@Bovidae said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Jonker the Plonker strikes again. No consistency across the games.

Jonker is not the bunker ref. If you’re going to give out at least know how the system works.

@Stargazer you and me both

@Stargazer said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

I really don't understand how Horie's card stayed yellow, but Lam's gets upgraded to red. IMO both should have received red.

I do, and I am not condoning it. There was a slight dip in Horie's case, head to head. Lam's was a straight shoulder to head with a higher degree of danger.

@Stargazer said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

I really don't understand how Horie's card stayed yellow, but Lam's gets upgraded to red. IMO both should have received red.

It has to come back to the human factor -- unconscious bias vs conscious bias.... I personally think there is a bit of both at play...

Remember its only a few weeks ago Farrell got down graded .......and then consider some of the non-citing's ...... Its a bloody mess

No clear release whatsoever, not condoning the Samoans frustrations but can totally understand

oh dear --- Samoa butchered a certain try there

knock on no try

Knock on. Deliberately

@booboo said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Knock on. Deliberately

Now you are talking bollocks, he had both hands down to grab it and one arm was hit by the Samoan players

Ok, not deliberate

@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

@booboo said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Knock on. Deliberately

Now you are talking bollocks, he had both hands down to grab it and one arm was hit by the Samoan players

First view I thought deliberate.

On replay I was wrong.

Am I allowed to say that on TSF?

Yep you can and I can call it bollocks

Why weren't Samoa playing like this the whole game!

McFarland turning this match

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

McFarland turning this match

You'd hope game on!

Offside from the not-deliberate knock on by Samoa

Japan used to be the offloading/quick passing kings, that has really fallen away

@booboo said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Offside from the not-deliberate knock on by Samoa

Only 10 in it. Take the points.

28-15, with 5 to go

Try Samoa. And now it's 6 points. 90secs left

Samoa dangerous as when they just pick and smash in the centre, knocking the Japs back like ten pins

Samoa were their own worst enemy. So many unforced errors especially knock ons.

Those changes needed to be made much earlier especially at halfback

Cracking watch

Credit to both teams

Jaco did very well

Let down by TMO

Well looking at those points on the table, my predicitions for the A B pools are looking great
Ire>SA
Fr>NZ
for C D pools not so much
OZ>Wales (probably Wales>Fiji)
Eng>Arg (probably Eng>Japan)

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Cracking watch

Credit to both teams

Jaco did very well

Indeed, tho I am very unsure how both him and the liney missed Lam's tackle right in front of them

@Billy-Tell I know there is another nameless TMO but I can't criticise them if I don't know who they are.

The Horie tackle was no different to Ta'avao's, and we know how that ended.

Samoa played better without Lam. More purposeful.

that was a fun game of footy. Japan tackled like demons, but Samoa created enough only to throw a shit 50/50 and cede possession

That 2nd last Samoa try was a thing of absolute beauty. 20 pick and goes just smashing Japanese players. A flick pass, and a quick spread. Gorgeous.

@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

Samoa dangerous as when they just pick and smash in the centre, knocking the Japs back like ten pins

That was their strength, yet on a number of occasions they showed a lack of patience and just threw the ball wide.

I enjoyed the match overall, but there were some frustrating patches watching Samoa. They actually could be a fantastic 10-man rugby game team, if they wanted to be.

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

TBF up to that point the best TMO performance to date

Quick, concise, accurate

TMO doesn’t make bunker decisions. Different bloke

@Dodge said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

TBF up to that point the best TMO performance to date

Quick, concise, accurate

TMO doesn’t make bunker decisions. Different bloke

TMO starts the ball rolling though, no?

He/she checks something

Then chooses to inform the ref

Last night the TMO saw something, checked it, and told the ref crack on not worth checking

If Bunker fucked up then I’ll take that onboard

I may have confused which incident you were talking about to be fair. I thought you were talking about the yellow not being upgraded. Apologies

@Dodge said in RWC Week 4: Japan v Samoa:

I may have confused which incident you were talking about to be fair. I thought you were talking about the yellow not being upgraded. Apologies

No apologies needed

I thought the TMO was good but let himself down by not upgrading the YC to RC

You've informed me that the TMO doesn't make that decision, which I didn't know

So I guess what we're saying is 'Hitler' in his bunker fucked up but Jaco and the TMO had a great match