A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...
Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
Finishes 64-19.
In attack, that will do.
In defence, very worrying signs.
We will be hitting walls at the gain line for the next 3 weeks so im quite concerned.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Japan:
so we haven't gotten rid of that final 20 curse, we were told that they'd fixed it in the final bledisloe...
2 tries?
A load of tries there for Kirsty and Goldie to wax lyrical over, the week before we get our arses handed to us over 3 consecutive weekends.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...
Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.
My biggest pain with the ABs atm is persisting with guys that are clearly past it. We need to move on from Cane, Perenara, Havili etc. There is clearly enough talent for us to cope so why not build for the future.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
Positives:
- Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
- Aumua (except esrly throwing)
- DMac's defence
- Telea showing some form
- Pat T's breakdown work
- Wallace confirming he's starting XV material
Negatives
- Poor defence
- Lack of focus - particularity in second half
- Scrum didn't dominate
- Poor kick options - esp.DMAC
Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.
@Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:
A load of tries there for Kirsty and Goldie to wax lyrical over, the week before we get our arses handed to us over 3 consecutive weekends.
Before they hyperventilate with excitement, can someone tell them it's only Japan, they are ranked 14th in the world and coached by a guy on a sinecure?
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...
Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.
Sometimes, classy players make things happen. He strikes me as one of those players. Like young Beaudy or Will Jordan. The ball bounces his way as he is so sharp off the mark.
Perofeta has had ample time to score some "regulation tries" and hasnt.
All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.
@Victor-Meldrew That's fair. I'd add Ruben Love coming on, making his debut and showing his class to the positives.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:
All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.
Did you and @Bones enjoy the game together?
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:
A lot of praise for Love for scoring two pretty regulation tries...
Don't disagree that he's a talent but if everyone had the same expectations for Tele'a and Reece then they would have been blown away by some of the things they did today.
My biggest pain with the ABs atm is persisting with guys that are clearly past it. We need to move on from Cane, Perenara, Havili etc. There is clearly enough talent for us to cope so why not build for the future.
And we can see that the likes of Sititi, Tosi, Ratima, Love are not over awed when given the chance.
We have been too conservative at the selection table for about 5 years now.
The likes of TJP and Beaudy are albatrosses around our necks at this stage.
Let the young lads cook.
Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?
Does he have an acquired brain injury or is that written in his contract to have his tongue shoved that far up the AB coach's arse?
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:
Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?
He's a Grade A tosser.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:
Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?
Did anybody think ever that he had smarts above.... (insert the most offensive thing ever)
@Kruse said in All Blacks v Japan:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Japan:
Wheeler: You must be extremely proud?
Did anybody think ever that he had smarts above.... (insert the most offensive thing ever)
I don't understand how he has a job. Anyone remotely competent would say "convincing on the scoreboard but some things to address around patience, defence and decision making as we face a much tougher test over the next few weeks?"
As our "analysis show" talks about Finau's defensive game while showing clip after clip of him with the ball running forward.
I've said before, I'll say it again, I don't know why Sky Sports NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about the inane horse shit they are served up.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
I've said before, I'll say it again, I don't know why Sky Sports NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about the inane horse shit they are served up.
Agreed, it seems to be getting worse every year.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:
All in all a bit of an average game, I know not top team etc, but a combination of a real crap field and not a lot of connection in either team left me thinking it not a test I'll remember for a long time.
Did you and @Bones enjoy the game together?
Hey now, I'm not always negative.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:
A load of tries there for Kirsty and Goldie to wax lyrical over, the week before we get our arses handed to us over 3 consecutive weekends.
Before they hyperventilate with excitement, can someone tell them it's only Japan, they are ranked 14th in the world and coached by a guy on a sinecure?
tick for vocab.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
Positives:
- Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
- Aumua (except esrly throwing)
- DMac's defence
- Telea showing some form
- Pat T's breakdown work
- Wallace confirming he's starting XV material
Negatives
- Poor defence
- Lack of focus - particularity in second half
- Scrum didn't dominate
- Poor kick options - esp.DMAC
Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.
Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
I've said before, I'll say it again, I don't know why Sky Sports NZ subscribers ain't in open revolt about the inane horse shit they are served up.
Cos we don't watch it. This no revolt, as they talk amongst themselves blowing smoke up average players arses
@booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:
Positives:
- Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
- Aumua (except esrly throwing)
- DMac's defence
- Telea showing some form
- Pat T's breakdown work
- Wallace confirming he's starting XV material
Negatives
- Poor defence
- Lack of focus - particularity in second half
- Scrum didn't dominate
- Poor kick options - esp.DMAC
Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.
Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.
I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.
We smacked them on the scoreboard because we have way better players. A lot of our tries came from Japan missing like 5 or 6 regulation tackles. We didn't really play with great structure to get go forward and then open holes in their defense. Other than a couple of very late tries, we were also poor again in the 2nd 40, which has happened in every single game bar Wallabies 2. Even the good win against Argentina we fell off the pace in the 2nd half. That's a real concern at the moment, we can't afford to be that bad against the top sides.
That said, opposition like Japan in their current form can bring you down to their level, so it's difficult to take too much out of it. England is going to be very interesting.
The whole thing had an end of season Barbarians "let throw the ball around" feel to it.
Get ready for the intensity to be turned from 1 to 10 for the next three weeks.
@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:
The whole thing had an end of season Barbarians "let throw the ball around" feel to it.
Get ready for the intensity to be turned from 1 to 10 for the next three weeks.
The next 3 weeks will be a different sport.
Dublin on a Friday night, with a pissed up after work crowd, the RWC quarters, Ioane-gate fresh in the memory.
We are in for a hiding.