@reprobate said in Hurricanes 2027:
Locks? Who needs 'em. You guys just won the comp at an canter using a blindside, the most ill-disciplined player in NZ, and some guy from a 2nd tier nation.
Best lock in SR this season, and a lock for the ABs if eligible
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
@Rugbyman said in Hurricanes 2027:
Would be good to sign someone like Fita Sa to replace Dearns. 203 120kgs would be good and on the selectors radar.
I doubt they will let Sa go, Ah Koui is much more likely but obviously doesn’t have the same height and weight.
Delany and Ah Koui are two very good locks but lack the height to be world class.
it's kind of funny when the Hurricanes wanted taller locks they had to go to Japan.
@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes 2027:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
@Rugbyman said in Hurricanes 2027:
Would be good to sign someone like Fita Sa to replace Dearns. 203 120kgs would be good and on the selectors radar.
I doubt they will let Sa go, Ah Koui is much more likely but obviously doesn’t have the same height and weight.
Delany and Ah Koui are two very good locks but lack the height to be world class.
it's kind of funny when the Hurricanes wanted taller locks they had to go to Japan.
I’d have a chuckle if they ended up getting someone like Blackwell back.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
I’d have a chuckle if they ended up getting someone like Blackwell back.
there'd be a tear in there as well?
@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes 2027:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
I’d have a chuckle if they ended up getting someone like Blackwell back.
there'd be a tear in there as well?
And a few f bombs
For anyone wanting to watch Fletcher Cooper in action, the St Pats derby is on Sky Sport at midday today.
Troy 'Thomas' Waldrom the quickest schoolboy in the country and son of the great one is playing on the wing as well.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
For anyone wanting to watch Fletcher Cooper in action, the St Pats derby is on Sky Sport at midday today.
Troy 'Thomas' Waldrom the quickest schoolboy in the country and son of the great one is playing on the wing as well.
Poor old Townies always the 2nd best St. Pat's in the region. The big question is whether the Streamers can win the golf?
@SouthernMann Where’s Harkin off to?
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
@SouthernMann Where’s Harkin off to?
I have put every player with rumours about departure in. Any rumours get put into the potential player movements.
You have asked this question of multiple people in other threads as well.
@Canes4life said in Exodus:
@SecFid said in Future great AB predictions:
@Canes4life Where is the evidence of Harkin and Cameron moving on? Harkin is contracted through to end of 2027
It's been mentioned on here that Harkin is looking at a contract in France, potentially he has an out clause. Hope it's not true as he's a lock in starter at 15 for the Canes moving forward.
Regarding Cameron, I wouldn't be surprised after his run of bad injuries that he takes a contract off-shore and cashes in while he can. I hope he signs on as depth is key.
@SouthernMann Indeed I have asked elsewhere, but thought I’d found the original poster that published the rumour, and am trying to understand from you whether there is any truth or substance to it. Clearly I’m asking the wrong person
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
@SouthernMann Indeed I have asked elsewhere, but thought I’d found the original poster that published the rumour, and am trying to understand from you whether there is any truth or substance to it. Clearly I’m asking the wrong person
You could just use the search function on the forum to find out where it originated from. That seems quite easy.
Yep did that 24 days ago and asked @kiwimurph and @canes4life where they were getting their intel but got no response on the subject. Then I read your table in the first post repeating the so called rumour (probably better described as misinformation) and thought I would try again. Thanks for all your help
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
Yep did that 24 days ago and asked @kiwimurph and @canes4life where they were getting their intel but got no response on the subject. Then I read your table in the first post repeating the so called rumour (probably better described as misinformation) and thought I would try again. Thanks for all your help
@steven-harris posted it originally.
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
Yep did that 24 days ago and asked @kiwimurph and @canes4life where they were getting their intel but got no response on the subject. Then I read your table in the first post repeating the so called rumour (probably better described as misinformation) and thought I would try again. Thanks for all your help
Dick comment.
Always stated that everything shared on the forum or externally would be included.
There is a range of rumours that are not substantiated, but have been said by one or two people. Which are included.
You seem like a bit of a whinger and a bit stuck in the mud that some people have cited Harkin. Who cares. Rumours are just that until they are confirmed or they just disappear into the wind.
Here is Steven Harris talking about Harkin
@Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes 2026:
@Canes4life the last info I got was from a NZ rugby staffer that Rennie was very keen on Harkin but he was heading overseas he also said at the same token NZ were getting tuff on players breaking contracts if they still had time to still to run
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
Apologies - I’ll leave it. Appreciate people can make up whatever they want to on this site and we are all free to add to it further - but heaven forbid somebody asking - “where did you hear that?”
It wasn't hard to find the post.
Same with chucking around terms like 'misinformation' a bit disingenuous.
For some clarity, Harkin is signed through 2027.
Cashmore is the 10 leaving. Not sure where but that announcement isn’t very far away along with a few other players.
