Glen Phillips was a star in India and like a few others decided to go on holiday since then. Couldn’t catch a flu currently and gets more runs from Sri Lankan street food than off the bat.
Hope form comes back soon
On the plus side. What a massive series for Jake Duffy. Has to play in the one dayers. Him, Henry and O'Rourke as the primary seamers. Phillips could be the man in danger of missing out. Weather looking shit in Wellington for the first game of the series on Sunday.
@Chris having seen more of him than me, and being a coach, I am interested in your thoughts on Foulkes. From the little I have seen he looks to be struggling to control the inswing (which seems a lot more pronounced than many bowlers going around at the moment) and as such I get the feeling it is hurting his confidence and rhythm. I got the same feeling when I have watched him bowling for Canterbury.
I wonder if a kid like him would be better suited to clocking up the miles in the longer game where he could learn about his bowling without the immediate pressure of the limited over game? I also think this could help his batting - I recall McMillan saying a couple of seasons ago he thought Foulkes was a better batter than bowler, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Foulkes looks to have some promise, but I would hate to see his confidence destroyed.
@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Chris having seen more of him than me, and being a coach, I am interested in your thoughts on Foulkes. From the little I have seen he looks to be struggling to control the inswing (which seems a lot more pronounced than many bowlers going around at the moment) and as such I get the feeling it is hurting his confidence and rhythm. I got the same feeling when I have watched him bowling for Canterbury.
I wonder if a kid like him would be better suited to clocking up the miles in the longer game where he could learn about his bowling without the immediate pressure of the limited over game? I also think this could help his batting - I recall McMillan saying a couple of seasons ago he thought Foulkes was a better batter than bowler, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Foulkes looks to have some promise, but I would hate to see his confidence destroyed.
I pretty much agree with everything you posted.
I feel Zac is being mishandled atm,He has an in swinger which moves off the pitch but can also move late and a long way in the air.
He really was a batter first who bowled a bit and has real potential as a bat.
Learning his trade in the international t20 world is a harsh school for a bowler,especially being thrown in as a death bowler it is going to impact his confidence and his ability to use his attacking skills with the ball.
He could develop in to a very good player in all forms but he does need time in the longer form even ODIs would help.
Foulkes is in danger of being misused and a talented player ruined in a short time.
Not much room for a bowler to operate in t20s which is inclined to make you very defensive not ideal for learning about you game.
Auckland in the shit, but a good opportunity for Bevan Jacobs to bat time against an international bowling attack (Canterbury)
Good opener from Auckland called Guptill. Really taking it to Canterbury. Certainly showing Jacobs a trick or two. Jacobs has hit two very good sixes. Has been a bit hit and miss apart from those shots. Currently 22 off 16.
@SouthernMann 53 off 33 for Jacobs looks promising on paper
So ODI squad changes. Foulkes, Jacobs and Robinson out. Latham, Young and O'Rourke in for the ODIs I think.
Straight swap O'Rourke for Foulkes and Latham for Robinson. I suppose Latham will take the gloves, Young will fit in for Hay, or maybe they keep Hay and drop Chapman? Bracewell missing out for Smith quite likely too .
Should be able to put together a decent team out of the bits available.
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
So ODI squad changes. Foulkes, Jacobs and Robinson out. Latham, Young and O'Rourke in for the ODIs I think.
Straight swap O'Rourke for Foulkes and Latham for Robinson. I suppose Latham will take the gloves, Young will fit in for Hay, or maybe they keep Hay and drop Chapman? Bracewell missing out for Smith quite likely too .
Should be able to put together a decent team out of the bits available.
Weather is rubbish in Wellington, so will be interesting to see if we get a game tomorrow. I'd go for this team if it does go ahead. 1. Ravindra 2. Young 3. Chapman 4. Latham/Mitchell 5. Latham/Mitchell 6. Bracewell 7. Santner 8. Smith 9. Henry 10. Duffy 11. O'Rourke. Latham always bats in the middle order. The other option is to play him or Mitchell at three, bring in Phillips at five. I'd take Mike Bracewell initially ahead of GP, he has a better one day record with both bat and ball. Batting line up could be a bit weak should a few wickets fall early.
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
Phillips form has fallen away alarmingly. I hope he finds some and soon.
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
Yeah I know Hay is still with the squad which is why I said so 
. Didn't realise that he hadn't done much domestically in one day stuff but thought that it might be an opportunity to give a guy a chance, and some experience. You are correct of course, we don't do that...
I like both Bracewell and Phillips, given their role, so don't have a real preference, but as has been said GP is out of form. Those two Bracewell innings were gems, and I still think of the one for Welly at Pukekura (a postage stamp, but 140 odd off about 65 was great viewing).
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
Yeah I know Hay is still with the squad which is why I said so
I like both Bracewell and Phillips, given their role, so don't have a real preference, but as has been said GP is out of form. Those two Bracewell innings were gems, and I still think of the one for Welly at Pukekura (a postage stamp, but 140 odd off about 65 was great viewing).
Beautiful spot but you wonder if they should have cricket there.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a scoring shot that isn’t 1,4 or 6.
