Olympics Thread

#52

Baxymoron10 years ago

#52

Does anyone know what time the games will be on our time?

#53

Stargazer10 years ago

#53

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Does anyone know what time the games will be on our time?
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NZ times: 
 
The Rio Olympics website gives times between 2.00am and 10.00am on Sunday 7 & Monday 8 August (women) and Wednesday 10 & Thursday 11 August (men). On these days, the pool games, 9-12th place play-offs and Quarter Finals are played.
 
5th-12th place play-offs and Semifinals are played between 3.30am and 6.30am on Tuesday 9 August (women) and Friday 12 August (men).
 
The games for 7-8th place, 5-6th place, Bronze and Final are played between 8.30am and 11.00am on Tuesday 9 August (women) and Friday 12 August (men).
 
Schedule search:
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://ingressos.rio2016.com/rio2016.htm?token=7378283B123EB505E412A4D7A9E5F5C8&pass_through=hm38UCfAPaVlVI_frKubs1983Lh59tpL3yFvF4Gzm1aTsuiyhmi-rxAGBs2UmBgqIEwq6BSaFpNr NZKxRjuqF4uDNWQFlc12E1Ne3uCRTlezQPRqVb7n1a81rhs4p-XEnsroF5TmCYbvDmpQfpuhhg3i ovUgB9x5b-_3whXxHMEMbad5hbC07SpuFkJJ32JObhrDD-Cy6ZbuGirgfiM6EEpw_PDsGCNANZJH RXuYzsq2KRWzIfvxyKnAp0P3A5fJKpNM9bv_rm70VQkn6fUsXc5tSE9loyXsT0HjXQ7gQwE &affiliate=OGF&language=en'>https://ingressos.rio2016.com/rio2016.htm?token=7378283B123EB505E412A4D7A9E5F5C8&pass_through=hm38UCfAPaVlVI_frKubs1983Lh59tpL3yFvF4Gzm1aTsuiyhmi-rxAGBs2UmBgqIEwq6BSaFpNr NZKxRjuqF4uDNWQFlc12E1Ne3uCRTlezQPRqVb7n1a81rhs4p-XEnsroF5TmCYbvDmpQfpuhhg3i ovUgB9x5b-_3whXxHMEMbad5hbC07SpuFkJJ32JObhrDD-Cy6ZbuGirgfiM6EEpw_PDsGCNANZJH RXuYzsq2KRWzIfvxyKnAp0P3A5fJKpNM9bv_rm70VQkn6fUsXc5tSE9loyXsT0HjXQ7gQwE &affiliate=OGF&language=en</a>
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://smsprio2016-a.akamaihd.net/sport/T9NLlG/rio2016_spectator_guide_og_rugby_en.pdf'>https://smsprio2016-a.akamaihd.net/sport/T9NLlG/rio2016_spectator_guide_og_rugby_en.pdf</a> (Sevens spectator guide)
 
 
The match schedule hasn't been released yet. FYI, NZ is 15 hours ahead of Rio.

#54

Bovidae10 years ago

#54

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I expect to see Titch use the gameplan from Wellington round (minus Lam). That was very effective. Expect to see Akira appear on the wing more than Reiko, and Reiko to slice through holes in the midfield.
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Having said that, I'm not overly confident for Rio. I hope I'm wrong. We're really lacking the express pace of Fiji and SA so NZ will need to dominate the breakdown to be successful.

#55

KiwiMurph10 years ago

#55

Looks like timings are roughly the following:
 
Day 1 and 2 - 2am nz time = first game of the day, 9.30am nz time = last game of day
 
Day 3 - 3.30am nz time = first gamer of the day, gold medal game = 10am nz time.

#56

Stargazer10 years ago

#56

The Olympic Sevens match schedules have been released:
 
NZ Women â€“ draw in NZT:
 
Sun 7/8, 2.30am: v Kenya
Sun 7/8, 7.30am: v Spain
Mon 8/8, 2.30am: v France
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/stage/1671/fixtures'>http://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/stage/1671/fixtures</a>
 
 
NZ Men â€“ draw in NZT:
 
Wed 10/8, 3.30am: v Japan
Wed 10/8, 8.30am: v Kenya
Thu 11/8, 3.30am: v Great Britain
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/stage/1672/fixtures'>http://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/stage/1672/fixtures</a>

#57

KiwiMurph10 years ago

#57

Are those times meant to be AM Stargazer?

#58

Stargazer10 years ago

#58

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Are those times meant to be AM Stargazer?
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Ah, yes, I'll change that in my post. Thx.

