NRL 2024

booboo

@Nepia said in NRL 2024:

Missing a good Kiwis performance too.

I guess league taking over in NZ, as the media and social media has been telling me, is a bit premature?

Whilst this is probably true I just don't think Kiwis do live sport anymore.

Apart from the All Blacks and the Wahs bandwagon there's been no crowds since forever (and I suspect the latter will falter if the cop a couple of early losses).

Nepia

In other news the Tongans were shown up to be the pretenders they are on their NH tour getting whipped by England. I'm kind of disappointed we didn't get the chance to play them as we would have run up 50+ against them.

Konrad Hurrell is so fat I thought he was Ben Tamiefuna's slightly lighter skinned brother.

kiwiinmelb

Not quite a blackout but in the days of 3 point trys and all our players playing in nz we beat them 24-3 in 1971 , was massive at the time . I think it was over another 10 years ( Lowe years ) when we beat them again.

Kirwan

Was that expected in any way? Saw the highlights, nice trys

Nepia

@Kirwan said in NRL 2024:

Was that expected in any way? Saw the highlights, nice trys

I expected them to win, but not like that.

bayimports

@Kirwan said in NRL 2024:

Was that expected in any way? Saw the highlights, nice trys

History shows that any win is unexpected, although we are always hopeful. I think certainly we all expected a better showing than the result from the previous week.

bayimports

CNK also played the last two matches with a broken rib

canefan

I didn't see the first game. But yesterday our boys just looked bigger and stronger. Aussies played small, serves Mal right for picking a few boys on reputation

ACT Crusader

@Kirwan said in NRL 2024:

Was that expected in any way? Saw the highlights, nice trys

No way. I always live in hope but after watching them last week and how the Aussie forwards really took us to task, we were up against it.

The way we started the match really stung the Aussies. Even though we made a bunch of mistakes the way we hit them on both sides of the ball was with real force. And we hit them in waves too. There was a bit of a Warriors (good this season Warriors) shape to our attack.

But even with the forwards dominating, we needed our spine to take advantage and whilst man for man the Aussie 9, 6 and 7 are probably better players, our boys had excellent games and really stood up. Add the pace out wide and a fullback that always looks threatening, we pulled off what is a miraculous win.

In saying all that, the Qld origin team would’ve played better than that Aussie side…

Nepia

@ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2024:

whilst man for man the Aussie 9, 6 and 7 are probably better players

I think that's old thinking, or Origin first thinking, Hughes easily matches DCE. Munster still shades Brown but it looked like a changing of the guard last night.

African Monkey

@booboo Yup, certainly was.

African Monkey

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

booboo

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

Was that " Big Joe Row Party. They're cutting us to pieces and they're doing it with all the skill in the world ... " / Darrell Eastlake ...

And Tamati v Dowling?

canefan

@booboo said in NRL 2024:

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

Was that " Big Joe Row Party. They're cutting us to pieces and they're doing it with all the skill in the world ... " / Darrell Eastlake ...

And Tamati v Dowling?

Tamati Dowling is so iconic, I can't remember if I saw it on TV at the time, or as a young fulla later. But I'd guess that incident was later, either late 70s or early 80s?

I remember O for Olsen and his toe hack, I remember Bailey's team beating the Oz in Melbourne (?) in 1991 as I was in first year uni and we made a makeshift stand in the hostel TV room, and of course who could forget Billy Slater's brain explosion that helped us win the RLWC?

booboo

@canefan said in NRL 2024:

@booboo said in NRL 2024:

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

Was that " Big Joe Row Party. They're cutting us to pieces and they're doing it with all the skill in the world ... " / Darrell Eastlake ...

And Tamati v Dowling?

Tamati Dowling is so iconic, I can't remember if I saw it on TV at the time, or as a young fulla later. But I'd guess that incident was later, either late 70s or early 80s?

