Match thread

antipodean

@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Your forwards also need to be getting the ball at pace, not being stationary and then trying to generate some forward momentum.

Yes, but as a runner you need confidence that when you can see the ball is available to start running safe in the knowledge the ball will quickly and accurately come to where you'll be.

Winger

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Mr Fish

Team gets named at 11am on Thursday.

canefan

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Your forwards also need to be getting the ball at pace, not being stationary and then trying to generate some forward momentum.

Yes, but as a runner you need confidence that when you can see the ball is available to start running safe in the knowledge the ball will quickly and accurately come to where you'll be.

A fleet footed quick passing 9 is invaluable. As good as TJP was during SR, I don't think it was a coincidence that the Canes forwards seemed to be more lethal running in the first half of the season

nostrildamus

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Lancaster-Park said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Yes but if Jordie goes down are we not in bigger trouble?
Seriously our entire backline activity changes completely if hes off.
ALB would take his place but he is a very different 12 and hes been playing at 13 when he comes on has he not?

Or put Proctor to 12?

if they play new people I hope they play them first in their preferred position.

nostrildamus

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Canes4life

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Don't think he's lost a lineout so far. Hope he starts this week.

Winger

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Don't think he's lost a lineout so far. Hope he starts this week.

He did in test one. When he went to throw and stopped

Canes4life

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Don't think he's lost a lineout so far. Hope he starts this week.

He did in test one. When he went to throw and stopped

True, he’s done what’s asked of him so far though tbh. Taylor seems to be struggling with form like Barrett and Savea so would be good to give Aumua a run.

Mr Fish

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

We are missing Samisoni. He is powerful enough to make yards and get momentum against a set defence. I'd love to see him start and Aumua come on late. But then if we keep Taylor and drop Aumua we don't gain that much anyway.

Unsure why they don't bring on Aumua earlier. Especially when Taylor is having a poorish game

Team needs better ball carriers. And passers.

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Don't think he's lost a lineout so far. Hope he starts this week.

He did in test one. When he went to throw and stopped

True, he’s done what’s asked of him so far though tbh. Taylor seems to be struggling with form like Barrett and Savea so would be good to give Aumua a run.

I don't know if Taylor is struggling with form? The lineout wasn't functioning in the second Test but that can hardly be attributed solely to Taylor.

That doesn't mean it's not worth giving Aumua a go by any means.

nostrildamus

@Winger said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Gotta say Aumua has looked good so far, and I think lineouts were better when he arrived? But I might have got that wrong..

Don't think he's lost a lineout so far. Hope he starts this week.

He did in test one. When he went to throw and stopped

yes sorry I was really thinking about test 2, should have qualified.

Daffy Jaffy
  1. Tamaiti Williams (7)

  2. Asafo Aumua (8)

  3. Fletcher Newell (15)

  4. Scott Barrett (71) (Captain)

  5. Tupou Vaa’i (27)

  6. Luke Jacobson (20)

  7. Ethan Blackadder (10)

  8. Ardie Savea (83) (Vice Captain)

  9. Cortez Ratima (1)

  10. Damian McKenzie (49)

  11. Caleb Clarke (20)

  12. Anton Lienert-Brown (72)

  13. Billy Proctor (0)*

  14. Sevu Reece (25)

  15. Beauden Barrett (125)

  16. George Bell (0)*

  17. Ethan De Groot (24)

  18. Pasilio Tosi (0)*

  19. Sam Darry (0)*

  20. Wallace Sititi (0)*

  21. Noah Hotham (0)*

  22. Jordie Barrett (59) (Vice Captain)

  23. Emoni Narawa (1)

Canes4life

All Blacks team named for Fiji.

Would have rather seen Jordie partner his mate in the centres but congratulations to Billy Proctor on finally making his debut.

Interesting they've gone with Reece on the wing, thought Narawa would have been given a start. Overall a very solid side.

chimoaus

6 Newbies, is that a recent record?

chimoaus

Or did we have that in that Japan test a few years back.

KiwiMurph

Will likely be messy but still happy to see the debutants

Canes4life

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Will likely be messy but still happy to see the debutants

It's definitely a more exciting 23 than the first 2 tests.

7 Crusaders
7 Chiefs
5 Canes
3 Blues
1 Highlander

Bovidae

Noah's parents are currently in the UK watching the eldest son in the Touch World Cup before heading to Paris for the sevens. I wonder if they will be making a quick trip to San Diego now.