T20 World Cup

The Australians are paying the price for flat out ignoring form.

Of the best bats in the BBL which basically finished the day before they flew out, only Mitch Marsh played (and oh look he got runs). Finn Allen is obviously not a kiwi. Warner retired. For some dumb fucking reason they aren't playing Steve Smith. Sam Harper isn't there.

Cam Green is a complete myth. Tim David barely played. Inglis kicked his heels carrying drinks for the test team. Maxwell couldn't buy a run this summer. Stoinis did okay, especially given where they batted him, Connolly has failed at every single opportunity.

I am more surprised at their attack TBH, Ellis is a wizard, Zampa is usually very reliable. Bartlett is a proven performer in this format. Just a horrible tournament and perhaps a symptom that the Aussies don't care.

I think they care. Some of them though as you say aren't in great form and having Green and David at 3 and 4 seems crazy when you have Steve Smith available. Sri Lankan conditions probably don't suit either of those guys. The game I watched where they lost to Zimbabwe it looked as though they hadn't adapted to the slower wicket. Renshaw looked ok in that game but they didn't play him against Sri Lanka.

@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup:

The Australians are paying the price for flat out ignoring form.

Of the best bats in the BBL which basically finished the day before they flew out, only Mitch Marsh played (and oh look he got runs). Finn Allen is obviously not a kiwi. Warner retired. For some dumb fucking reason they aren't playing Steve Smith. Sam Harper isn't there.

Cam Green is a complete myth. Tim David barely played. Inglis kicked his heels carrying drinks for the test team. Maxwell couldn't buy a run this summer. Stoinis did okay, especially given where they batted him, Connolly has failed at every single opportunity.

I am more surprised at their attack TBH, Ellis is a wizard, Zampa is usually very reliable. Bartlett is a proven performer in this format. Just a horrible tournament and perhaps a symptom that the Aussies don't care.

they were on top this game as well, 97 runs after 8 overs no wickets down
only to blow it and lose all 10 at 7 runs an over
easily left another 3-40 runs

they picked Smith as the replacement for the injured Hazelwood but didnt pick him..

comes across as pure arrogance, they seemed to believe they could cruise through the pool games with who they have and save Smith for the bigger games

@Virgil said in T20 World Cup:

@Donsteppa said in T20 World Cup:

The journalist at the Herald has a few players or the NZCPA in his ear it would seem:

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no surprise, i mean what would they be getting paid to play Super Smash, $500 a game?

We must be the last major cricket nation without its own 'proper' T20 franchise comp
needs to happen, attract overseas players and maybe find a way to tie it in with the Big Bash (winner of each comp plays each other etc)
needs some serious financial backers of course

The financial backing bit is the interesting one to me. Unless they can get some serious money out of TV rights (and to do that, how much of it becomes developing NZ talent v another leg in the global IPL), I'm not sure that there's huge dollars left to extract from the NZ market.

That said, and back to topic, the game somehow is sustaining very regular T20 World Cups, so somehow it all must be paying for itself...

@Donsteppa said in T20 World Cup:

@Virgil said in T20 World Cup:

@Donsteppa said in T20 World Cup:

The journalist at the Herald has a few players or the NZCPA in his ear it would seem:

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no surprise, i mean what would they be getting paid to play Super Smash, $500 a game?

We must be the last major cricket nation without its own 'proper' T20 franchise comp
needs to happen, attract overseas players and maybe find a way to tie it in with the Big Bash (winner of each comp plays each other etc)
needs some serious financial backers of course

The financial backing bit is the interesting one to me. Unless they can get some serious money out of TV rights (and to do that, how much of it becomes developing NZ talent v another leg in the global IPL), I'm not sure that there's huge dollars left to extract from the NZ market.

That said, and back to topic, the game somehow is sustaining very regular T20 World Cups, so somehow it all must be paying for itself...

they mentioned on sports nation that cricket mad Indians will pretty watch any T20 league as long as its broadcast at a time that suits them. Think they used one of the lesser known leagues, Bangladesh, UAE? as an example of rapid growth in viewer numbers and value because of the huge Indian market.
They are that invested in cricket they will happily watch it, no matter where its set. Of course having star players they recognize will be important

BCs have a match against Canada coming up tonight.

Potential banana skin game ( as any 20/20 can be ) although I'm sure the SA result was a wake up call.

Canada ranked 19th, apparently played their first ever international match in 1844 ?!?!?

Players with surnames like Singh, Sharma and Dhaliwal indicate that maybe there isn't a hell of a a lot of homegrown talent.

Win and a spot in the Super 8 is guaranteed. Carn Caps !

@mariner4life said in T20 World Cup:

The Australians are paying the price for flat out ignoring form.

