@act-crusader said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Am I missing something on Hutchinson? I thought he was okay, but didn’t think he was a standout.
Try this little thought experiment, picture him in red and black instead of red, black, and yellow - then you'll see him standout ... 
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
2 things regarding halfbacks.
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
In regards to the little bit of chat around about Lennox. Rennie said that Lennox has a lot to work on before he’s in consideration. That isn’t really groundbreaking stuff but think a line can be put through him this year for those who thought he was a chance.
Rennie clearly hasn't received the Fern memo that no criticism of Super Cam is allowed.
@duluth said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
Is that important for a halfback?
Good to see he's getting the correct feedback. The running game is the cherry on top not his primary role
That’s exactly right. It might even help for him to take a ‘blind folding’ approach (a not really very good poker strategy) to running the ball at times to bring the other areas of his game up.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@reprobate tbf it is not always straight forward comparing stats of specific positions across different teams as teams.use players differently or game plans have them set up in different parts of the field setting them up for more/less carries/tackles...its more can the AB coaches see that player fitting in thier game plan.
Yep, but by the same token the coaches are selecting based on what they've seen, which is very much affected by the role someone is asked to play at the lower level - and while the stats on rucks+tackles+carries doesn't tell the whole story, it does provide some indication of overall work rate.
With STT I think everyone can see the raw power is the point of difference, but there's often an assumption of low work rate that goes with big fellas who hit hard and don't look much like endurance athletes - I don't think that's fair on him, I think he's got a pretty good motor.
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
2 things regarding halfbacks.
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
In regards to the little bit of chat around about Lennox. Rennie said that Lennox has a lot to work on before he’s in consideration. That isn’t really groundbreaking stuff but think a line can be put through him this year for those who thought he was a chance.
I’m not fussed on Lennox but he must be a fair way behind wity the current backup halfbacks who barely get on the field also having a lot of work to do.
@shaquilleoatmeal said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
2 things regarding halfbacks.
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
In regards to the little bit of chat around about Lennox. Rennie said that Lennox has a lot to work on before he’s in consideration. That isn’t really groundbreaking stuff but think a line can be put through him this year for those who thought he was a chance.
I’m not fussed on Lennox but he must be a fair way behind wity the current backup halfbacks who barely get on the field also having a lot of work to do.
Yup. I posted awhile ago he was really not a fan of the halfback cattle in NZ at the moment. To the point he wanted to bring a halfback playing overseas into the squad.
The Pledger injury really threw a spanner into their halfback plans.
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@shaquilleoatmeal said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
2 things regarding halfbacks.
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
In regards to the little bit of chat around about Lennox. Rennie said that Lennox has a lot to work on before he’s in consideration. That isn’t really groundbreaking stuff but think a line can be put through him this year for those who thought he was a chance.
I’m not fussed on Lennox but he must be a fair way behind wity the current backup halfbacks who barely get on the field also having a lot of work to do.
Yup. I posted awhile ago he was really not a fan of the halfback cattle in NZ at the moment. To the point he wanted to bring a halfback playing overseas into the squad.
The Pledger injury really threw a spanner into their halfback plans.
I wonder what this means for someone like Noah Hotham? He must really not rate him at this current stage if he's being left out for his backup at Super level.
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@shaquilleoatmeal said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
2 things regarding halfbacks.
Rennie wants Roigard to be quicker to the breakdown and wants him to work on his delivery, would like that to be quicker too.
In regards to the little bit of chat around about Lennox. Rennie said that Lennox has a lot to work on before he’s in consideration. That isn’t really groundbreaking stuff but think a line can be put through him this year for those who thought he was a chance.
I’m not fussed on Lennox but he must be a fair way behind wity the current backup halfbacks who barely get on the field also having a lot of work to do.
Yup. I posted awhile ago he was really not a fan of the halfback cattle in NZ at the moment. To the point he wanted to bring a halfback playing overseas into the squad.
The Pledger injury really threw a spanner into their halfback plans.
Pledger was in camp a couple of months ago too. I doubt an uncapped player who’s out injured for the whole year would be included if the coach had any confidence in the available options.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Could Pledger be the bolter?
Isn’t he out till 2027?
@oompb said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Every South African rugby players want to play the All Blacks. Meaning the franchises will have their strongest teams available. The URC lot is just starting their conditioning.
No one doubts the motivation, just wondering if the top players are available as that will make a difference to the quality of the games.
@shaquilleoatmeal he had his ACL repaired so he will probably be back late NPC I would think - I read he was training alongside Holland going jogging etc.
@african-monkey I though Hotham was good for ABs pre-injury last year but was surprised how poor he looked at times for the Crusaders this year - actually took notice of how bad his form was
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I assume the overseas player was Aaron Smith?
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@zinnyzinzin said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@shaquilleoatmeal he has ACL repaired so he will probably be back late NPC I would think - I read he was training alongside Holland going jogging etc.
