@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA Mate did you watched the two WCs. Two totally different oppositions and play style.
Did you watch them?
Big tight five forwards with limited fitness and kick for the sky. That's the plan. It worked and good on them.
Watching back now.
Firrst scrum penalty was a joke. Ox drops his bind and turned in, driving up to try and make it look like Tupou was under pressure. No forward momentum from the Boks.
Doleman gamed. Big time.
Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie. Move on, your team played some great rugby and deserve more then blaming the ref.
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie.
It is so VERY South African to jump in and make that sort of comment when I've talked about literally one decision early in the game.
I'm certainly not about to go making a 40 minute video ranting about how my country is the victim of decisions and implying racism is the root cause
Noticeable in the Bok defence early is the role Pollard plays on edge defence - does a lot of organising.
I was at the game and haven't watched a TV replay, so I can't comment on any of the tight calls.
Of course I am happy with the Bok win.
BUT - at no point did I feel confident. I thought the Wallabies were excellent and but for a few missed kicks, this result could have looked different.
I don't know whether it is Boks being weak, or the Aussies being strong, but from what I saw, the Wallabies won the forward exchanges. Parity in the scrums - excepting one penalty - superb in the lineout, and better than the Boks at the breakdown. Take the Bok forwards out of the game and then we are vulnerable.
My respect to Aussie.
Hopefully the Boks can build on this, and fast, otherwise the 2 games in NZ are going to be tough to watch.
Jeez de Allende is important to the Bok defensive structure. A couple of times he makes a good read and shuts down the wide option
Having White off so early hurt the Wallabies structures quite a bit.
Oh and Doleman gets a knock on call blatantly wrong. Right in front of him 
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@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
JOC is is the Wallabies version of Libbok.
Harsh
He was instrumental in Australia winning the match last week
Think he took a knock
He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Having White off so early hurt the Wallabies structures quite a bit.
Oh and Doleman gets a knock on call blatantly wrong. Right in front of him
I assume you're watching the game now?
Nic White was a real thorn in the Bok side - losing him was not helpful for the Wallabies.
Boks back field badly caught out for Jorgensen's try. A bit of lucky bounce but Bok 15 too tight to the right edge rather than midfield
@antipodean I am old school Boet, Kiwis did that also in the past, so I dont understand why you dude me?
I am from the Winelands and blaming the ref after a loss, is sour grapes and only make you feel more depressed.
@Billy-Webb said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.
In Rugby League language, that was a fairly ordinary hip-drop tackle by Kolbe.
Would be a penalty, sin bin, and on report for the judiciary
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.In Rugby League language, that was a fairly ordinary hip-drop tackle by Kolbe.
Would be a penalty, sin bin, and on report for the judiciary
I'd have to watch the replay - it was all happening at such speed I didn't notice anything untoward live.
But yeah - JOC was sore after that.
@Billy-Webb it's at about 48::45 game clock coverage on Super Sport's feed. Just after Bell comes on.
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Billy-Webb it's at about 48::45 game clock coverage on Super Sport's feed. Just after Bell comes on.
Thanks - will watch out for it.
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@antipodean I am old school Boet, Kiwis did that also in the past, so I dont understand why you dude me?
I am from the Winelands and blaming the ref after a loss, is sour grapes and only make you feel more depressed.
You slandered an entire country when yours has a well deserved reputation for fuckwittery. It matters not to my point that space in that clown car isn't reserved for you.
@ACT-Crusader said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA terrible news given he is in career best form.
Hopefully it isn't full ACL but his expression after coming off said it all.
Young bloke at our club did his last year and it sounded like a gunshot. Can hear it on camera...
@Billy-Webb agreed. It was fairly even and having not seen the stats i'd imagine they were about even as well.
We won the second half in both matches which is a good sign. Physicality was up as well.
The injuries stopped any momentum, and we needed to deal with that better.
Asking JOC to hit one from 50 out was ambitious. Should have gone touch to set up for something closer.
Nick CdC should have got more time IMHO
We were a few mistakes away from a win, which might have been an injustice. Worst on field was McDermott.
Disrupted performance but still a lot of positives.
Bok: also disrupted a bit by late changes and a swathe of selection changes tho many of them know the drill.
Hard to find rhythm outside "kick it to Cheslin" which worked very well.
Having familiar faces back in the midfield was a positive, however incumbency for long periods can be a problem - replacements are hard to come by.
Going to NZ will be a massive challenge. Does Rassie go back to Libbok? Does he stick with Pollard? Will conditions have a say?
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Billy-Webb agreed. It was fairly even and having not seen the stats i'd imagine they were about even as well.
We won the second half in both matches which is a good sign. Physicality was up as well.
The injuries stopped any momentum, and we needed to deal with that better.
Asking JOC to hit one from 50 out was ambitious. Should have gone touch to set up for something closer.
Nick CdC should have got more time IMHO
We were a few mistakes away from a win, which might have been an injustice. Worst on field was McDermott.
Disrupted performance but still a lot of positives.
Those two highlighted points was my takeaway immediately after the game too.
Physically, this Wallaby team can stand up to and even better many teams. Pardon any perceived arrogance if I say surprisingly so. I now know better.
And they absolutely managed to up the game in the second half in both tests. How much of that can be laid at the Bok door, and how much is to their credit we will only know when they face other opposition - but it is a great place to be for now.
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Bok: also disrupted a bit by late changes and a swathe of selection changes tho many of them know the drill.
Hard to find rhythm outside "kick it to Cheslin" which worked very well.
Having familiar faces back in the midfield was a positive, however incumbency for long periods can be a problem - replacements are hard to come by.
Going to NZ will be a massive challenge. Does Rassie go back to Libbok? Does he stick with Pollard? Will conditions have a say?
Cheslin, Pollard and Grant Williams all played well. The rest of the backs were... meh.
Our forwards and their inability to impose themselves is my real concern.
And no - Rassie will stick with Pollard for NZ.
@Billy-Webb Kriel in the post match saying words to the effect of : "we got back to the way we like to play"
There we go. Anyone who thinks we are in for a Bok revolution in terms of game play probably needs to have a think