I remember O for Olsen and his toe hack, I remember Bailey's team beating the Oz in Melbourne (?) in 1991 as I was in first year uni and we made a makeshift stand in the hostel TV room, and of course who could forget Billy Slater's brain explosion that helped us win the RLWC?

There was the Dean Lonergan shuiQ1ffle in 87 iirc

canefan

@booboo said in NRL 2024:

@canefan said in NRL 2024:

@booboo said in NRL 2024:

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

Was that " Big Joe Row Party. They're cutting us to pieces and they're doing it with all the skill in the world ... " / Darrell Eastlake ...

And Tamati v Dowling?

Tamati Dowling is so iconic, I can't remember if I saw it on TV at the time, or as a young fulla later. But I'd guess that incident was later, either late 70s or early 80s?

I remember O for Olsen and his toe hack, I remember Bailey's team beating the Oz in Melbourne (?) in 1991 as I was in first year uni and we made a makeshift stand in the hostel TV room, and of course who could forget Billy Slater's brain explosion that helped us win the RLWC?

There was the Dean Lonergan shuiQ1ffle in 87 iirc

1991 Bob Bailey's team. Tawera Nikau, McCracken, Lonergan, Todd, Freeman, Blackmore. I once walked up and shook Dean's hand in a bar, mentioned that amazing game. The big fulla was very sporting

@canefan I remember hearing that during the Tamati fight with Greg Dowling, that the cameras never filmed Dowling getting a pasting from Tamati who had been a champion boxer.

canefan

@SBW1 said in NRL 2024:

@canefan I remember hearing that during the Tamati fight with Greg Dowling, that the cameras never filmed Dowling getting a pasting from Tamati who had been a champion boxer.

Bovidae

The crowd in Hamilton was just over 13K.

Windows97

@Bovidae I didn't even know it was on - and I live in Hamilton and park across the road of the stadium for work...

There was 0 publicity for this event.

canefan

@Windows97 said in NRL 2024:

@Bovidae I didn't even know it was on - and I live in Hamilton and park across the road of the stadium for work...

There was 0 publicity for this event.

That is poor, considering the goodwill for league that the Warriors built up this year. And it's the Kangaroos so should have been a big draw in the Tron

nzzp

@Nepia said in NRL 2024:

@canefan said in NRL 2024:

I can't ever recall us blanking the kangaroos in a test. Real danger of that now

We did it in 2005. 24-0. I knew in the back of my mind there was one, glad that wiki exists.

That was a ridiculous performance at Elland Road in Leeds. I was there! Weird thing - soccer stadia don't let you drink in the stands - so you buy some beers to take to your seat, and the stewards make you scull them to get into the ground.

Very low turnout, didn't expect NZ to be competitive, and we smoked them. Was awesome to watch.

kiwiinmelb

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

I remember as a very young kid , being at my grandparents house in ellerslie with my cousins and aunties,

And the old man and my uncles rolling in the doors celebrating, full of beers , they went to the game.

The old man talked about it for years .

antipodean

@bayimports you'd think in a competently run organisation, that would alternate each year.

bayimports

@antipodean said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports you'd think in a competently run organisation, that would alternate each year.

You would like to believe in an equitable set up, but with each team getting a chance request matchups Im guessing Melbourne were unlikely to budge

ACT Crusader

@bayimports said in NRL 2024:

@antipodean said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports you'd think in a competently run organisation, that would alternate each year.

You would like to believe in an equitable set up, but with each team getting a chance request matchups Im guessing Melbourne were unlikely to budge

I think it’s a case of the NRL (and Storm) wanting that direct presence here in Melb on one of the AFLs biggest days. Not that the ground, crowd or occasion can directly compete, but more so the NRL being in Melb where there is so much activity already.

bayimports

@ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports said in NRL 2024:

@antipodean said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports you'd think in a competently run organisation, that would alternate each year.