I doubt he will play in the NPC. I reckon the focus will be getting him in too nick for 2027. He plays two or three games of NPC and suddenly there will be a push to get him on the EOYT. Just scratch him for the year, gives a clear path towards 2027.
On Lennox. It is always going to be difficult for him when an AB assistant coach is his former provincial coach and they rate a provincial battler/MLR player, Logan Crowley over him. I reckon Lennox's best chance is to become a 30 minute tempo lifter.
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I assume the overseas player was Aaron Smith?
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@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
picture him in red and black
are you aware he still plays for Canterbury? That's my boy but even I can admit that, for as exciting as he is, he's pretty raw around the edges for a guy being in test call-up discussions.
Hutchinson will not get picked he is still out for 5/6 weeks with his shoulder injury recovery expected to be back for Canterbury around Rd 5 or 6.
Who woulda thunk Rennie was one of the haterrrz. Way, way over the top by a guy who clearly has a bad habit and doesn't appreciate any good stuff.
Disgusting
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I assume the overseas player was Aaron Smith?
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Or Weber.
@bellsgeorg said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
picture him in red and black
are you aware he still plays for Canterbury? That's my boy but even I can admit that, for as exciting as he is, he's pretty raw around the edges for a guy being in test call-up discussions.
Yes, I was just helping @act-crusader conceptualise his Super form.
There's lots of raw around the edges players being discussed in the thread, especially in the bolter category.
I reckon Harkin could also cover wing in a pinch too, well worth looking at.
Hutchinson just made great decisions for a young fella, as well as exciting running, more than capable kicking and solid defence. A lot to be enthusiast about.
@kidcalder said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Surely TKB and TJP ship has long sailed.
Smith was a level above them back then and likely still is now.
I wouldn't mind if Smith came on board if injury strikes
If we're bringing back any of those oldies (34, 35, 37) then we may as well bring back Ma'a too. What's Kaino doing these days? 
@ruggersman said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I hope they pick Harkin, he has stepped up this year and at 28 he is at his peak. I think if they don't he will leave. I think he can be the replacement for BB now. 10/15 cover and probably a good bench player to cover those positions. Would like to see him play 15 against URC teams.
eyeball test reckon he's the best under the high ball in the Canes too
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I assume the overseas player was Aaron Smith?
There's at least one other ex AB 9 playing overseas, at the age of 35.
Edit: and a clue is he used to play for the Chiefs.
Double edit: I see I was beaten to it. Yup he's not Aaron Smith but he's also no Finlay Christie.
@zinnyzinzin said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@african-monkey I though Hotham was good for ABs pre-injury last year but was surprised how poor he looked at times for the Crusaders this year - actually took notice of how bad his form was
Based on Rennie’s feedback on the halfbacks as relayed helpfully by @landers92, Hotham will always struggle to get a look in because of his poor passing game (which Rennie seems to agree is quite important for a halfback).
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@landers92 said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
I assume the overseas player was Aaron Smith?
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TJP believe it or not
@frank said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Hotham is a very slow clearer of the ball. And then the pass itself is slow.
Reminds me of a young TJP, which makes it quite surprising DR isn't a fan after lander's news.
While I wasn't a fan of TJP in his latter years, even at his worst his pass was faster than the likes of Finlay Christie - and he has many other strengths to his bow. And Ratima has gone backwards since his debut. Still wouldn't want TJP back in the ABs.
Not sure in what capacity but Ma’a Nonu has joined the Sharks. Would be awesome if he lines up for them against the ABs.
@bellsgeorg said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@frugby said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
Mo'unga has a calf issue. Unclear how bad.
Word from earlier this week is that they're still expecting him to be fit for Round 1 against Auckland, but who knows with calf niggles
I think it’s all precautionary at this stage. But yeah should be good to go next weekend.
@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@bellsgeorg said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
picture him in red and black
are you aware he still plays for Canterbury? That's my boy but even I can admit that, for as exciting as he is, he's pretty raw around the edges for a guy being in test call-up discussions.
Yes, I was just helping @act-crusader conceptualise his Super form.
There's lots of raw around the edges players being discussed in the thread, especially in the bolter category.
I’ve seen him play at both levels and just don’t see it right now for a call up. Would take the Hurricanes kid or even JRK before even considering Hutchinson
@act-crusader said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@bellsgeorg said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
@nepia said in All Blacks Tour of South Africa 2026:
picture him in red and black
are you aware he still plays for Canterbury? That's my boy but even I can admit that, for as exciting as he is, he's pretty raw around the edges for a guy being in test call-up discussions.
Yes, I was just helping @act-crusader conceptualise his Super form.
There's lots of raw around the edges players being discussed in the thread, especially in the bolter category.
I’ve seen him play at both levels and just don’t see it right now for a call up. Would take the Hurricanes kid or even JRK before even considering Hutchinson
The kid from the Canes is closer to 30 than kid age, but wouldn't argue against him being a bolter, but JRK was cabbage this year.
Surely he's at least make "your" XV over those two, neither of them have played for Canterbury have they?
