@Jaguares4real I think it will be Goodhue and Ennor in the MF and Jordan on the bench.You could argue extra pace helps.

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

What's really sad about this new is, is that this Final was supposed to be the last Super Rugby and Crusaders game of Crotty's rugby career. Instead, he has to sit in the stands and watch, and his last game was a Semi-Final in which he broke his thumb.

Poetic really

And before you all come piling in here with your panties in a bunch, that was a fucking joke. Missing a GF for anything is harsh, missing with an injury is the worst

Couple of pretty fucking big outs for the Crusaders, unlike a few positions in the side, it seems that they don't have great cover there. Wait, i forgot Romano existed. As you were.

Assuming he's fit I think they will start Strange and have Romano come off the bench.

@SammyC Dunshea has been better this season than Strange.

@Chris said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real I think it will be Goodhue and Ennor in the MF and Jordan on the bench.You could argue extra pace helps.

I concur

Jaguares have some serious speed in their outside backs

Ennor would be a good antidote as well pose a legit threat in attack with his running ability

@mariner4life yeah not so sure about the bench cover or 3rd locking option now not totally convinced on Strange or Dunshea

@Stargazer Yeah I agree hes been more physical Strange seems to have gone backwards a bit.

@SammyC Do you like that idea I prefer Romano starting and Dunshea I think Strange has been a bit passive this season.

@mariner4life said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

World Rugby need to crack down on this. Name a 23 on Monday!

that will affect our Thursday naming too, not sure people could handle the change, although I guess at least if they standardise it, everyone knows when the team will be named.

Match Final: Crusaders v Jaguares @ Orangetheory Stadium, Christchurch
Date Saturday 6 July
Kick-off 19:35 local [NZ]
Referee Jaco Peyper
AR1 Mike Fraser
AR2 Paul Williams
TMO Ben Skeen

So 3 RWC refs (O’Keeffe, Williams and Gardner) didn't officiate in any of the 7 Super rugby playoff games.

@Bovidae said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

So 3 RWC refs (O’Keeffe, Williams and Gardner) didn't officiate in any of the 7 Super rugby playoff games.

Meeting their powder dry

Also SA ref in game with SA conference winner in it, the stitch is on!

Geez, that's a lot of bandage for a broken finger.

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Geez, that's a lot of bandage for a broken finger.

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"Ronan I can't hold my beer"
"Get back inside".

@Bovidae Maybe because they are shit

@Machpants said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Also SA ref in game with SA conference winner in it, the stitch is on!

Nah, Peyper is a homer like Jackson.

@Chris I was implying that WR and SANZAAR have a different view on the refs.

@Bovidae Yeah I know I was agreeing but in a basic way :grinning_face:

that's a bit shit for crotty and barrett eh, big losses.
ennor is a gun i reckon, quick off the mark, good hands and one of our few backs who can hold their depth and hit a pass with pace. goodhue we all know is excellent, so surely they'll sort themselves out.
not so convinced about the locking options. romano is okay, strange hasn't kicked on, dunshea's been okay. none of them have had a season that is a patch on ennor's though.

@Bovidae said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Machpants said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Nah, Peyper is a homer like Jackson.

Kwagga "red card" Smith says hi! :clapping_hands_light_skin_tone:

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

to play Bateman at 12, which wouldn't be such a bad choice if he had played a few more gam

I believe Will Jordan is fit again from his foot injury

If he's match fit I'd play him at 15, move Havilli to 12 with Ennor #23

If he;s not match fit I'd move Goodhue to 12, Ennor to 13 & Jordan #23

I happened to see Havili at 12 in one game and he looked very at home.

If RC was leader of backline defence I wonder who is his designated deputy, if there is one.

@pakman Havili played at 12 for Ta$man all season in 2018. Captained the team as well.

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@pakman Havili played at 12 for Ta$man all season in 2018. Captained the team as well.

So maybe a good option. At this stage JG seems to offer much more at centre.

@pakman I saw photos of the Crusaders training today. Ennor was wearing the 13 jersey. Not sure whether that also means that that's where he'll play.

Goodhue is a natural centre and defensively is very good there. At 12 he was iffy and add to that Ennor really struggled defensively at centre.

In attack Ennor has the goods.

Whilst it seems unlikely I would feel far more comfortable with:

12 - Havili
13 - Goodhue
15 - Jordan

23 - Ennor

@ACT-Crusader Jordan was really weak at fullback in the Sharks game, and things improved a lot when Bridge moved to fullback when they took off Jordan. So another option might be:

11 - Ennor
12 - Havili
13 - Goodhue
15 - Bridge

23 - Jordan

Jordan had an off-day but he must not be condemned on this sole game. However, he has been injured for a while now so it is hard to see him jump into the starting XV for the final.

Quesada is a big time coach

How to pronounce Jaguares properly

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

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How to pronounce Jaguares properly

It’s pronounced ruh-nurs ah-p

@ACT-Crusader said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Jaguares4real said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

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How to pronounce Jaguares properly

It’s pronounced ruh-nurs ah-p

Keep :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face: on the Jaguares

Jaguares are the best team the Crusaders have played this year

Jaguares dusted up the Canes in the Cake Tin & Crusaders beat the Canes THREE times!!!

Dunshea and Ennor Starting, Jordan onto the Bench

Crusaders

1 Joe Moody
2 Codie Taylor
3 Owen Franks
4 Mitchell Dunshea
5 Sam Whitelock (c)
6 Whetukamokamo Douglas
7 Matt Todd (vc)
8 Kieran Read
9 Bryn Hall
10 Richie Mo'unga
11 George Bridge
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Braydon Ennor
14 Sevu Reece
15 David Havili (vc)

Reserves:
16 Andrew Makalio
17 George Bower
18 Michael Alaalatoa
19 Luke Romano
20 Jordan Taufua
21 Mitchell Drummond
22 Mitchell Hunt
23 Will Jordan

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Crusaders

1 Joe Moody
2 Codie Taylor
3 Owen Franks
4 Mitchell Dunshea
5 Sam Whitelock (c)
6 Whetukamokamo Douglas
7 Matt Todd (vc)
8 Kieran Read
9 Bryn Hall
10 Richie Mo'unga
11 George Bridge
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Braydon Ennor
14 Sevu Reece
15 David Havili (vc)

Reserves:
16 Andrew Makalio
17 George Bower
18 Michael Alaalatoa
19 Luke Romano
20 Jordan Taufua
21 Mitchell Drummond
22 Mitchell Hunt
23 Will Jordan

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Canterbury by 15? Or maybe the biggest downtrou in Finals history?

@Hooroo said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

@Stargazer said in SR Final: Crusaders v Jaguares:

Crusaders

1 Joe Moody
2 Codie Taylor
3 Owen Franks
4 Mitchell Dunshea
5 Sam Whitelock (c)
6 Whetukamokamo Douglas
7 Matt Todd (vc)
8 Kieran Read
9 Bryn Hall
10 Richie Mo'unga
11 George Bridge
12 Jack Goodhue
13 Braydon Ennor
14 Sevu Reece
15 David Havili (vc)

Reserves:
16 Andrew Makalio
17 George Bower
18 Michael Alaalatoa
19 Luke Romano
20 Jordan Taufua
21 Mitchell Drummond
22 Mitchell Hunt
23 Will Jordan

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Canterbury by 15? Or maybe the biggest downtrou in Finals history?

I doubt it will be anywhere near as bad as Foster's Chiefs loss to the Bulls in 2009.

@Hooroo Haha, are you a Chiefs fan desperate for that embarrassment to be passed on?