All Blacks v Springboks I

Chris
Chris11 months ago
#253

@gt12 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Chris said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

It all points to the only changes for Saturday will be Lomax back in the 23 and a change at HB if Ratima is ruled out.

Edit
and if that is the case and the ABs lose massive meltdown all over the place.

Pretty deservedly so if they roll out the same team and get humped at Eden Park. TBH, there should be have big conversations about the whole coaching team in that case.

However, if they roll out (roughly) the same team and the team beats the Boks, it should take a lot of pressure off the coaching team.

Ballsy.

If that happens then any flak will be well deserved.

reprobate11 months ago
#254

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The recent All Blacks social media injury update post states Clarke is only available for the second South Africa test. Does that guarantee Ioane on the left wing and Proctor at centre this week?

That gets my goat that injury update - a guy is only available to play in 2 weeks time when he's already back playing? If he's not right, he shouldn't be playing. If he is right, he's available.

SBW111 months ago
#255

LF coming into the squad as injury cover.

Canes4life
Canes4life11 months ago
#256

@reprobate said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The recent All Blacks social media injury update post states Clarke is only available for the second South Africa test. Does that guarantee Ioane on the left wing and Proctor at centre this week?

That gets my goat that injury update - a guy is only available to play in 2 weeks time when he's already back playing? If he's not right, he shouldn't be playing. If he is right, he's available.

He looked in pretty good nick yesterday, get him out there ffs. This is not a stab at Clarke because if he had the choice, I'm sure he would jump at the chance to play on Saturday, but how soft have the All Blacks become?

Razor's response to last week's loss against the Argies summed up the limp nature of this side atm. Instead of getting all available players on the park in the latest round of the NPC, he felt they needed a week off, time with their families to reset etc etc... fuck that. Most of the players just had a month off prior to the RC, unless injured, all players should have been on the paddock playing for their provinces. Clearly some players are short of gallop and would benefit with more time on the field. Some of these ABs have had far too much time not playing rugby lately.

ShaquilleOatmeal
ShaquilleOatmeal11 months ago
#257

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@reprobate said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The recent All Blacks social media injury update post states Clarke is only available for the second South Africa test. Does that guarantee Ioane on the left wing and Proctor at centre this week?

That gets my goat that injury update - a guy is only available to play in 2 weeks time when he's already back playing? If he's not right, he shouldn't be playing. If he is right, he's available.

He looked in pretty good nick yesterday, get him out there ffs. This is not a stab at Clarke because if he had the choice, I'm sure he would jump at the chance to play on Saturday, but how soft have the All Blacks become?

Razor's response to last week's loss against the Argies summed up the limp nature of this side atm. Instead of getting all available players on the park in the latest round of the NPC, he felt they needed a week off, time with their families to reset etc etc... fuck that. Most of the players just had a month off prior to the RC, unless injured, all players should have been on the paddock playing for their provinces. Clearly some players are short of gallop and would benefit with more time on the field. Some of these ABs have had far too much time not playing rugby lately.

Preston was lined up to play and was pulled because they expect he'll be needed this week. When was the last time he saw any significant game time?

Canes4life
Canes4life11 months ago
#258

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@reprobate said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The recent All Blacks social media injury update post states Clarke is only available for the second South Africa test. Does that guarantee Ioane on the left wing and Proctor at centre this week?

That gets my goat that injury update - a guy is only available to play in 2 weeks time when he's already back playing? If he's not right, he shouldn't be playing. If he is right, he's available.

He looked in pretty good nick yesterday, get him out there ffs. This is not a stab at Clarke because if he had the choice, I'm sure he would jump at the chance to play on Saturday, but how soft have the All Blacks become?

Razor's response to last week's loss against the Argies summed up the limp nature of this side atm. Instead of getting all available players on the park in the latest round of the NPC, he felt they needed a week off, time with their families to reset etc etc... fuck that. Most of the players just had a month off prior to the RC, unless injured, all players should have been on the paddock playing for their provinces. Clearly some players are short of gallop and would benefit with more time on the field. Some of these ABs have had far too much time not playing rugby lately.

Preston was lined up to play and was pulled because they expect he'll be needed this week. When was the last time he saw any significant game time?

100%, there’s always a risk that a player gets injured, that’s just the nature of the game. The downside of them not playing is they’ll be undercooked if called upon. Case in point with Preston. Let’s hope Clarke gets another game for Auckland this week, better to have him getting minutes under his belt than just sitting on the sideline scratching his nuts.

sparky
sparky11 months ago
#259

The side I'd pick is

  1. De Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. S. Barrett
  5. Holland
  6. Vaii
  7. A. Savea
  8. Sititi
  9. K. Preston
  10. DMac
  11. C.Clarke
  12. J. Barrett
  13. R. Ioane
  14. W. Jordan
  15. R. Love
  1. Taukei'aho
  2. T. Williams
  3. Lomax
  4. S. Darry
  5. S. Parker
  6. Lakai
  7. Christie
  8. Tupaea
Torian
Torian11 months ago
#260

@sparky I actually do think Beauden still has top value as a bench player, saved our bacon last year at Eden Park against England. Not overly excited when he is named to start tho

sparky
sparky11 months ago
#261

Robertson claims "some parts of our game have been awesome."

