@game_film said in England vs Springboks:
Just don’t think England have the cattle. Dan Cole in 2024. Henry Slade in 2024. Not got the dudes.
You can carry those guys and ask them to do a job so long as the coaching is good and the other 13 players on the pitch engage their brains.
@sparky said in England vs Springboks:
PSDT has been outstanding. Again. What a player!
Best in the world imo. Better than Dupont.
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Itoje cost them 2 tries
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
If they had Foster they might've.
@MiketheSnow said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Itoje cost them 2 tries
Woulda coulda shoulda
@sparky said in England vs Springboks:
Time running out for England.
As soon as the last try it was all over, England don't have the composure and bok defence to good for them to score ten in ten
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@MiketheSnow said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Itoje cost them 2 tries
Woulda coulda shoulda
2 neck rolls which nullified two try scoring opportunities
@junior said in England vs Springboks:
@game_film said in England vs Springboks:
Just don’t think England have the cattle. Dan Cole in 2024. Henry Slade in 2024. Not got the dudes.
You can carry those guys and ask them to do a job so long as the coaching is good and the other 13 players on the pitch engage their brains.
They are! They're trying to figure out what to do to get some shape because their coaching is terrible.
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Actually watching the game.
@MajorRage said in England vs Springboks:
Smartest team in intl rugby vs dumbest.
Wales says hold my beer
@MiketheSnow said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@MiketheSnow said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Itoje cost them 2 tries
Woulda coulda shoulda
2 neck rolls which nullified two try scoring opportunities
Not to mention two incredibly soft Bok tries
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@junior said in England vs Springboks:
@game_film said in England vs Springboks:
Just don’t think England have the cattle. Dan Cole in 2024. Henry Slade in 2024. Not got the dudes.
You can carry those guys and ask them to do a job so long as the coaching is good and the other 13 players on the pitch engage their brains.
They are! They're trying to figure out what to do to get some shape because their coaching is terrible.
If that's them engaging their brains, it doesn't say much about the English "public" school system.
@junior said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@junior said in England vs Springboks:
@game_film said in England vs Springboks:
Just don’t think England have the cattle. Dan Cole in 2024. Henry Slade in 2024. Not got the dudes.
You can carry those guys and ask them to do a job so long as the coaching is good and the other 13 players on the pitch engage their brains.
They are! They're trying to figure out what to do to get some shape because their coaching is terrible.
If that's them engaging their brains, it doesn't say much about the English "public" school system.
Maybe shuffle Borthwick into a selector position, he's got that almost spot on. Then get some coaches, fuck any coaches. They can't be worse.
Scoreline flattered England in the end. Even though they went down to 14 men that was fairly comfortable for South Africa in the end.
@sparky said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 Nah, Maro Itoje.
Made George Bridge look like Cheslin Kolbe today.
Saffers never looked like losing that, they are a very good team, dare I say the current best team in the world. England looked like they always tried to find new ways of fucking it up
@Machpants said in England vs Springboks:
@sparky said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 Nah, Maro Itoje.
He'll get rated 8 in the English press
"Itoje stood alone, a gladiator in the arena, valiantly - and single-handedly - fighting the hordes of south africa's lions..." - Stephen Jones, tomorrow, in whatever shitty rag he writes for these days.
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
Very good players trying to do it on their own outside the gameplan
Yep, individually they are fine, as a team poor..
England should have won this
Based on what?
Actually watching the game.
SA played poorly. Not accurate and discipline let them down. England in with a real chance there
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@sparky said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 Nah, Maro Itoje.
Made George Bridge look like Cheslin Kolbe today.
He made Reuben O'Neill look like John Eales.
@Tordah said in England vs Springboks:
England looked like they always tried to find new ways of fucking it up
TBF, they exceeded all expectations.
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
“We’re a very clever rugby team” George.
I think they are. This is a team of individuals trying their best to work together and doing a bloody good job - all in spite of the coaching. They were in the running to beat everyone this season despite being given no direction.
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Tordah said in England vs Springboks:
England looked like they always tried to find new ways of fucking it up
TBF, they exceeded all expectations.
I thought England played well, especially in the second 40, certainly above my expectations..... was a little surprised they didn't take the 3 with 10mins to go....to bring it within striking distance.... score board pressure and all.
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
“We’re a very clever rugby team” George.
I think they are. This is a team of individuals trying their best to work together and doing a bloody good job - all in spite of the coaching. They were in the running to beat everyone this season despite being given no direction.
ok
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
“We’re a very clever rugby team” George.
I think they are. This is a team of individuals trying their best to work together and doing a bloody good job - all in spite of the coaching. They were in the running to beat everyone this season despite being given no direction.
They might be clever enough to get into positions to score points and even win, but once in that position their decision making - collectively and individually - is just appalling.
@Mattasaurus said in England vs Springboks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England vs Springboks:
@Tordah said in England vs Springboks:
England looked like they always tried to find new ways of fucking it up
TBF, they exceeded all expectations.
I thought England played well, especially in the second 40, certainly above my expectations..... was a little surprised they didn't take the 3 with 10mins to go....to bring it within striking distance.... score board pressure and all.
I was being ironic about exceeding expectations about fucking up, but yeah, I don't think England are that far away from being a really good side.
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
“We’re a very clever rugby team” George.
I think they are. This is a team of individuals trying their best to work together and doing a bloody good job - all in spite of the coaching. They were in the running to beat everyone this season despite being given no direction.
ok
You've outdone yourself. But hey if you're happy to label a team dumb when you scrape home against them..m
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@Bones said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
“We’re a very clever rugby team” George.
I think they are. This is a team of individuals trying their best to work together and doing a bloody good job - all in spite of the coaching. They were in the running to beat everyone this season despite being given no direction.
ok
You've outdone yourself. But hey if you're happy to label a team dumb when you scrape home against them..m
Relief at winning. Yeah, England look to on the edge of being a great team. Since last year.