Of the best bats in the BBL which basically finished the day before they flew out, only Mitch Marsh played (and oh look he got runs). Finn Allen is obviously not a kiwi. Warner retired. For some dumb fucking reason they aren't playing Steve Smith. Sam Harper isn't there.

Cam Green is a complete myth. Tim David barely played. Inglis kicked his heels carrying drinks for the test team. Maxwell couldn't buy a run this summer. Stoinis did okay, especially given where they batted him, Connolly has failed at every single opportunity.

I am more surprised at their attack TBH, Ellis is a wizard, Zampa is usually very reliable. Bartlett is a proven performer in this format. Just a horrible tournament and perhaps a symptom that the Aussies don't care.

three runs off seven deliveries and didn't bowl.

He must have a hell of an agent.

@MN5 https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/cameron-green-1076713/matches

This list of recent matches pretty much dates back to him getting that "biggest ever" IPL contract.

Looks like it might be another case of the job/label being too big for the man.

Lockie and Satnav out - Satnav has food poisoning.

Jamieson and McConchie in (I think Mitch Jr said "Cole".

Surprised it's not Ish.

In what language does Neesham mean half volley?

Neesham is the ultimate reputation pick. He's been bowling pies for years

Atrocious bowling from Neesham

Neesh gets smoked - 18 off his first over.

Once again our opening bowlers have failed to make inroads in the power play.

We have the batting to challenge for the title, but our bowling is well short.

Better from Jimmy in his second!

Yeah, only two off the over, so back to 0/20 off two for the Neesh.

I never actually realised quite how bog standard Neeshes T20 stats actually are. I can’t believe he hasn’t even managed a half century in 96 matches. Only the 57 wickets at just under nine an over too…..

I've always assumed that the theory is we gain more runs from Neesham the batter than we lose from lose bowling. I think its worth it, especially when we have Ravindra and Phillips there too. Asking for 4 overs total between those guys doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Injuries and illnesses mucking us around, but Santner, Ferguson, Henry, Duffy plus the all-sorts looks decent enough.

I don’t see much of a bowling plan fromJacob Oram and the bowlers.
We are playing in India hit the pitch hard use some variations and let the ball die so you have to make pace on the ball and not come on.
Our lengths are really poor just bowling along the pitch letting the ball come on nicely so you can hit through the line with ease.
We should know better than this .

Our bowlers are taking some tap so far

This is grim stuff against a minnow. Crikey they need a breakthrough.

Mick Honky is quite the Celtic while guy name.

McConchie takes his turn in the smoker.

Mince and cheese all round..

It's weird it feels like they are getting absolutely tonked, but it's not exactly a RR to write home about.

Guess it is Canada, but they're probably better than Australia.

Great to see our bowling being taken apart by world heavyweights Canada..

This is laughable amateur hour.

Doesn't bode well for the rest of the tourney. Our bowlers are shit

@Gunner said in T20 World Cup:

Great to see our bowling being taken apart by world heavyweights Canada..

The CAN openers are killing us.

I’ll grab my coat.

Reckon just short of a length slightly outside off with no movement might be one to try.

Learnt nothing from the white ball series they played on the same pitches pre WC.

About time

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

Learnt nothing from the white ball series they played on the same pitches pre WC.

Keeping the powder dry?

Jamieson.

Well done fella, least shit bowler on display today

Kyle gets one as GP intercepts a ball that looked boundary-bound.

116/1

Can the pressure of needing to start quick derail the Canadian order?

@canefan said in T20 World Cup:

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

Learnt nothing from the white ball series they played on the same pitches pre WC.

Keeping the powder dry?

I don’t think they have any powder this is really poor it looks likes we have no idea how to bowl
In India.
Super 8 s could be embarrassing if we do not change our length especially and use more variations.

Slightly surprised they didn't play Sodhi. Pitch is obviously a belter. Anyone know what Canada's bowling is like?

Pace of Henry finally

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

@canefan said in T20 World Cup:

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

Learnt nothing from the white ball series they played on the same pitches pre WC.

Keeping the powder dry?

I don’t think they have any powder this is really poor it looks likes we have no idea how to bowl
In India.
Super 8 s could be embarrassing if we do not change our length especially and use more variations.

IIRC didn't we just win a limited overs series in India? Haven't we played an entire T20 series in India prior to T20WC?

@canefan said in T20 World Cup:

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

@canefan said in T20 World Cup:

@Chris said in T20 World Cup:

Learnt nothing from the white ball series they played on the same pitches pre WC.

Keeping the powder dry?

I don’t think they have any powder this is really poor it looks likes we have no idea how to bowl
In India.
Super 8 s could be embarrassing if we do not change our length especially and use more variations.

IIRC didn't we just win a limited overs series in India? Haven't we played an entire T20 series in India prior to T20WC?

Yes got smoked in the 20/20s but we did win the one day series.