Springboks

@mohikamo same, same.

@W32 my ou Ouma was not a Smuts. She was just a young girl, like a lot of other young boer children, who was placed in a concentration camp.

Chose Smuts as a handle because it’s a nickname we used to give guys who bitched and moaned. Can’t remember why we used Smuts for whingers. But it works:

“Fucking porridge for breakfast again? Aah man, it’s cold and lumpy.” “Shut up Smuts.”

“Fucking one eyed ref screwed us again.” “Fuck off Smuts - you blew a three man overlap.”

“It’s colder than a witch’s tit. I’m freezing my ballas af.”

“Shut up Smuts, you wanted to go skiing.”

Seemed fitting as a South African joining a kiwi forum.

@OomPB asablief Oom, moenie Malan in die selle asem as Smuts, Spiere en Pieter-Stef se nie. [please don’t say Malan on the same breath as Smuts, Spiere and PSDT, UnclePB]

@Smuts Sappe vs Natte. Way back in the past. My broer het verongeluk by Kloovenburg. Vrou het gewerk by die Kelders , Piet Spiere was die voorsitter en het saam my broer gedien op die rugbyklub. Good old days.

@OomPB said in Springboks:

@Smuts Sappe vs Natte. Way back in the past. My broer het verongeluk by Kloovenburg. Vrou het gewerk by die Kelders , Piet Spiere was die voorsitter en het saam my broer gedien op die rugbyklub. Good old days.

Bloody hell, I just about understood that. Must be longterm Oom-mosis.

@nostrildamus love to read your translation.

@Smuts said in Springboks:

@nostrildamus love to read your translation.

My brother had a --don't know what this is but sounds bad -- at Kloovenburg (is by a preposition or a village?). Not sure 'Vrou' is my Frau? Worked with Piet Spiere (who was a boss?) at my brother's rugby club?

Those 3 words got me confused, but am I roughly on target? Oh, don't know 'gedian'.

@nostrildamus not bad. Kloovenburg is the family farm of Piet Spiere, grand dad of PSdT. Kloovenburg.com

Vrou = Mrs.

The Springboks must play more games in London than any other city these days.

It’s a nothing fixture

Not the one to be played on neutral territory

SFM is building a new record. 2 tries already before HT

AE changed into a flanker.

@sparky we struggled for ages to win away from home.

and we have so many chicken runners all over the world, so it's all home games.

It finished 61-7 to South Africa.

Only 22,000 turned up. If it had to happen in England, Vicarage Road in Watford or the Madejski Stadium in Reading would have been better venues for this game.

@sparky said in Springboks:

It finished 61-7 to South Africa.

Only 22,000 turned up. If it had to happen in England, Vicarage Road in Watford or the Madejski Stadium in Reading would have been better venuese for this game.

Makes a lot of sense have a game in the uk as a warm up for the other matches to come. Players already there from last weekends urc games and pounds instead of rands. As for the venue, maybe but do we know what all the details are?

@W32 To be fair, both the venues I mentioned had soccer games this afternoon.

Wilco Louw had his best game. Bit worried about Ox. Viking, SMZ, Wilco and KLA should start against the French.

Players not featuring since last WC
Am
Mapimpi
Kok
Faf
Bongi
Malherbe
Fourie
Le Roux
Vermuelen
Kitshoff
Think also sous on his way out.

I’m sure I’m missing other.s. The big question is if Siya will make it to the next WC … and who will be the new captain?

@W32 said in Springboks:

Players not featuring since last WC
Am
Mapimpi
Kok
Faf
Bongi
Malherbe
Fourie
Le Roux
Vermuelen
Kitshoff
Think also sous on his way out.

I’m sure I’m missing other.s. The big question is if Siya will make it to the next WC … and who will be the new captain?

Plenty of these players have featured since the last World Cup. Do you mean players from the last RWC that weren't used in November?

@Mr-Fish said in Springboks:

@W32 said in Springboks:

Players not featuring since last WC
Am
Mapimpi
Kok
Faf
Bongi
Malherbe
Fourie
Le Roux
Vermuelen
Kitshoff
Think also sous on his way out.