What parts would those be?

Chris
Chris11 months ago
#262

@sparky said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The side I'd pick is

  1. De Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. S. Barrett
  5. Holland
  6. Vaii
  7. A. Savea
  8. Sititi
  9. K. Preston
  10. DMac
  11. C.Clarke
  12. J. Barrett
  13. R. Ioane
  14. W. Jordan
  15. R. Love
  1. Taukei'aho
  2. T. Williams
  3. Lomax
  4. S. Darry
  5. S. Parker
  6. Lakai
  7. Christie
  8. Tupaea

Love at FB I am not sure that is a good idea you are throwing him in to a high pressure high ball game it might ruin his confidence.A hell of a big game to throw him in to.
A big call sink or swim scenario.

Kirwan
Kirwan11 months ago
#265

Leicester Faingaʻanuku? lol, not even hiding it anymore.

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Victor Meldrew
Victor Meldrew11 months ago
#268

@mohikamo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

Kevin de Klerk wouldn't last more than a few minutes on a rugby field to-day.

Pretty sure he was the bloke who hit Sid Going from behind. Showed a fair burst of speed when Sid turned around and went after him.

kiwiinmelb
kiwiinmelb11 months ago
#269

@Chris said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@sparky said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The side I'd pick is

  1. De Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. S. Barrett
  5. Holland
  6. Vaii
  7. A. Savea
  8. Sititi
  9. K. Preston
  10. DMac
  11. C.Clarke
  12. J. Barrett
  13. R. Ioane
  14. W. Jordan
  15. R. Love
  1. Taukei'aho
  2. T. Williams
  3. Lomax
  4. S. Darry
  5. S. Parker
  6. Lakai
  7. Christie
  8. Tupaea

Love at FB I am not sure that is a good idea you are throwing him in to a high pressure high ball game it might ruin his confidence.A hell of a big game to throw him in to.
A big call sink or swim scenario.

If he s good enough, how long do you keep him in cotton wool ?

Unless of course they don’t think he’s good enough, different story

But sometimes I think this conservative attitude we seem to have developed when it comes to selection is part of our downfall

taniwharugby
taniwharugby11 months ago
#270

@kiwiinmelb yep, our 'safe' options seem to be holding us back and hindering our development.

KiwiMurph
KiwiMurph11 months ago
#271

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Chris said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@sparky said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The side I'd pick is

  1. De Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. S. Barrett
  5. Holland
  6. Vaii
  7. A. Savea
  8. Sititi
  9. K. Preston
  10. DMac
  11. C.Clarke
  12. J. Barrett
  13. R. Ioane
  14. W. Jordan
  15. R. Love
  1. Taukei'aho
  2. T. Williams
  3. Lomax
  4. S. Darry
  5. S. Parker
  6. Lakai
  7. Christie
  8. Tupaea

Love at FB I am not sure that is a good idea you are throwing him in to a high pressure high ball game it might ruin his confidence.A hell of a big game to throw him in to.
A big call sink or swim scenario.

If he s good enough, how long do you keep him in cotton wool ?

Unless of course they don’t think he’s good enough, different story

But sometimes I think this conservative attitude we seem to have developed when it comes to selection is part of our downfall

Ruben Love is 24. 3 years older than Max Jorgensen and 2 years older than Suaalii. He played well vs France 3rd test.

gt12
gt1211 months ago
#272

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@Chris said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

@sparky said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

The side I'd pick is

  1. De Groot
  2. Taylor
  3. Newell
  4. S. Barrett
  5. Holland
  6. Vaii
  7. A. Savea
  8. Sititi
  9. K. Preston
  10. DMac
  11. C.Clarke
  12. J. Barrett
  13. R. Ioane
  14. W. Jordan
  15. R. Love
  1. Taukei'aho
  2. T. Williams
  3. Lomax
  4. S. Darry
  5. S. Parker
  6. Lakai
  7. Christie
  8. Tupaea

Love at FB I am not sure that is a good idea you are throwing him in to a high pressure high ball game it might ruin his confidence.A hell of a big game to throw him in to.
A big call sink or swim scenario.

If he s good enough, how long do you keep him in cotton wool ?

Unless of course they don’t think he’s good enough, different story

But sometimes I think this conservative attitude we seem to have developed when it comes to selection is part of our downfall

Ruben Love is 24. 3 years older than Max Jorgensen and 2 years older than Suaalii. He played well vs France 3rd test.

Agreed. These guys aren't exactly Toeava pulled out of NPC at 19 after a half dozen bench appearances and one start.