Going to be bloody cold at the Basin today. I haven't seen any rain at my place in the Hutt yet, but suspect it is coming. Might be a stop start game with rain delays. Somewhat regretting buying a ticket
From the looks of the forecast there should be enough time to get a full game in, although might be tight, in some ways an early rain break, to shorten the first innings would be ideal, since there will definitely be enough time for 50-60 overs, but maybe not 70 overs.
Will be freezing!
Good old Wellington Summer. I have the hoodie and jeans on today.
I’m glad they’re playing at a proper cricket ground rather than in front of hoards of empty seats at the stadium
The sound is crap for the anthems. Reminds me of the old days at Lancaster Park with the parlophone type 'speakers'.
I'm heading in about halfway through the first innings. Going for a well layered approach. Had too many cold days at cricket games. Apparently it is a sell out, will be interesting to see how many will just say stuff it.
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
I'm heading in about halfway through the first innings. Going for a well layered approach. Had too many cold days at cricket games. Apparently it is a sell out, will be interesting to see how many will just say stuff it.
That’s pretty good for Sri Lanka !
Hopefully for the games sake it’s one of those shitty but not shitty enough to call off the cricket type days.
Great review from the BCs there. Original decision overturned and Asalanka is gone for a duck.
23/4
We’re in the 10th over too, very slow scoring as well as wickets tumbling
As the commentators have just mentioned WOR hasn’t even bowled yet !
Why isn't O'Rourke bowling full here, instead of short of a length? Seems obvious to me he's just making it easy to get away, so am I being dim?
SL all out for 178.
Should be pretty comfortable but with the Black Caps ya never know.
Assuming Young and Ravindra will be opening ?
Solid start. 30/0.
I forgot Young had such a good ODI record. No wonder he’s had loads of chances at test level.
@MN5 said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Solid start. 30/0.
I forgot Young had such a good ODI record. No wonder he’s had loads of chances at test level.
If you look at his match record though he hasn't actually had much chance to play the top teams:
You can't really blame him though, he can only play the teams he is given a chance to play against.
@LABCAT said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Solid start. 30/0.
I forgot Young had such a good ODI record. No wonder he’s had loads of chances at test level.
If you look at his match record though he hasn't actually had much chance to play the top teams:
You can't really blame him though, he can only play the teams he is given a chance to play against.
Yeah some genuine minnows in that bunch.
Looking assured now though although some dodgy unnecessary running from these two which they don’t need to do when in this much control.
Shit it was cold down there. The coldest day I've had at the cricket since being at Carisbrook as a kid.
A few prods and mishits now, Young clearly eying a hundred, he’ll have to finish with a boundary
Too late now, not enough runs. Chapman not interested in blocking out overs to let young.get the ton. Seems fairly unusual these days for that to happen.
Henry player of the match? 4/19 are excellent numbers. Nice innings from Young but absolutely zero pressure throughout that innings.
@Cyclops said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Henry player of the match? 4/19 are excellent numbers. Nice innings from Young but absolutely zero pressure throughout that innings.
Wickets and economy.
I’d give it to Henry
ODI cricket is still bloody good value. We hammered them today but much more room for ebbs and flows than 20/20s. Long may the format continue
I'm late as usual but excellent win today. Right call for Henry as player of the match with 4/19 off 10 - absolutely savage figures. Good on Young though, 90no is a solid day's work - score was enough that it could have been troublesome, and instead the BCs just blasted past it.
I am even later on this, but a very professional performance from the Black Caps.
I took my eldest boy (11) to the game, and it was fucking freezing lol, but thankfully having grown up in Wellington and having memories of freezing my tits off at the Basin I booked us tickets up in the Museum stand so we had some shelter from that insane southerly. My boy hasn't taken a lot of interest in any sports to date in his life, but this year he's taken an interest in cricket and he loved seeing them play live, which warms my heart.
On the game, Henry and Young the obvious stand out performers. Echo the sentiments above, Henry MOTM by miles as bowling in that wind with strong gusts that throw your runup off is a nightmare, his control in those conditions was absolutely world class. I thought the other bowlers went short far too often, the majority of the Sri Lankan runs came from short deliveries.
Ravindra and Young looked very assured as an opening partnership, they got us away to a very fast start with little risk. Ravindra once again looked world class until he got himself out, again. That's his biggest work on; other sides have not found any obvious weakness in his game, he just gets over confident and throws it away. If he can show even half the application and concentration that Kane does he'll end up with a fantastic record.
Young showed why leaving him out for Conway against England was an absolutely absurd decision. As talked about during the Indian series, he's really refined his technique and has a much better feel for where his off stump is now, so is not getting nicked out the way he was earlier in his career.
On Sri Lanka, their body language went to shit in the field pretty quickly. They really didn't enjoy that cold southerly and once Young and Ravindra got a good start it became a bit of a formality.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Ravindra once again looked world class until he got himself out, again. That's his biggest work on; other sides have not found any obvious weakness in his game, he just gets over confident and throws it away.
The weakness I see in his game he is getting caught on short of a length deliveries where he is getting stranded a bit and drives at it when he should leave it or play off the back foot to keep control of his shot,just a lack of judgement on length.
It gets him caught behind the wkt or square he just seems to get in to a scoring zone and needs to pull back on certain deliveries.
He has all the goods to be World Class just needs to learn to change gears at times.