

Move on this week. No looking back. Come on Sir Foz

@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:

@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:

Friz, Paps, Ardie

I think that’s what they’ll pick. Finish the game with Cane subbing on for Papali’i & Barrett at 6

Not going to happen, same way they aren't dropping beaudy for DMac

Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

Foster's back is against the wall, along with many of the senior players. It's win or the end of some AB careers. I just hope we play with a huge level of desperation

@KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Stuff the odds - one off game - let's go Black.

There’s my man!

ABs to replicate Ireland's last loss and smack them by 15+

@mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Right. Everyone has their opinions on coaches and players. But the time for that has passed. This week is all support. Shove the negativity. Come fozzie, Sam and the lads!!

100% the above. These are World Cup knockouts. The ABs and their coaches deserve our total support for this next bit.

Go Fozzie! Go Sam! Go the Men in Black!

This is the time to build up further the glorious legacy.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

But I think Cane will start, and I hope that means Paps comes on absolutely fizzing

That worked against the Boks in the RC (IIRC Cane was outstanding at the breakdown) but we may need to try something different against the Oirish.

We can't let them dominate from the start and end up playing catch-up.

Yep I would love to see us send Ireland out of the WC,Put a dent in their ego and get some revenge from past losses.
If we can we are in the Final as we will win the SF.
Meet SA in the final and make it a SH final how good.

@gt12 ABs were the clear best in the world in 2007. They had smashed France twice in France several months before. France won.

If Wayne Barnes is the ref, maybe he’ll let the underdog ABs have a clear forward pass try to close the circle on 2007

@Victor-Meldrew you mean like allowing them to score a try in the first 5 mins like they did in the NZ series in 2022?

Eddie Jones laid the blueprint in 2018/2019 to play the current ABs. Score first and force the ABs to play catch up. Sometimes they can (vs England in 2019, Ire in test 1 2022) but sometimes they can’t (vs Fra 2021, Ire in 2021, 2022, SA test 1 in 2022 2019).

Ireland haven’t been behind so far in this World Cup, have they? We don’t know how they react to scoreboard pressure.

@Chris pretty much what most fans opposing the ABs over the years have said

Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

Ireland will go after Ioane. But NZ can go after Gibson-Park and Sexton. Force Sexton to put his physical all into the game and watch as he whinges and whines and loses his focus. La Rochelle did it to him. No surprise that O’Gara knows how to get under his skin.

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

Test rugby you mean

@canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@bayimports whatever they did before Ellis Park 2022…do it again.

One of the hallmarks of the Foster era is the inconsistency. If we simply didn't have the cattle and were clearly just not good enough I could begrudgingly accept that. But we show glimpses of how good we can be, which is infuriating

Well said that man. This is going to be tough but we can do it. If not then good luck to the Irish. That is where my family is from originally. You just have to love the support they bring.

@MiketheSnow teams know to beat the ABs is by scoring tries. Where Ireland and France have improved, less so SA, is that they know they don’t have to do it from minute 1. But they do need to take their chances when they have good territory.

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Gibson-Park

That's the key. Ireland are a shadow of the usual without him.

@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

Put Ireland under scoreboard pressure. Increment in 3s. Turn the screw. Make them chase for once. They are capable of chasing. They are v good. But pressure turns good players into average ones and cracks form in once thought perfect systems.

We are often guilty of trying too hard to win the game in big plays. I want to see a little bit of grind, play the game in their half and try to get some early scores, even if they are in 3s.

Test rugby you mean

Yes, I miss it sometimes . A reunion on the weekend would be great

@Bones Aaron Smith put Dupont in his pocket for the majority of the French test in game 1 of World Cup. He can do the same to Gibson-Park. Roigard will hopefully be the bench option to come in and bring the intensity and harass.

@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@canefan first half vs France was good. Stay in touch and if the opportunity to play with penalty advantage or their mistake comes, execute.

Yup. Problems started when they wanted to run them about by going wide. Just got too cute

There will be a yellow card in this game. Both teams are cynical in the red zone.