Rugby League - Kiwis

Nepia

Kiwis lacking a finishing touch. We've had multiple sets in the 20 and can't get over.

mariner4life

Oh look, SJ is in charge of the attack and it's shit.

Haven't seen that before

Next week against Tonga will be a humdinger of a game. If we have any chance of defending this title we need to play ourselves into form against Tonga. If Tonga beat us they could even make the final on points differential.

Nepia

22-10 final score to the Roos.

Kiwis actually did a bit better than what I thought we would when I saw the named 17.

We still need an actual second half though. Nikorima in at 6, CNK to centre in place of Hiku, move Timoko back to his side.

Stacey seemed a bit stubborn not bring Nikorima earlier and at 6. I love CNK but he's not a 6 and he didn't get into the game.

@SBW1 I doubt Tonga can score the long range tries that the Roos did. I saw enough today to be confident for the Tonga game.

ARHS

Kini Tapine and Warbrick did some great things. Quite encouraging.

mariner4life

I think Australia are entitled to be a bit disappointed in today. A win under their belts already, and while they too are down a couple of troops, that's a team of origin players, while what was that kiwi team? And yet it was a 12 point win.

Mal is a shit coach. Lucked in to a generational Queensland team that he basically only had to stay put of the way and they would win.

ACT Crusader

We are on the rebuild and was good to see some of our younger players step up to test level.

The big name origin players for OZ had their moments but I was expecting a 20+ point drumming when I saw who they had

Nepia

Kiwis getting beaten like a redhead step child in front of a Tongan home crowd in Auckland.

canefan

It's men vs boys out there

ACT Crusader

Our defensive alignment and system is being exposed big time

ACT Crusader

A 60m try through the hands. Great support play and try.

We’ve come from 0-24 to 18-24.

ACT Crusader

Keanu has been awesome this second half.

ACT Crusader

Argghhh another great build up but we cough it up in the tackle.

ARHS

Wow, what a try Joseph Tapine!

ACT Crusader

What a try! Tapine

ACT Crusader

SJ and Keanu combining on the last brilliantly to get us going forward.

ACT Crusader

What a run. We are killing it down the right side.

canefan

What the fuck?! I stopped watching at 24-0

ACT Crusader

Papali’i has turned up in the second half. Running. With real venom.

canefan

What's with the lack of kicking game for the Kiwis in the red zone?

ACT Crusader

SJ with 2 bad 5th tackle decisions.

canefan

@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby League - Kiwis:

SJ with 2 bad 5th tackle decisions.

Kiwis had two chances to either kick into the in goal or kick a DG and do nothing. Tonga have one shot and slot it

ACT Crusader

I hate that we took that long range penalty.

ACT Crusader

Kick for the corner and then get in the red zone where we were dominant.

canefan

Then we had a repeat set and our winger kicked the DG attempt on zero tackle. Brainless

Watching on Channel 9 in Oz couldn't help notising the presence of Ivan Cleary and Andrew Webster who was wearing a Kiwis jersey. Wonder if these guys get the Kiwis coaching gig.

loved that
thought the tongans played the last 10 really well
i was thinking they were gassed but they recovered their composure and the kiwis lost theirs

If the Kiwis loose to the Kumuls won't that mean New Zealand is no longer a Tier 1 nation and because it will be Tier 2 Kiwis will be allowed to play Origin. Tonga would be getting near to Tier 1 after last night, and many of its Origin players would no longer be eligible.

kiwis took the tongans on at their own game
a bit silly, they feeling it now hehe
but made for a great watch
aussies wont do that
they'll just smother them with defence, at least 3 in every tackle and stop tongan go foward
the poms did that in the series last year, and just fristrated the fuck out of the tongans
very effective but not as good to view
even so, i think the tongans can still win next week

not surprised the tongans won against the kiwis, and wont be suprised if they win next week v aus
international league really starting to be something
even png and fiji are going pretty good, and samoa looked ok v poms last night
and CI are sort of competitive
a bit of a levelling out, get used to it i think
shits all over a like rugby union comp

state of origin should have nothing to do with international play
so long as the player was a NSW or qld junior is all that should matter
that would actually take SOO to an even higher level than it is now
genuine all star series, still with acid

Nepia

@mohikamo said in Rugby League - Kiwis:

kiwis took the tongans on at their own game

If playing with only one half and having an off the chart error rate is playing the Tongans at their own game then sure.

