@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
So the young fulla Jacobs doesn't get a go in any of the T20s?
Reminds me of the ABs....
It's the perfect method to protect old players positions in the team. Get in blackcaps squad, don't play, but also can't play for your province, so no pressure goes on your place.
It stopped Matt Henry replacing Southee when he surpassed him about 5 or more years ago, but it took Boult's retirement to actually finally get in the team.
Colour me 0% surprised to hear that commentators observed the current blackcaps coaching / warm-ups to be lackadaisical.
@Rapido said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
So the young fulla Jacobs doesn't get a go in any of the T20s?
Reminds me of the ABs....
It's the perfect method to protect old players positions in the team. Get in blackcaps squad, don't play, but also can't play for your province, so no pressure goes on your place.
It stopped Matt Henry replacing Southee when he surpassed him about 5 or more years ago, but it took Boult's retirement to actually finally get in the team.
Yeah but think of the experience they gain by being in the environment and not playing
@Canes4life said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Foulkes is getting done here.
He was poor.
NZ are going to have to bat well, but these are the type of games they need to improve. Time for Ravindra to step up.
Sri Lanka make 218. Gettable on this ground but the likes of Ravindra will need to contribute today.
@Bovidae said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Canes4life said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Foulkes is getting done here.
He was poor.
NZ are going to have to bat well, but these are the type of games they need to improve. Time for Ravindra to step up.
Lol touché
I feel like Bracewell and Mitchell are going to be big in this game again after the new ball fades.
Thushara looked like he was taking a bite out of the ball before bowling.
Sri Lankans certainly love that slinging action, can’t be good on the shoulders.
Some good bowling from him but a good start so far from NZ
@MN5 said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Sri Lanka drop a couple of absolute screamers. Very tough chances.
That one on the boundary would have been one of the best ever if he managed to haul it in.
Binura looks just like Princes bass player in the 80s.
Gets a wicket too, possibly inevitable due to all the hitting out
@chchfanatic said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Is chapman the worst player to ever play for NZ. Why haven’t they given Jacobs a go.
Shit no.
@chchfanatic said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Is chapman the worst player to ever play for NZ. Why haven’t they given Jacobs a go.
Our 10th highest run getter in T20 cricket. Has played some cracking innings for NZ.
Glen Phillips has been a missing in this series far to expensive with the ball and failing with the bat.
Squeaky bum time for NZ, probably should have paid Hasaranga a bit more respect and play each ball on its merit.
@Canes4life said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Bracewell coming in now is a good thing. He will love this small ground.
And he smokes one and they pull off a specey.
Well done NZ reaching 200, but needed one of our bigger names to be at the crease for the late overs. Good win SL. Entertaining game at least
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@chchfanatic said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Is chapman the worst player to ever play for NZ. Why haven’t they given Jacobs a go.
Our 10th highest run getter in T20 cricket. Has played some cracking innings for NZ.
Built almost entirely on games outside of NZ
His record in NZ is poor.
Missed opportunity to have a look at Jacobs
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
Missed opportunity to have a look at Jacobs
And now Jacobs isn't involved in the ODIs.
All of the top/middle order had at least one substantial score (40+) except Phillips.
Glen Phillips was a star in India and like a few others decided to go on holiday since then. Couldn’t catch a flu currently and gets more runs from Sri Lankan street food than off the bat.
Hope form comes back soon
On the plus side. What a massive series for Jake Duffy. Has to play in the one dayers. Him, Henry and O'Rourke as the primary seamers. Phillips could be the man in danger of missing out. Weather looking shit in Wellington for the first game of the series on Sunday.
@Chris having seen more of him than me, and being a coach, I am interested in your thoughts on Foulkes. From the little I have seen he looks to be struggling to control the inswing (which seems a lot more pronounced than many bowlers going around at the moment) and as such I get the feeling it is hurting his confidence and rhythm. I got the same feeling when I have watched him bowling for Canterbury.
I wonder if a kid like him would be better suited to clocking up the miles in the longer game where he could learn about his bowling without the immediate pressure of the limited over game? I also think this could help his batting - I recall McMillan saying a couple of seasons ago he thought Foulkes was a better batter than bowler, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Foulkes looks to have some promise, but I would hate to see his confidence destroyed.