#59

taniwharugby10 years ago

#59

Kurt Baker on not making the Olympics...
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11671571'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11671571</a>
 
Kurt Baker: 'I feel a bit used by All Blacks Sevens'
 
Kurt Baker has opened up about his shock omission from the New Zealand sevens squad to compete at the Rio Olympics, suggesting a personality conflict with coach Sir Gordon Tietjens may have played a bigger role than on-field form.
"I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist to work out I played every tournament this year and played more minutes than anyone else," Baker told Tony Veitch on Newstalk ZB.
"I definitely challenged him on certain issues. I think that's healthy in a rugby environment."
Baker, along with All Black Liam Messam, were the two key talking points of the New Zealand squad named last Sunday and the rugby community appeared more surprised by Baker's omission then Messam's.
 
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Highlanders forward Joe Wheeler, a former teammate of Baker, took to Twitter saying: "I'm no expert and have never played the game but Sir Gordon has had an absolute blowout!" Wheeler's Tweet was 'liked' by a number of high profile New Zealand players including Aaron Smith, Marty Banks and Jason Emery.
Baker said he was "peeved" by the situation.
"I felt a bit used during the season," he said. "I just think sometimes there is a bit of division between what the players think and what some of the management think."
Baker said it was disappointing the All Blacks didn't commit to the Olympic programme and suggested the current environment may be a factor in that.
 
"Yeah, I think it's quite sad those guys didn't feel comfortable in the sevens environment."
Karl Te Nana, a multiple Commonwealth Games gold medallist for New Zealand and one of the country's best sevens players, said he couldn't fathom the decision to drop Baker.
"I feel for him. I thought he'd done enough to warrant selection. He's our best stand-off and a huge piece that is missing from our line-up," Te Nana said.
"Kurt spoke about challenging Gordon Tietjens and I know, having played for him and captained for him over a long period, you have to choose your battles. I think with Kurt challenging Tietjens in front of teammates is probably not the place to do it."
Tony Veitch talks to Karl Te Nana:
Te Nana admits rumours have been swirling around for a number of months about a fractured sevens environment, which may have impacted on New Zealand's star All Blacks not committing to Rio.
"That's disappointing to hear, and our ethos on why the 15s guys would always like to come back is because of that environment.
"I mean, if the players are butting heads with the management and the 15-a-side guys say that, it's pretty disappointing."
Te Nana believes not picking Ben Smith, who was made available to Tietjens after the June series against Wales, is another big mistake.
"I'd love to have Ben Smith any day of the week. Five weeks is probably long enough for him to be introduced to the sevens campaign. With him and Kurt Baker, you would have a pretty good first-five combo."
Gordon Tietjens responds with Tony Veitch on NewstalkZB at 1pm today.

#60

booboo10 years ago

#60

Knowing absolutely nothing but this seems like sour grapes to me. I reckon he got dropped as he wasn't as good as the others. 
Reckon there's a bit of shit stirring going on here. 
Titch has delivered over years. He must know a bit about 7s. 
And I back him for not picking Ben Smith. 
And I'm convinced that Savea was given the word to drop out to make the ABs.

#61

taniwharugby10 years ago

#61

yeah you'd have to think given Titch success with a wide range of players over such a long period, if "rumours have been swirling around for a number of months about a fractured sevens environment" you would have to thnk it is more likely a player or players that have fractured the environment

#62

booboo10 years ago

#62

Listening to Baker and now Te Nana. 
Te Nana seems to be suggesting the Baker shat in his own nest. Overdoing the conflict with Titch.

#63

booboo10 years ago

#63

And i don't think he was that good this year.

#64

booboo10 years ago

#64

Ha! Baker was named as travelling reserve. Massive chance of actually playing. Cutting his nose off to spite his face.

#65

Bovidae10 years ago

#65

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Ha! Baker was named as travelling reserve. Massive chance of actually playing. Cutting his nose off to spite his face.
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Baker wasn't one of the original travelling reserves named. That was Molia and Ormond.
 
He seems to be a bit of a prat but I still thought he would be picked. Obviously the injury-prone Webber has been picked in that position. 
 
I was surprised Stanaway made the cut too. My only memory of him in the Sevens series was costing NZ a game (vs Samoa?) with a brain implosion with time up.

#66

Stargazer10 years ago

#66

Veitchy talking to Sir Gordon Tietjens:
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/sir-gordon-tietjens-defends-rio-sevens-squad-selection/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/sir-gordon-tietjens-defends-rio-sevens-squad-selection/</a>

#67

Stargazer10 years ago

#67

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Baker wasn't one of the original travelling reserves named. That was Molia and Ormond.
 
He seems to be a bit of a prat but I still thought he would be picked. Obviously the injury-prone Webber has been picked in that position. 
 