But the reality is we were just shit, that was a terrible performance. We shouldn't have let them get 24 points ahead of us and when we did level up we should have won it.

And we should have played a guy who had a good season at 6 instead of a guy who had an ok season at fullback. That was a fucking stupid coaching decision, I love Stacey the player but he can't coach for shit.

All our reputation forwards were shit in the first half. They all performed better in the second.

We made Tui look good for half a match. Tui FFS.

Oh and I don't for one second think that our weakened team was an excuse for that. We had the players to win, that's why we got within 1 point of the win.

shits all over a like rugby union comp

Cuz, you're in the wrong forum for that shitfight, you might need to find a league forum for that. International league is way behind international rugby. We could barely put together a halves combo. That doesn't happen in international rugby. This comp is so mickey mouse it doesn't even have all teams in it playing every weekend. Not to mention the competitive of it is down to NRL deciding arbitrarily who can or cannot play origin.

@Nepia

agree with most of what you say

we played shit in the first half, but still could have won, we were great for most of the 2nd
but in the final 10 minutes of the tongans were more composed, more professional than us
that surprised me, wouldn’t have happened in the old days, we’d have finished them off, no prob
the tongans are really good, they’d have a really good in union team too, if they were allowed

agree stacy fucked this up, just didn’t wanna say it
the winning game plan was to smother defence them, at least three in every tackle, peel off slowly, don’t let the tongans get any momentum, frustrate them
the aussies will do that next week
like a rush defence in union

as soon as I saw the kiwi team sheet I thought tonga was going to win
I think we are guna have to get used to “weakened” teams
all those PI players are gone for good, even tho most of them are still technically qualified for nz
way more PI players in the NRL than kiwi
the only consolation is I think the aussies are permanently “weakened” a little too
wouldn’t be surprised if the aussies got beat next week
the SOO situation needs to be sorted, although the players seem to be doing that with their feet already

I said a “like” union comp: like nz/aus/fij/sam/tong/png/ci
union cant do anything near as like competitive
the majority of the players come from the NRL
the NRL is the highest standard rugby comp in the world (league or union)
their next casting deal will be north of a billion per year, more even than french T14
I think the NRL players get the same match payments no matter what international team they play for
Imagine if union did something like that, you’d double the amount of world champ contenders

Union is my game, but I like the direction league is heading
Cant say the same about union
Lots of mickey mouse crap in union too
Only 5 or 6 international teams are legit contenders
Poms just played ABs in a nothing match . . . and the ABs got nothing, just expenses (and the W) . . . how f’d up is that!

Do the Kiwis and Kumuls face off at Commbank in Sydney on Sunday? A number of players this year pledged to play Origin, which really didn't help this year.

Higgins

Is this guy eligible for the Kiwis?

Facebook post

Watching Channel 9 news here in Queensland, there was a brief segment on the Kiwis with an interview with Scott Sorenson and caption saying the Kiwis were fighting relegation to Tier 2.

Nepia

@mohikamo said in Rugby League - Kiwis:

I said a “like” union comp: like nz/aus/fij/sam/tong/png/ci
union cant do anything near as like competitive
the majority of the players come from the NRL
the NRL is the highest standard rugby comp in the world (league or union)
their next casting deal will be north of a billion per year, more even than french T14
I think the NRL players get the same match payments no matter what international team they play for
Imagine if union did something like that, you’d double the amount of world champ contenders

Union is my game, but I like the direction league is heading

You say that "union" is your game but you've rolled out pretty much verbatim what the leaguies say when they want troll rugby.

The 6 Nations and even the flawed RC are way more competitive than the PC. There's no comp this weekend but there's a whole lot of competitive rugby matches happening in the NH and they'll be played before far bigger crowds than what the PC can muster. The top tier of this comp has one team close to it's top team and that's Tonga.

The NRL being the "highest standard rugby comp" in the world doesn't mean much when it's a localised comp. It's not like Superleague is suddenly going to take over Europe and replace their three pro comps.

way more PI players in the NRL than kiwi

This is only true if you don't consider NZ PIs Kiwi.