Unsure if it’s been posted anywhere but Bryn Evans is moving on too.
@MonteCarlo said in Hurricanes 2027:
Just noticed on the Turbos squad announcement that Vernon Bason has a season ending injury? Wonder if that is why he was never selected towards the end of the season?
No. I posted this in the NPC thread.
@MonteCarlo said in Hurricanes 2027:
Just noticed on the Turbos squad announcement that Vernon Bason has a season ending injury? Wonder if that is why he was never selected towards the end of the season?
I'm seeing it as "currently injured", so likely to feature later in the season.
@Landers92 said in Hurricanes 2027:
For some clarity, Harkin is signed through 2027.
Cashmore is the 10 leaving. Not sure where but that announcement isn’t very far away along with a few other players.
Unsure if it’s been posted anywhere but Bryn Evans is moving on too.
Oh damn, Evans is a big loss but maybe it’s because he’s got no locks to coach? 
@SouthernMann Found the media source of this sites rumours. Article is about Hurricanes coach Brad Cooper leaving not Harkin, but his name and photo are used. Time frames match up too. https://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-transfers-all-blacks-snub-leaves-crusaders-harlequins-swoop-for-hurricanes-guru
@SecFid said in Hurricanes 2027:
@SouthernMann Found the media source of this sites rumours. Article is about Hurricanes coach Brad Cooper leaving not Harkin, but his name and photo are used. Time frames match up too. https://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-transfers-all-blacks-snub-leaves-crusaders-harlequins-swoop-for-hurricanes-guru
Very much doubt that has anything to do with it given the contents of the original post.
@Bovidae said in Hurricanes 2027:
@MonteCarlo said in Hurricanes 2027:
Just noticed on the Turbos squad announcement that Vernon Bason has a season ending injury? Wonder if that is why he was never selected towards the end of the season?
No. I posted this in the NPC thread.
Ahhh shit that's horrible. Thanks for the heads up
@Canes4life
Cashmore is going to Japan after NPC.
And Cole Forbes from the Blues
Take 2: For anyone wanting to watch Fletcher Cooper in action, the St Pats derby is on Sky Sport at midday today.
said in Hurricanes 2027:
Any word on Israel Leota?
Lima Sopoaga raving about Fletcher Cooper on Sky Sport right now. Talent beyond his years that's for sure.
If the Canes offered Billy Proctor a five year contract, surely they'll be doing the same with this kid.
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
Lima Sopoaga raving about Fletcher Cooper on Sky Sport right now. Talent beyond his years that's for sure.
If the Canes offered Billy Proctor a five year contract, surely they'll be doing the same with this kid.
That second half stretch from minute 46 to minute 56 was pretty spectacular: try, conversion, drop goal, grubber kick line break assist, try, side line conversion. 17 unanswered points scored by himself to bring his team from 10 points down to 7 points up.
I don’t really like hype trains so I’ll bracket this by saying there are still some areas of improvement, I think: his right-to-left pass can still be a bit clunky and his speed of execution at the line needs to quicken. That’s not a whole lot, though, and you have to wonder how much development he would get by playing another year at St. Pats Silverstream.
I was impressed when I saw him play at the Global Youth Sevens last year. It might not be a bad idea to get him into the NZ 7s and turn him into the best possible athlete he could be. If there are further gains to his development, I reckon they might be there.
@mauss said in Hurricanes 2027:
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2027:
Lima Sopoaga raving about Fletcher Cooper on Sky Sport right now. Talent beyond his years that's for sure.
If the Canes offered Billy Proctor a five year contract, surely they'll be doing the same with this kid.
That second half stretch from minute 46 to minute 56 was pretty spectacular: try, conversion, drop goal, grubber kick line break assist, try, side line conversion. 17 unanswered points scored by himself to bring his team from 10 points down to 7 points up.
I don’t really like hype trains so I’ll bracket this by saying there are still some areas of improvement, I think: his right-to-left pass can still be a bit clunky and his speed of execution at the line needs to quicken. That’s not a whole lot, though, and you have to wonder how much development he would get by playing another year at St. Pats Silverstream.
I was impressed when I saw him play at the Global Youth Sevens last year. It might not be a bad idea to get him into the NZ 7s and turn him into the best possible athlete he could be. If there are further gains to his development, I reckon they might be there.
Nice summary and you're right, that 10 mins was pretty crazy. As Lima mentioned he's already doing things that take many professional players years to learn, so he's definitely well ahead of the game ability wise. Obviously, no way near the finished product yet so it will be interesting to see how he kicks on over the next five years.
I think getting him involved in those professional environments at such a young age would have also sped up his maturity but as you suggest, getting him into the sevens where he can express himself more might be the better way to go when he becomes available at the end of next year. It's crazy to think he's still only year 12 and has one year left in college rugby.
I wouldn't be surprised if Wellington and Canes signed him to a long-term contract as every franchise will be after signature when the time comes.