I’m sure I’m missing other.s. The big question is if Siya will make it to the next WC … and who will be the new captain?

Plenty of these players have featured since the last World Cup. Do you mean players from the last RWC that weren't used in November?

I guess I should rephrase, these players seem to be being phased out. Could be wrong about that, but with many new players being more prominent it seems the writings on the wall. Not that it’s a bad thing, in fact it’s a better team now than when they lifted the 23 WC

Looks like Australia in pool A with the bokke for 27 WC. The aussies will be hard to beat at home that’s for sure

@W32

I dont think it is quite like that.
It is not like a tennis draw; where the 1st and 2nd cedes are kept apart until the final.

Australia is in Pool A for sure, and they are a 2nd Band team.
The 1st Band teams are drawn at random into Pools A to F.
So any Band One team could be matched with the Aussies in Pool A

As far as the draw goes, the winners of Pools A B E are on oneside, C D F on the other.
If the bokke are in A B or E, and the blacks are in C D or F; and if they both win thru, they can only meet in the final.

Conversely; if the bokke and blacks are drawn into pools A & B, or into C & D; and they both win thru, they will meet in a quarter-final.

The random nature of the draw probably makes it worth a watch.
I lot of teams will know whether they have any chance of winning on Dec 3, nearly two years out form the actual comp.
I think every team will be hoping to be on the opposite side to the boks, haha.

Or . . . it could turn out like 2019 when the boks lost in pool play, but it opened up the draw for them very nicely.

2025 was the best year for the Springbokke. Credit to the coaching staff who strengthen all areas of their game. More pleasing was the young crop of players like SMZ, Moody, Hooker, Grobbies, Nortje coming through while players like AE, Willemse, Reinach, Wilco Louw improve into world class players.

The Springbok supporters are spoiled, long may this continue.

I’d hoped that by this stage Rassie, Brownie & Co. Would have established Bok dominance in at least one more 1st phase. Will need to pull fingers out to gain comprehensive dominance at lineouts, kickoffs & dropouts before ‘27.

Springboks’ confirmed 2026 fixtures
Nations Championship
4 July: vs England, Ellis Park, Johannesburg
11 July: vs Scotland, Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
18 July: vs Wales, Kings Park, Durban
Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry
22 August: vs All Blacks, Ellis Park, Johannesburg
29 August: vs All Blacks, Cape Town Stadium, Cape Town
5 September: vs All Blacks, FNB Stadium, Johannesburg
12 September: vs All Blacks, TBC
Nations Championship
6-8 November: vs Italy, TBC
13-15 November: vs France, TBC
21 November: vs Ireland, TBC

Lood de Jager out again with an injury and will likely miss this years internationals. Feel for him, a really talented player who has had so many issues with different injuries and hasn't fulfilled his potential for the springboks.

Ben Smith could be onto something here. But, then again maybe too much wishful thinking...
What a delightful little troll he is.

@W32 I like a good troll of you Jaapies, but that's just gratuitous.

@booboo said in Springboks:

@W32 I like a good troll of you Jaapies, but that's just gratuitous.

Indeed. Smacks of desperation. Perhaps he is looking at the recent panic in the NZRU, prospective coach after prospective coach saying they are not interested in the poisoned chalice and doing his own little panic. Those deep seated night terrors of large biltong eating men holding forth are sure to bring out the insecurity in the little man.

Intesting series on the way the Bok coaches see the game.

SA franchises in the middle of the local derbies. The closest you get to trials like in the old days. Some good young talent coming through. Pretty sure Rassie will pull in a few of them in 2026. The standouts so far are Jaco Jooste (Sharks), Haashim Pead (Lions) , Paul de Villiers (Stormers), Bathobele Hlekani (Lions)

If I have to select a younger Springbok team it will be Fassi/Willemse, Jooste, Moodie, AE, Hooker, SMZ, Pead, Roos/Elrich Louw/Hanekoms, Hlekani/BJD, Escom/de Villiers, RG, Nortje, Wilco Louw/Portchen, Grobbies, Steenekamp/Mchunu