West Indies tour of NZ

Chris B.

Hope apparently had food poisoning. If we'd got another couple of wickets yesterday, maybe we wouldn't have had to deal with him at all, but he doesn't last long.

Eight down now and Roach might not bat.

Come on boys - knock them over and open up the chance of a result!

MN5

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

Hope apparently had food poisoning. If we'd got another couple of wickets yesterday, maybe we wouldn't have had to deal with him at all, but he doesn't last long.

Eight down now and Roach might not bat.

Come on boys - knock them over and open up the chance of a result!

Windies have done bloody well, I thought even with our depleted bowling stocks that the follow on would be well beyond them.

In saying that all this time they're hanging around is niggly and bloody annoying in terms of getting a result.

NZ will be doing very well to win from here.

Gunner

This partnership is getting niggly…
Come on, wrap this shit up!

Chris B.

Why are we bowling Phillips?

Surely Rae or Foulkes are more likely to knock Seales over quickly?

MN5

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

Why are we bowling Phillips?

Surely Rae or Foulkes are more likely to knock Seales over quickly?

Well, to his credit he pulled off a terrific boundary saver just then. He's an absolutely outstanding fielder. Probably best in the world.

Chris B.

@MN5 Stand him out on the boundary then to cut down the runs off Rae! 🙂

Chris B.

Duffy is carrying our attack, really.

Donsteppa

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

Duffy is carrying our attack, really.

I thought you were a bit optimistic wondering about Rae to knock over the tail before 🙂

Chris B.

@Donsteppa I think he's more likely to do it than Phillips.

Unless the pitch deteriorates markedly in the next 24 hours, though, I don't see where another 10 wickets are coming from.

Hooray - Jeetan gets Seales. Will Roach bat?

Chris B.

My boy Rae comes on and finishes Roach! 🙂

Have a rest for a few hours lads.

So, according to me we need to bat normally for about a session and then play increasingly aggressively for another session. Set them about 400 in 3.5 sessions and hope to knock them over cheaply.

Chris B.

Not a bad mop up job this morning - 39/4.

They won't have Roach to bowl so hopefully some hay to be made.

Donsteppa

Sun hasn't really emerged consistently this morning to bake out the pitch for tomorrow. Ajaz will be looking at it with interest though from another day of wear.

MN5

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

My boy Rae comes on and finishes Roach! 🙂

Have a rest for a few hours lads.

So, according to me we need to bat normally for about a session and then play increasingly aggressively for another session. Set them about 400 in 3.5 sessions and hope to knock them over cheaply.

It's a pretty harsh truth that he is more than likely playing his last test.

I've really liked his attitude and he has shown he belongs at this level. In pretty much any other era he would have had a long career but dare I say it there is some depth in NZs fast bowling stocks and a host of good players to come back.

Chris B.

@MN5 Yeah - rankings probably something like:

Henry
Jamieson
O'Rourke
Duffy (he's been impressive and jumped up the list)
Sears
Tickner
Fisher
Foulkes (can swing the ball a mile in the right conditions, but shades of Lance Cairns for me)
Rae

MN5

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

@MN5 Yeah - rankings probably something like:

Henry
Jamieson
O'Rourke
Duffy (he's been impressive and jumped up the list)
Sears
Tickner
Fisher
Foulkes (can swing the ball a mile in the right conditions, but shades of Lance Cairns for me)
Rae

Looks more or less right, Jamieson despite the incredible average just hasn't played enough to usurp Henry from the top of the list.

I'd probably rate Tickner ahead of Sears.

No Smith ?

Chris B.

@MN5 Forgot him - probably ahead of Fisher but, behind Tickner for me.

MN5

Yeah all fit and firing you'd have Henry, Jamieson and O'Rourke as lock ins with perhaps Smith and Foulkes battling for that "all rounder" spot.

But Jacob Duffy has been excellent, Tickner too in his brief appearance at the Basin.

Patel is obviously in the equation too, also Santner vs Phillips......

Once all are back and taking into account Raes age he'll go back in the wilderness which seems a shame.

I hope enough of them are fit for the tests next year.

Chris B.

@MN5 If Phillips plays, I reckon he needs to bat at 6.

At 7 he seems to think his job is to have a bit of a tonk, rather than playing as a proper batsman.

I'm not convinced either Smith or Foulkes are good enough batsmen to warrant playing them ahead of guys who are better bowlers.

If a pitch will assist spinners, I'd pick:

Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Santner, Jamieson, Henry, O'Rourke.

If it won't:

Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Jamieson, Henry, Duffy, O'Rourke.

MN5

@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:

@MN5 If Phillips plays, I reckon he needs to bat at 6.

At 7 he seems to think his job is to have a bit of a tonk, rather than playing as a proper batsman.

I'm not convinced either Smith or Foulkes are good enough batsmen to warrant playing them ahead of guys who are better bowlers.

If a pitch will assist spinners, I'd pick:

Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Santner, Jamieson, Henry, O'Rourke.

If it won't:

Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravindra, Mitchell, Phillips, Hay, Jamieson, Henry, Duffy, O'Rourke.

Same here. It seems to be a bit of a worldwide phenomenon to pick guys who are handy at both at the expense of guys who are better bowlers and/or batsmen.

The NZ squad seems to have quite a few of these.

I like your teams, Top five absolutely pick themselves. Conway has done more than enough this series to push Young down the pecking order. If Hay takes over fulltime and I hope he does soon then his record would indicate he should be batting at six with the option of Philips leap frogging him if quick runs are needed.

If either of your teams played I'm fairly sure NZ would have won the series 3-0 pretty easily.

canefan

Foulkes isn't fast enough or consistent enough, from what I've seen of him, to be effective outside swing and pitch friendly NZ