Who should be AB captain?

Nepia

@brodean said in Who should be AB captain?:

@Kiwiwomble said in Who should be AB captain?:

encouraging to see a few people agreeing quite quickly, do we think there is any chance he'll captain the midweek games in RSA?

I think he's a chance to be a first choice lock in the test side in which case he wouldn't be playing in the mid week team but I guess we will see.

Based on what we had with Whitelock and Retallick I like the concept of having two 2m+ locks. It could be any combo of Holland, Darry, and Lord with Vaa'i, Tuipulotu and Barrett backing up.

That works if the two best locks are 2m+ locks. If they're not then it's silly to select an inferior player on height alone.

@Nepia said in Who should be AB captain?:

@brodean said in Who should be AB captain?:

@Kiwiwomble said in Who should be AB captain?:

encouraging to see a few people agreeing quite quickly, do we think there is any chance he'll captain the midweek games in RSA?

I think he's a chance to be a first choice lock in the test side in which case he wouldn't be playing in the mid week team but I guess we will see.

Based on what we had with Whitelock and Retallick I like the concept of having two 2m+ locks. It could be any combo of Holland, Darry, and Lord with Vaa'i, Tuipulotu and Barrett backing up.

That works if the two best locks are 2m+ locks. If they're not then it's silly to select an inferior player on height alone.

Of course. For me I think we have probably seen the best of Tuipulotu and Barrett. I'm not convinced Vaa'i is better than any of Lord, Darry or Holland. They all have their strengths and weaknesses but they're all strong options.

I don't like the way Vaa'i carries on some times. He can be a bit of a pelican which is a shame because he could have potentially been an option for captain. Similar to Itoje.

frugby

@brodean Kevin Pietersen is that you?

Bones

Was going to suggest Aumua as a smokey, but bloody hell I didn't realise how old he is!

Darry looking very promising.

EdG prolly worth a look.

Fuck it, just announce Barnes as Ardie's successor after tomorrow's game.

Yeah EdG has potential.

canefan

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

MN5

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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canefan

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

KiwiMurph

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

You also said can't be a back....

MN5

@KiwiMurph said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

You also said can't be a back....

He's got you there @canefan

canefan

@KiwiMurph said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

You also said can't be a back....

As in I prefer the future captain not to be a back based on the current crop.

canefan

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@KiwiMurph said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

You also said can't be a back....

He's got you there @canefan

See above . Context is important

MN5

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@KiwiMurph said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Well played Sir. I did say mostly though….

You also said can't be a back....

He's got you there @canefan

See above . Context is important

pfffft......Semantics.

canefan

That was intense, for a minute or two…

MN5

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

That was intense, for a minute or two…

.....anyway, back on topic. Looking forward to Cam Roigard being named skipper. Failing that Jordie, would be good to have three AB captains in the family.

sparky

Cam Roigard.

sparky

@MN5 1987 and 1991 Rugby World Cups were won by teams captained by half backs.

George Gregan, Agustin Pinchot and Gareth Edwards all captained their countries with distinction in the Number 9 jersey.

nostrildamus

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@canefan said in Who should be AB captain?:

It can't be a back. Our best captains, in my lifetime, are mostly found in the backrow. Not sure we have anyone who is a nailed on starter other than Ardie who is obvious captain material right now

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Never realised how young you were

Oh I thought @canefan was automatically blacklisting Canes players...

Nailed on starters (and ideally playing more than 40-50 minutes) are...

MN5

@sparky said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 1987 and 1991 Rugby World Cups were won by teams captained by half backs.

George Gregan, Agustin Pinchot and Gareth Edwards all captained their countries with distinction in the Number 9 jersey.

Doesn't matter. If you'd read the thread you'd know that @canefan said it can't be a back.

nostrildamus

@MN5 said in Who should be AB captain?:

@sparky said in Who should be AB captain?:

@MN5 1987 and 1991 Rugby World Cups were won by teams captained by half backs.

George Gregan, Agustin Pinchot and Gareth Edwards all captained their countries with distinction in the Number 9 jersey.

Doesn't matter. If you'd read the thread you'd know that @canefan said it can't be a back.

Well, a back who has played for the Canes...

Happy with Ardie til WC27 then perhaps Roigard thereafter.

Bones

@Rugbyman said in Who should be AB captain?:

Happy with Ardie til WC27 then perhaps Roigard thereafter.

Don't be coy now, Roigard is even better than our (by far) best halfback ever. He should also be vice captain.