@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Chris having seen more of him than me, and being a coach, I am interested in your thoughts on Foulkes. From the little I have seen he looks to be struggling to control the inswing (which seems a lot more pronounced than many bowlers going around at the moment) and as such I get the feeling it is hurting his confidence and rhythm. I got the same feeling when I have watched him bowling for Canterbury.
I wonder if a kid like him would be better suited to clocking up the miles in the longer game where he could learn about his bowling without the immediate pressure of the limited over game? I also think this could help his batting - I recall McMillan saying a couple of seasons ago he thought Foulkes was a better batter than bowler, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Foulkes looks to have some promise, but I would hate to see his confidence destroyed.
I pretty much agree with everything you posted.
I feel Zac is being mishandled atm,He has an in swinger which moves off the pitch but can also move late and a long way in the air.
He really was a batter first who bowled a bit and has real potential as a bat.
Learning his trade in the international t20 world is a harsh school for a bowler,especially being thrown in as a death bowler it is going to impact his confidence and his ability to use his attacking skills with the ball.
He could develop in to a very good player in all forms but he does need time in the longer form even ODIs would help.
Foulkes is in danger of being misused and a talented player ruined in a short time.
Not much room for a bowler to operate in t20s which is inclined to make you very defensive not ideal for learning about you game.
Auckland in the shit, but a good opportunity for Bevan Jacobs to bat time against an international bowling attack (Canterbury)
Good opener from Auckland called Guptill. Really taking it to Canterbury. Certainly showing Jacobs a trick or two. Jacobs has hit two very good sixes. Has been a bit hit and miss apart from those shots. Currently 22 off 16.
@SouthernMann 53 off 33 for Jacobs looks promising on paper
So ODI squad changes. Foulkes, Jacobs and Robinson out. Latham, Young and O'Rourke in for the ODIs I think.
Straight swap O'Rourke for Foulkes and Latham for Robinson. I suppose Latham will take the gloves, Young will fit in for Hay, or maybe they keep Hay and drop Chapman? Bracewell missing out for Smith quite likely too .
Should be able to put together a decent team out of the bits available.
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
So ODI squad changes. Foulkes, Jacobs and Robinson out. Latham, Young and O'Rourke in for the ODIs I think.
Straight swap O'Rourke for Foulkes and Latham for Robinson. I suppose Latham will take the gloves, Young will fit in for Hay, or maybe they keep Hay and drop Chapman? Bracewell missing out for Smith quite likely too .
Should be able to put together a decent team out of the bits available.
Weather is rubbish in Wellington, so will be interesting to see if we get a game tomorrow. I'd go for this team if it does go ahead. 1. Ravindra 2. Young 3. Chapman 4. Latham/Mitchell 5. Latham/Mitchell 6. Bracewell 7. Santner 8. Smith 9. Henry 10. Duffy 11. O'Rourke. Latham always bats in the middle order. The other option is to play him or Mitchell at three, bring in Phillips at five. I'd take Mike Bracewell initially ahead of GP, he has a better one day record with both bat and ball. Batting line up could be a bit weak should a few wickets fall early.
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
@SouthernMann said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:
@SouthernMann Wondered if they might keep Hay, in which case Latham could open if not keeping. Get Young in at 3 and drop Chapman. Maybe get Ravindra down the order one and open with Young and Latham. Anyway, they can have them as the top 3 if they use Hay which looks a bit better at the top to me (even if a bit weaker further down, but the runs "should" come further up in principle).
You're probably right re GP / Bracewell but GP does seem to be the "finisher" in the side so they might stick with him.
Bummer about the weather and tomorrow looks worse.
Mitch Hay is still with the squad. I'd just be surprised if they take Latham away from the role he has had with the team for the majority of his career. Hay is still a bit inexperienced in one day cricket. Still only averages 20ish for Canterbury. As for Bracewell v Phillips. The two best finishing one day innings from NZ players in one day cricket over the last few years have come from Bracewell. His 127 v Ireland saved our arse from a first ever loss against them. While his 140 v India had us within 12 runs of chasing 350. Some interesting options for the selection group.
Phillips form has fallen away alarmingly. I hope he finds some and soon.
