@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
This is the only match on this tour that I am feeling fully confident about. Japan are poor and not really going anywhere at the moment. I think we could lose any and all of the other four Test matches.
Maaaaaaaaaaate Japan are going to push NZ hard, maaaaaaaaaaate, maybe even a win maaaaaaaaaaaaate
@Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:
Good test for Proctor actually, really rate Riley.
He's no Riley Higgins.....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:
Good test for Proctor actually, really rate Riley.
He's no Riley Higgins.....
Well yeah he can tackle as well as run!
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
Underwhelming
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
I disagree, I think they're giving McKenzie a run against Japan so that he doesn't go into the England match having not played decent minutes in over a month.
Could be wrong!
On the broadcast situation in the UK, I've heard that one of the paid platforms will have the match (presumably TNT or Sky).
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
I disagree, I think they're giving McKenzie a run against Japan so that he doesn't go into the England match having not played decent minutes in over a month.
Could be wrong!
That would mean 4 games in a row, can't see it. There's a reason why the to team went to UK, so they can prepare for a torrid 3 weeks
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
I disagree, I think they're giving McKenzie a run against Japan so that he doesn't go into the England match having not played decent minutes in over a month.
Could be wrong!
That would mean 4 games in a row, can't see it. There's a reason why the to team went to UK, so they can prepare for a torrid 3 weeks
So you don't think Sam Cane or Wallace Sititi are in the top team either then?
McKenzie played five games in a row for the Chiefs to round out the Super season, had one weekend off and then played three more in a row for the All Blacks. I suspect he can handle four games in a row now after a four week break.
There is no way they see BB as first choice 10
No chance
Zero way
(if I say it enough times….)
@Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:
Good test for Proctor actually, really rate Riley.
The Japan midfield is pretty robust with both Riley and McCurran.
Thank goodness a crippling injury rate has allowed the likes of Lakai and Love to finally get a chance...
Surely the creaking Razor bandwagon will be empty if they name Beauden at 10 against England after playing DMac all year, just because he looked OK against an awful Wallabies team at home.
That Japanese team would have one of the higher number of non-Japanese born players in recent years.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:
That Japanese team would have one of the higher number of non-Japanese born players in recent years.
Its putrid. I dont even think international coaches should be foreign.
Having Gatland coaching the Lions was just ridiculous while we are at it.
Disappointing Japan lineup, considering its one of the more homogenous, immigration shy, nations in the world these days.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants I expect to see Ratima and McKenzie in the halves still...
As mentioned here, DMac starting in Japan means razor see'experienced' ten Beaudy as top choice
I disagree, I think they're giving McKenzie a run against Japan so that he doesn't go into the England match having not played decent minutes in over a month.
Could be wrong!
That would mean 4 games in a row, can't see it. There's a reason why the to team went to UK, so they can prepare for a torrid 3 weeks
So you don't think Sam Cane or Wallace Sititi are in the top team either then?
McKenzie played five games in a row for the Chiefs to round out the Super season, had one weekend off and then played three more in a row for the All Blacks. I suspect he can handle four games in a row now after a four week break.
They will need to make heavy use of the bench in this game and rotate players through this EOYT series.
They have to start rotating the 10s now so that they can claim there's no clear number 1 for when their little overhyped Cantab comes back .... 
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Japan:
They have to start rotating the 10s now so that they can claim there's no clear number 1 for when their little overhyped Cantab comes back ....
that depends, he fully deserves the hype at SR level, his impact (and Whitelock's) was greater than Carter and McCaw who often went through the motions until they got into AB camp. Mo'unga always delivered at SR level except for his first season under Slackadder, i do agree that the hype is unwarranted regarding his All Black performances.
without Mo'unga and Whitelock Razor probably wins 2-3 titles instead of 7.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Japan:
They have to start rotating the 10s now so that they can claim there's no clear number 1 for when their little overhyped Cantab comes back ....
that depends, he fully deserves the hype at SR level, his impact was greater than Carter and McCaw who often went through the motions until they got into AB camp. Mo'unga always delivered at SR level except for his first season under Slackadder, i do agree that the hype is unwarranted regarding his All Black performances.
Someone told me SR form didn't matter.... 
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:
I expect at least a 30 point thrashing.
Japan isn't that good
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Japan:
They have to start rotating the 10s now so that they can claim there's no clear number 1 for when their little overhyped Cantab comes back ....
Keep working on that thumb grip, DMac! 
I get the impression Razor and co have lost the TSF room (not the red and black corner perhaps).
Personally I thought we were up against quality teams.
On the other hand the inability to change tack or keep the momentum was IMHO a reflection on the second half coaching. And not a good one.
@Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:
That Japanese team would have one of the higher number of non-Japanese born players in recent years.
Its putrid. I dont even think international coaches should be foreign.
Having Gatland coaching the Lions was just ridiculous while we are at it.
Disappointing Japan lineup, considering it’s one of the more homogenous, immigration shy, nations in the world these days.
As a Scots fan I’m all for foreign born players.
They just made one of them captain !
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:
I get the impression Razor and co have lost the TSF room (not the red and black corner perhaps).
Personally I thought we were up against quality teams.
On the other hand the inability to change tack or keep the momentum was IMHO a reflection on the second half coaching. And not a good one.
He can get the room back. Just has to open his other eye 
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Anyone know if this is going to be on UK TV?
With just over 24 hours until kick off there doesn't seem to be a TV deal in place.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
Anyone know if this is going to be on UK TV?
With just over 24 hours until kick off there doesn't seem to be a TV deal in place.
Mentioned above that one of the Pay TV providers supposedly have a deal in place (but that's looking questionable at this stage).
@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:
I get the impression Razor and co have lost the TSF room (not the red and black corner perhaps).
Personally I thought we were up against quality teams.
On the other hand the inability to change tack or keep the momentum was IMHO a reflection on the second half coaching. And not a good one.He can get the room back. Just has to open his other eye
I'm not in the cantablack group. What he needs to do is
A) look to the future, drop some dead wood
B] give Wayne Smith the boot and realise that 2015 attacking rugby is not winning rugby anymore
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:
I get the impression Razor and co have lost the TSF room (not the red and black corner perhaps).
Personally I thought we were up against quality teams.
On the other hand the inability to change tack or keep the momentum was IMHO a reflection on the second half coaching. And not a good one.He can get the room back. Just has to open his other eye
I'm not in the cantablack group. What he needs to do is
A) look to the future, drop some dead wood
B] give Wayne Smith the boot and realise that 2015 attacking rugby is not winning rugby anymore
C) make selections on merit
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Japan:
I'll be at the game but having been at Nissan Stadium before, I am not sure if I will be able to identify any of the players. You couldn't design a worse stadium for viewing rugby. Oh, well....a few beers and I'll get into the atmosphere and watch the game on TV afterwards.
Nah, Nissan is good - much much better than Ajinomoto. Enjoy mate, we won’t be going this time sadly.
50p to anyone who can find a UK TV channel showing Japan match.
I'll be taking 39 per cent off that before I give it to you because that's not really classified as working
