Match thread

Victor Meldrew

Move over Cam. Reuben Love is the new GOAT

sparky

A double for Ruben Love. He should have been in the ABs at the start of the year.

Fuck there is some dead weight in this squad, and dead brains in the tactics we are playing

booboo

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

A double for Ruben Love. He should have been in the ABs at the start of the year.

For who?

Frank

Razor will certainly be bringing Mounga back.

nostrildamus

Jordan might have to settle for wing at this rate. But it would be nice to have some speed on the wing.

taniwharugby

def plenty to work on around decision making, particularly when to throw an off-load or kick passes, then there are the unforced errors, makes you wonder if the fitness levels are where they need ot be with such poor decisions as the game wears on

sparky

@booboo Ahead of Perofeta. Easily our second best attacking fullback behind Jordan and the best under the high ball.

@Frank said in All Blacks v Japan:

Razor will certainly be bringing Mounga back.

I hope so, cos DMac ain't the answer. We'll see next three weeks of Beaudy can run the cutter with a bit more control

Jet

@Frank said in All Blacks v Japan:

Razor will certainly be bringing Mounga back.

Im as disgusted as the next man, but do you blame him.

DMAC and Beaudy are playing like teenagers.

Canes4life

Man I want to see Love and Jordan together but Love at 15 and Jordan on the wing.

Jet

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

@booboo Ahead of Perofeta. Easily our second best attacking fullback behind Jordan and the best under the high ball.

Love has "it".

Same as Roigard.

They pass the eye test.

Love could be thrown in at 10 or FB and he wouldnt let you down. Classy.

Jet

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Japan:

Man I want to see Love and Jordan together but Love at 15 and Jordan on the wing.

We need that effervescence in the team.

sparky

Finishes 64-19.

In attack, that will do.

In defence, very worrying signs.

Victor Meldrew

Positives:

  • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
  • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
  • DMac's defence
  • Telea showing some form
  • Pat T's breakdown work
  • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

Negatives

  • Poor defence
  • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
  • Scrum didn't dominate
  • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC
Mr Fish

A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...

Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.

Jet

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

Finishes 64-19.

In attack, that will do.

In defence, very worrying signs.

We will be hitting walls at the gain line for the next 3 weeks so im quite concerned.

Stag

@sparky settle down, Shane Phillpot would have scored those 2 try’s…

Canes4life

No Mils, TJ isn’t better than Roigard ffs.

so we haven't gotten rid of that final 20 curse, we were told that they'd fixed it in the final bledisloe...

nostrildamus

@darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Japan:

so we haven't gotten rid of that final 20 curse, we were told that they'd fixed it in the final bledisloe...

2 tries?

Jet

A load of tries there for Kirsty and Goldie to wax lyrical over, the week before we get our arses handed to us over 3 consecutive weekends.

Canes4life

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...

Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.

My biggest pain with the ABs atm is persisting with guys that are clearly past it. We need to move on from Cane, Perenara, Havili etc. There is clearly enough talent for us to cope so why not build for the future.

Dan54

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

Positives:

  • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
  • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
  • DMac's defence
  • Telea showing some form
  • Pat T's breakdown work
  • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

Negatives

  • Poor defence
  • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
  • Scrum didn't dominate
  • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

sparky

@Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:

A load of tries there for Kirsty and Goldie to wax lyrical over, the week before we get our arses handed to us over 3 consecutive weekends.

Before they hyperventilate with excitement, can someone tell them it's only Japan, they are ranked 14th in the world and coached by a guy on a sinecure?

Jet

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...

Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.

Sometimes, classy players make things happen. He strikes me as one of those players. Like young Beaudy or Will Jordan. The ball bounces his way as he is so sharp off the mark.

Perofeta has had ample time to score some "regulation tries" and hasnt.

Dan54

All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.

sparky

@Victor-Meldrew That's fair. I'd add Ruben Love coming on, making his debut and showing his class to the positives.

African Monkey

@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.

Did you and @Bones enjoy the game together?

Jet

@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...

Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.

My biggest pain with the ABs atm is persisting with guys that are clearly past it. We need to move on from Cane, Perenara, Havili etc. There is clearly enough talent for us to cope so why not build for the future.

And we can see that the likes of Sititi, Tosi, Ratima, Love are not over awed when given the chance.

We have been too conservative at the selection table for about 5 years now.

The likes of TJP and Beaudy are albatrosses around our necks at this stage.

Let the young lads cook.

antipodean

Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?

Does he have an acquired brain injury or is that written in his contract to have his tongue shoved that far up the AB coach's arse?

Kruse

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:

Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?

Did anybody think ever that he had smarts above.... (insert the most offensive thing ever)

antipodean

@Kruse said in All Blacks v Japan:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:

Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?

Did anybody think ever that he had smarts above.... (insert the most offensive thing ever)

I don't understand how he has a job. Anyone remotely competent would say "convincing on the scoreboard but some things to address around patience, defence and decision making as we face a much tougher test over the next few weeks?"

Kruse

As our "analysis show" talks about Finau's defensive game while showing clip after clip of him with the ball running forward.

sparky

I've said before, I'll say it again, I don't know why Sky Sports NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about the inane horse shit they are served up.

Canes4life

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

I've said before, I'll say it again, I don't know why Sky Sports NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about the inane horse shit they are served up.

Agreed, it seems to be getting worse every year.