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22 Jordie Barrett
15 Cam Roigard
14 Tupou Vaai
12 Will Jordan
12 Simon Parker
10 Fabian Holland
10 Fletcher Newell
9 Codie Taylor
9 Leroy Carter
8 Peter Lakai
7 Patrick Tuipulotu
7 Samisoni Taukeiaho
6 Caleb Clarke
6 Quinn Tupaea
6 Damian McKenzie
5 Finlay Christie
5 Leicester Faingaanuku
4 Ruben Love
3 Josh Lord
3 Scott Barrett
2 Tamaiti Williams
2 Wallace Sititi
1 Ardie Savea
1 Samipeni Finau
1 Bill Proctor
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ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runs
Sititi, DMac, Love
Thought Sititi was very good.
Not perfect but Love a breath of fresh air.
Ref did well.
@booboo said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Samisoni
Wally
DutchyHonourable mentions:
DMac
Love
Rioane
ALB
Caleb
What did you see from Holland that you didn't from Parker? Other than obviously a few standard lineout takes.
Taukei’aho, DMac and Clarke, although a couple of bad missed tackles from the latter. ST did the hard carries.
For all the honorable mentions should probably add Tosi. Especially with an Ardie highlight reel play
@bayimports said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
For all the honorable mentions should probably add Tosi. Especially with an Ardie highlight reel play
I thought Ardie ran on fron the sideline to make that turnover!
Oh no wait, Tosi actually made the tackle first up as well......
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@bayimports said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
For all the honorable mentions should probably add Tosi. Especially with an Ardie highlight reel play
I thought Ardie ran on fron the sideline to make that turnover!
Oh no wait, Tosi actually made the tackle first up as well......
such a huge play from a 130kg plus unit on our try line better than our loosies
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runs
ALB played bloody well. Ran well, but his vision and passing really helped our outsides.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
DMac, Clarke and Sititi for me
I would have gone Clarke too, but he missed way too many tackles out there for me.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB played bloody well. Ran well, but his vision and passing really helped our outsides.
he used to be avery good player. his body betrayed him but he can sometimes do good things
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runs
ALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
@reprobate said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB is still a good player. He's not the most explosive
can be pretty combustible when it comes to cards in recent seasons...
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
ALB surprised me with his game. Clearly he's a starter or not at all in the 23.
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
ALB surprised me with his game. Clearly he's a starter or not at all in the 23.
Rieko too. Ran hard, tackled, even passed out to his winger
@Toddy said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Rieko was poor. Was it two bad defensive reads leading to two tries
No. If he hadn't turned in when Holland was coming across the attacker likely wouldn't have passed and his momentum would've got him well over the line.
The other I'd have to recheck - I think that's the one he turned in because it was the "world's best fullback" next to him.
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@Toddy said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Rieko was poor. Was it two bad defensive reads leading to two tries
No. If he hadn't turned in when Holland was coming across the attacker likely wouldn't have passed and his momentum would've got him well over the line.
The other I'd have to recheck - I think that's the one he turned in because it was the "world's best fullback" next to him.
Yep it looked bad, but it was odd that he was left marking last man both times, one of them he shouldnt have jammed in but the other was a 50/50
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
ALB surprised me with his game. Clearly he's a starter or not at all in the 23.
He always saves his best for the minnows. Was the best last year against what was virtually a Fiji Drua side last year in San Diego or wherever it was too.
1st one WJ had his man but Rieko panicked and came off his line. Was really poor defence - especially from an ex winger. He holds his line and makes the tackle there is no try.
2nd one - you're right that Wales are likely to score as Parker and Holland are too late to shift.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
ALB surprised me with his game. Clearly he's a starter or not at all in the 23.
He always saves his best for the minnows. Was the best last year against what was virtually a Fiji Drua side last year in San Diego or wherever it was too.
I'm not sure that only getting starts against the lower ranked teams constitutes saving your best for them...
@reprobate said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@canefan said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@MajorPom said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
ALB: calm focused head amongst headless chickens.
Wallace: everywhere
Samisoni: solid lineout and some good runsALB made some nice direct runs. Rieko too. We look more dangerous when we run straight and hard instead of sideways. What a surprise 🫢
ALB surprised me with his game. Clearly he's a starter or not at all in the 23.
He always saves his best for the minnows. Was the best last year against what was virtually a Fiji Drua side last year in San Diego or wherever it was too.
I'm not sure that only getting starts against the lower ranked teams constitutes saving your best for them...
ALB is either start or not in the 23 as he's shown repeatedly over the last few years he's not a good bench option
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@Toddy said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Rieko was poor. Was it two bad defensive reads leading to two tries
No. If he hadn't turned in when Holland was coming across the attacker likely wouldn't have passed and his momentum would've got him well over the line.
The other I'd have to recheck - I think that's the one he turned in because it was the "world's best fullback" next to him.
That was a poor read and he didn’t trust the inside (who had the ball carrier covered).
Other than those, he was pretty solid.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@Toddy said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Rieko was poor. Was it two bad defensive reads leading to two tries
No. If he hadn't turned in when Holland was coming across the attacker likely wouldn't have passed and his momentum would've got him well over the line.
The other I'd have to recheck - I think that's the one he turned in because it was the "world's best fullback" next to him.
They were poor reads and he didn’t trust the inside (who had the ball carrier covered).
Other than those, he was pretty solid.
As I pointed out, only one of them was suspect - the first was always going to be a try.
He defended well, supported ball carriers and distributed well. Quite frankly he played a very good game in a problematic position for the All Blacks.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@antipodean said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
@Toddy said in All Blacks MOTM v Wales:
Rieko was poor. Was it two bad defensive reads leading to two tries
No. If he hadn't turned in when Holland was coming across the attacker likely wouldn't have passed and his momentum would've got him well over the line.
The other I'd have to recheck - I think that's the one he turned in because it was the "world's best fullback" next to him.
That was a poor read and he didn’t trust the inside (who had the ball carrier covered).
Other than those, he was pretty solid.
While I agree that he should have stayed on his man, after watching it a couple of times I don't think it was conclusive at the time he turned in that WJ was going to get the attacker - he only really scragged him.
And 100% agree with your following post.