All Blacks XV 2025

Crazy Horse

My eyes might be deceiving, but I am not convinced Tangitau is a fast as we think.

ARHS

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@Grooter yeah if we are willing to overlook a wingers lack of pace...

Plus, Tangitau can be taught new.systems and hopefully learn, Reece ain't getting faster, ever.

And maybe he can be taught how to force the ball properly too

taniwharugby

@ARHS not like Abs havent had that issue...

nostrildamus

@brodean said in All Blacks XV 2025:

ETS should be in the ABs squad for sure. Tangitau is a defensive liability.

So Tangitau would fit in well then.

nostrildamus

@Grooter said in All Blacks XV 2025:

Tangitau is a 14 point swing type of player we cannot leave the Ferrari in the garage for too much longer

Sounds like someone who never had to pay for the maintenance...

nostrildamus

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV 2025:

My eyes might be deceiving, but I am not convinced Tangitau is a fast as we think.

Not so sure, there's some fairly slow thinkers on here.

nostrildamus

@WoodysRFC said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@pakman said in All Blacks XV 2025:

With Beehre promoted XV very low on locks?

A veritable shortage.

Who's next in line and available, Haig? McWhannel? Or does Howden just wear the 19 jersey going into the next game.

Against Scotland? You meant Laghlan McWhannell? They'd appreciate someone with the name that came to mean 'the unruly clans'.

Against England A, considering Beehre called up to the main squad - and yeah apologies, I'll take an L there.

Bones

@ARHS said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@Grooter yeah if we are willing to overlook a wingers lack of pace...

Plus, Tangitau can be taught new.systems and hopefully learn, Reece ain't getting faster, ever.

And maybe he can be taught how to force the ball properly too

Hopefully not by Ioane or Jordan.

@pakman said in All Blacks XV 2025:

With Beehre promoted XV very low on locks?

My understanding is he is just training cover for the week with the All Blacks. Could still be released to play xv. Although actually I highly doubt that

Tim

What other locks are available? Antonio Shalfoon? Or is he injured?

jimmyb

Funny how at the start of the year with no injuries, lock was probably the position with the most depth. We are being exposed for not developing enough young players behind Whitelock and Retallick over the last 3-4 years. Holland, Lord, and Darry will need as much test match exposure as possible

canefan

@jimmyb said in All Blacks XV 2025:

Funny how at the start of the year with no injuries, lock was probably the position with the most depth. We are being exposed for not developing enough young players behind Whitelock and Retallick over the last 3-4 years. Holland, Lord, and Darry will need as much test match exposure as possible

Lord did okay on the weekend. Holland and Darry have shown they can do a job

nostrildamus

@jimmyb said in All Blacks XV 2025:

Funny how at the start of the year with no injuries, lock was probably the position with the most depth. We are being exposed for not developing enough young players behind Whitelock and Retallick over the last 3-4 years. Holland, Lord, and Darry will need as much test match exposure as possible

We couldn't develop Holland earlier., and Lord and Darry have had injuries.

Mr Fish

@Trig said in All Blacks XV 2025:

@pakman said in All Blacks XV 2025:

With Beehre promoted XV very low on locks?

My understanding is he is just training cover for the week with the All Blacks. Could still be released to play xv. Although actually I highly doubt that

Just three days, I believe.

Bovidae

@Tim said in All Blacks XV 2025:

What other locks are available? Antonio Shalfoon? Or is he injured?

Not many options back in NZ. McWhannell has been unavailable since Rd 1 of the NPC, and likely would have been in the original squad if fit.

The two locks left are replacements themselves. Howden would have to be the backup lock for the England A game.

sparky

Apparently the England A game is set to sell out Ashton Gate.