You would like to believe in an equitable set up, but with each team getting a chance request matchups Im guessing Melbourne were unlikely to budge

I think it’s a case of the NRL (and Storm) wanting that direct presence here in Melb on one of the AFLs biggest days. Not that the ground, crowd or occasion can directly compete, but more so the NRL being in Melb where there is so much activity already.

For me that is not good enough, presence is one thing, but I do think to get the most out of the relationship it needs to work both ways. I would have thought a NZ home game in Rugby territory would have been also of value if they actually cared about expanding (where it is not PNG).

kiwiinmelb

@ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports said in NRL 2024:

@antipodean said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports you'd think in a competently run organisation, that would alternate each year.

You would like to believe in an equitable set up, but with each team getting a chance request matchups Im guessing Melbourne were unlikely to budge

I think it’s a case of the NRL (and Storm) wanting that direct presence here in Melb on one of the AFLs biggest days. Not that the ground, crowd or occasion can directly compete, but more so the NRL being in Melb where there is so much activity already.

My understanding the nrl are also keen for the storm to keep that timeslot as well for broadcasting , Sydney game through the day , melb at night .

If the warriors want to play at home that will also work with the in between time .

Nepia

I think I'm in the other camp on this than most.

There was a lot of mana in that game, it had a good following, was against one of the top teams in the comp. Instead we're now playing the Titans ... who the fuck cares, I couldn't even name half their squad most years.

I think a better thing for George to push for was a similar locked in game in NZ on another occasion (Matariki/indigenous round etc), and build that up.

kiwiinmelb

@African-Monkey said in NRL 2024:

@kiwiinmelb 1983? We beat them 19-12 at Lang Park?

Haha my dad always talks about that 1971 game, says he sat on the dirty bank behind the posts with his dad.

I remember Gary Kemble picked up an injury, and lowe picked Nicky Wright , the otahuhu fullback out of auckland club football and he was outstanding,

Joe ropati on the wing , i played against him in junior league

ACT Crusader

@bayimports I don’t disagree with that, but I’d say they would make more money with the game her than in Auckland, especially with whatever Super rugby game is going on also.

bayimports

@ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2024:

@bayimports I don’t disagree with that, but I’d say they would make more money with the game her than in Auckland, especially with whatever Super rugby game is going on also.

Perhaps, it averages around 23k for last couple of years in attendance and I am sure that could have been matched this year in NZ. While I tend to agree with you longer term of commercial viability there is not a lot of evidence due to lack of games played to support that theory either.

I do agree they would want the Storm to play the evening game (no matter with who they are playing, because the Roosters/Dragons have cemented the afternoon spot, however that does open the door for NZ to also play in the gap.

I am not excited to play the Titans either and I am surprised other teams weren't up for it.

@nepia I dont mind your idea either, play Melbourne in Melbourne for Anzac if there is a return leg on Matariki, allows for both to make an occasion out of it, currently I dont think NZ has historically got a good deal out of any relationship

bayimports

thinking about it a little bit more, given NRL is all about tribalism and rivalry I would be looking for new relationships to build grudge matches on ANZAC, Matariki and Indigenous rounds

ACT Crusader

@bayimports said in NRL 2024:

thinking about it a little bit more, given NRL is all about tribalism and rivalry I would be looking for new relationships to build grudge matches on ANZAC, Matariki and Indigenous rounds

Other than the Storm who I do think we have built a decent rivalry over many years, I always thought we could build one against Manly.

Titans could be a potential. When I went to a Titans home game (the Warriors weren’t playing) and it was probably 75% kiwis there anyway

canefan

@ACT-Crusader Warriors Broncos was always a fun rivalry. I remember Campion decking Webcke during one ill tempered game at Mt Smart

bayimports

@canefan said in NRL 2024:

@ACT-Crusader Warriors Broncos was always a fun rivalry. I remember Campion decking Webcke during one ill tempered game at Mt Smart

I agree we have had some really close games against the Broncos, would be good if we could get some traction with another team with a large supporter base like them as well