I was surprised Stanaway made the cut too. My only memory of him in the Sevens series was costing NZ a game (vs Samoa?) with a brain implosion with time up.
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He was! Listen to the interview with Titch.

#68

Bovidae10 years ago

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He was! Listen to the interview with Titch.
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Before the official announcement? I don't listen to talkback radio.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics</a>

#69

Stargazer10 years ago

#69

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Before the official announcement? I don't listen to talkback radio.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics</a>
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I just posted the link to the interview. Here it is again: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/sir-gordon-tietjens-defends-rio-sevens-squad-selection/'>http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/sir-gordon-tietjens-defends-rio-sevens-squad-selection/</a>

#70

reprobate10 years ago

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as far as i'm concerned you've got to be a self-centred fluffybunny to come out and talk about that before the olympics. it just isn't helpful at all to the guys that have been picked who are going there to represent nz.

#71

Milk10 years ago

#71

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Before the official announcement? I don't listen to talkback radio.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29404/new-zealand-sevens-squads-named-for-olympics</a>
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Apparently Baker turned it down the spot before the announcement.
 
As Booboo says, had a massive chance of playing. With our recent luck it's highly unlikely all players will make it through.

#72

canefan10 years ago

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="595338" data-time="1468036136">as far as i'm concerned you've got to be a self-centred fluffybunny to come out and talk about that before the olympics. it just isn't helpful at all to the guys that have been picked who are going there to represent nz.</blockquote>Contrast that with how Izzy took missing out on rwc 15

#73

antipodean10 years ago

#73

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="595338" data-time="1468036136">
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as far as i'm concerned you've got to be a self-centred fluffybunny to come out and talk about that before the olympics. it just isn't helpful at all to the guys that have been picked who are going there to represent nz.
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Seems entirely within his character given he's a fluffybunny on the field.

#74

Stockcar8610 years ago

#74

My Olympic hero #droody
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.runnersworld.com/olympic-trials/meet-the-mustachioed-beer-drinking-hero-who-crashed-the-trials-10k'>http://www.runnersworld.com/olympic-trials/meet-the-mustachioed-beer-drinking-hero-who-crashed-the-trials-10k</a>
 
<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmUq9b8UEAESJj1.jpg" alt="CmUq9b8UEAESJj1.jpg">

#75

Stockcar8610 years ago

#75

From what I saw in the last tournament, he tackled as good as 10 year old school girl. You can't pick anyone who misses that many.
 
Also, he's from Palmy so what do you expect...

#76

ACT Crusader10 years ago

#76

KTN did seem a little scathing of the environment though. There must be something in it other than Baker's sour grapes. Add to that some questionable selections and poor performances, suggests all is not well IMO.

#77

Frye10 years ago

#77

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="595578" data-time="1468074301">KTN did seem a little scathing of the environment though. There must be something in it other than Baker's sour grapes. Add to that some questionable selections and poor performances, suggests all is not well IMO.</blockquote>
I have complete faith in Titch. If there were players who were openly questioning his authority than I don't have a problem with them getting the shepherds crook.

#78

Frye10 years ago

#78

Haha great story. 
Chur chur to the guy next to him as well.

#79

taniwharugby10 years ago

#79

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="595578" data-time="1468074301">KTN did seem a little scathing of the environment though. There must be something in it other than Baker's sour grapes. Add to that some questionable selections and poor performances, suggests all is not well IMO.</blockquote>
 
Why has this not surfaced before then? I doubt Titch would be changing a great deal of his tried and tested in his quest for gold, so I expect the other factor is the players, has Messam said anything in his whinge about missing out?

#80

Mokey10 years ago

#80

I was rather meh about Rio, especially with all the shitty stories coming from there, and athletes withdrawing. But yesterday Youtube happened to suggest some sport vids, and I watched Jack Lovelock 1500m, Peter Snell 800/1500 double and the men's eight in 72. And I got the rah rah feeling.
 
So bring it on, world.

#81

Nepia10 years ago

#81

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KTN did seem a little scathing of the environment though. There must be something in it other than Baker's sour grapes. Add to that some questionable selections and poor performances, suggests all is not well IMO.
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Te Nana isn't in the environment and it appears from the Titch conversation isn't aware of how some 15s players are available for the 7s team.
 
Baker is a goose, you only need to look at his idiocy on the field to see good reasons for his exclusion and why he's a risk for the team.
 
 
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Why has this not surfaced before then? I doubt Titch would be changing a great deal of his tried and tested in his quest for gold, so I expect the other factor is the players, has Messam said anything in his whinge about missing out?
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When did Messam have a whinge?

#82

taniwharugby10 years ago

#82

he hasnt (as far as I know) which is the point I was making...

