Fucking shithouse.
Really shit performance from us.
The missed kicks for touch really took the wind out of the ABs sails, especially the first one when ABs were so on top.
@Jet said in England Vs All Blacks:
I did not notice Ardie Savea out there today at all.
I know that is an over used trope.
But I have not noticed him at all.
How about Scott standing up as captain. Talk about doing sweet f all as well.
Razor really needs to start making some tough calls.
@akan004 said in England Vs All Blacks:
33-7 to England since the early lead.
None of the lessons of the Wellington meltdown were learned.
Sack the coach and the new guy selects what International quality players? Billy Proctor was the best player in Super Rugby and he’s not Test match standard
This is just a badly coached, badly selected team . just a total fucking joke. Shameful !!!!
@Tim said in England Vs All Blacks:
Fucking shithouse.
Really shit performance from us.
The media wont ask the questions we need them to ask.
Bryn Hall, Parsons, Ross Karl, Wilson, Mils, Kirst and Beav, Marshall, Tony Johnson. You all have a stake in this shit show.
Razor.......you absolute fucking moron.
Two coaches have walked under your tenure in 2 seasons.
Ruben Love clocking up air miles to watch Beauden Barrett do a rugby equivalent of Karaoke.
What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.
We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.
Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.
I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.
@Steven-Harris said in England Vs All Blacks:
Damage was done in the first half imo , we needed to put some distance between us and England
BB was just awful , should be his last ever test
It won't be his last under Razor though. Will probably be picked next week. Razor needs to go.
At least England deserved the win. They've got some good players and played decently well.
Taylor is the only player from the older generation that is worth his salt. BB, Savea, ALB, Scott Barrett all need to go. Jordie can stay for now.
It’s been 10 years of the same old shit. Zero composure
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
What to make of that. Some will point to Robertson and his coaching staff, but player for player we just aren’t that good. Our basic skills were poor all night, and have been all year. You can’t really blame the coaches for that.
We bemoaned Rieko last year, but his replacement is no better. We bemoaned Beauden, but McKenzie is hardly any better. Without Roigard we are absolutely fucked at the moment.
Injuries have forced us to try different players - and we have - and lone behold they aren’t better than those in front of them.
I don’t think Razor should be sacked, perhaps one or two of his assistants should be, but if we turn up to South Africa with these same players, we will lose 4-0, and I think that would be terminal.
If you sack one or 2 of his assistants that will be 4 assistants gone in 2 years.
Deck Chairs titanic etc.
The buck stops with him. HE knew he was getting the job for ages in advance.
He had loads of time to prep.
Flush the Razor dunny and move on. He is a beaten docket.
Sack @Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
Well done England, you didn't do much but you didn't have to.
Credit to Steve Borthwick. Bringing back George Ford was a brave call, but it was rewarded today.
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
Taylor is the only player from the older generation that is worth his salt. BB, Savea, ALB, Scott Barrett all need to go. Jordie can stay for now.
It’s been 10 years of the same old shit. Zero composure
Beauden Barrett was never composed, even at his peak. Once the juice in his legs went he should have been ushered off to Japan to earn yen for Hannah and co.
5 fucking years ago.
@Canes4life what tough calls??? He should just step down. Thats the only call to make. Worst AB side...the 3 worst performances I have ever seen. No passion...no heart...no gameplan.
@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
A new coach won’t fix our lack of basic skills.
The culture's not right. Where does the buck stop for that?