#83

canefan10 years ago

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he hasnt (as far as I know) which is the point I was making...
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Neither has anyone else as far as I can remember, and Titch has been at it for decades. The weight of numbers are in his favour

8 days later

#84

booboo10 years ago

#84

<a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11676547">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11676547</a> <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
 Bookies favour Kiwis with gold medal odds 
Eric Murray and Hamish Bond of New Zealand celebrate in their gold medal at the London 2012 Olympics. 
By Sam Hewat 
The bookies have found favour with several New Zealand athletes heading to Rio, with odds firmly on some of our Olympic favourites. 
Hamish Bond and Eric Murray top the list with odds of just 1.02 euros at Irish bookermaker Paddy Power for them to back up their London gold medal in the coxless pair. 
Lisa Carrington closely follows with odds on her to win the Women's K1 200m at 1.16. 
Despite being the favourite in the K1 500m as well, Carrington's odds for the longer form are much more profitable at 3.00. 
Peter Burling and Blair Tuke go for 1.33 in the Men's 49er Sailing. Considering they only just lost their first race in four years last week, there is money to be made with the next best competitor coming in at 4.00. 
Next down the list is the Men's Sprint Team Cycling who are favourites to gain gold at 1.40. France is the next best at 4.50. 
London gold medallist, Mahe Drysdale, is at 1.57 to win the Men's Single Sculls while Valerie Adams is the favourite in the Women's Shot Put at 1.80. 
After that, the odds push out a lot further. 
The more risky punters will be looking to cash in on some of our outside hopefuls. 
The Men's Sevens team is paying at 3.50 and the Womens at 3.00. 
Tom Walsh is paying a whopping 9.00 in the Men's Shot Put while Lauren Boyle is second favourite in the Women's 800m Freestyle at 15.00. 
If the favourite, Katie Ledecky from the United States, should happen to false start or blow a fuse, betters could land huge money from a bet on Boyle. 
Some have also predicted Zoe Stevenson and Eve Macfarlane to win gold in the Women's Double Sculls, and they are currently paying 4.00. 
In any case, New Zealand can expect a number of medals; gold, silver and bronze. 
All odds are in Euro currency </blockquote>
Not sure how odds can be in Euros ...

#85

dK10 years ago

#85

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="597958" data-time="1468864478"><a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11676547">http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11676547</a> 
Not sure how odds can be in Euros ...</blockquote>
Paddy power = Ireland = Euro

#86

Frye10 years ago

#86

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Paddy power = Ireland = Euro</blockquote>
Agree with Booboo. Decimals odds are currency agnostic. If the odds are 1.16 than you receive 0.16 (extra) units for every unit invested. 
Specifying the currency at the end of the article is gobbledygook.

#87

booboo10 years ago

#87

Odds are odds. They're a ratio not a monetary unit. Throw away cooment really and not important in the context of the story. Was more interested in likely/possible NZ medallists.

#88

dogmeat10 years ago

#88

Both Gracenote and Luciana Barra had predicted NZ to finish 10th on the Gold Medal table with 8 and 10 respectively, although Gracenotes lasts update has us dropping one gold but still gathering a record 25 in total (7 gold, 11 silver and 7 bronze).
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.gracenote.com/gracenote-refreshes-2016-olympic-medal-predictions-30-days-opening-ceremonies/'>http://www.gracenote.com/gracenote-refreshes-2016-olympic-medal-predictions-30-days-opening-ceremonies/â€‹</a>
 
Predicted medallists at olympicmedalsprediction.com
 
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#89

dogmeat10 years ago

#89

None of the predictions factor out the dirty cheating Russkies.
 
We predictably win most of our medals sitting down.

#90

booboo10 years ago

#90

8 golds would be astonishing. With or without the Russkies. That's getting to the realms of fantasy. 
Hell 6 in Lodnod was amazing. By far the most we had ever won (double previous best I think) excluding the LA boycott. 
I do think that 3 is not only our most golds but also par for the course. 
Off the top of my head: 
London 6 
Beijing 3 
Athens 3 
Sydney 1 
Atlanta 3 
Barcelona... 1??? 
Seoul 3 
LA 8 
Montreal ... 2 (Walker, Hockey) ... or 3 ... ? Dunno 
Munich ... now I'm struggling ... more ... Eights plus? 
Will have to go the Google

#91

booboo10 years ago

#91

... from above ... 
Montreal 2 
Munich 1 
Mexico City 1 
Tokyo 3 
Rome 2 
Melbourne 2 
Helsinki 1 
Berlin 1 
Amsterdam 1 
Stockholm 1 (kind of ... as a member of the Australasian swim relay)