@W32 said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@Jet said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Expected the Boks to give Oz a real mullering after last week but really impressed with the Oz performance.

Either the Boks are weak or the Bledisloe will be in serious danger this year.

Without sounding like a sour grape-ist, the Boks have been living a charmed life for ages.

Robbed England in semi final. Robbed us in the final.

They have been getting the rub of the green with calls for years.

Chickens. Roost. Etc

Hilarious.

Genuinely not on a windup.

Water carriers and physios on pitch at inopportune moments. Tactical injuries.
Disingenuous use of the HIA protocols. Youtube diatribes about referees and calls.
Yellows where opponents get reds.

A lot of bounce of the ball games where they were very lucky to get the rub.
RWC 2023 was barely believable from 1/4's onwards.

Playing the race card by stealth in Lions tour saying Kolisi didnt get same respect from refs as opposition captains, which helped turn the series.

I could go on.

Rassie is a great coach and id go into the trenches with/for him.

But they havnt revolutionised the game or anything. It has been more skullduggery than innovation.

Just watched the replay ..

Really noticed this game was slowed down a lot more at anu stoppage than last weeks - I had to skip fwd a lot more today.

Tate McDermont was pretty poor - shame White had to go so early
Malcolm Marx is every bit a whinger
Kwagga Smith must have conceded the most penalties for an individual in this game.
Valetini is bloody good

High ball, particularly accurate box kicks caused both teams a lot problems.

ABs have a lot of work to do

@Mattasaurus said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Just watched the replay ..

Really noticed this game was slowed down a lot more at anu stoppage than last weeks - I had to skip fwd a lot more today.

Tate McDermont was pretty poor - shame White had to go so early
Malcolm Marx is every bit a whinger
Kwagga Smith must have conceded the most penalties for an individual in this game.
Valetini is bloody good

High ball, particularly accurate box kicks caused both teams a lot problems.

ABs have a lot of work to do

Marx is always in the refs ear about foul play, high shots etc. He loves a bit of panto.

Tough win by the good guys. Underdogs against the All Blacks. Exactly what we want.

Geez that was a good bloody test. Wallabies certainly a team that is playing some good rugby, and Boks still looking pretty hard. Really enjoyable, recorded it , got up 6.30 just watched it great lead into Puma's/AB test. I do love this time of year.

Great game , I found myself supporting the wallabies even though I think a 1-1 result is the best thing for the ABs .

@Dan54 said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Geez that was a good bloody test. Wallabies certainly a team that is playing some good rugby, and Boks still looking pretty hard. Really enjoyable, recorded it , got up 6.30 just watched it great lead into Puma's/AB test. I do love this time of year.

Yeah, hard to judge the boks. Clearly wallabies are one of the form teams in world rugby.

Was expecting more from the boks today.

Kinda reminds me of 2018, when the boks beat us in Wellington. There was lots of talk about putting things right etc but we got hammered for most of the match, i think we only won about 13 rucks in the first half of that match.

We ended up winning (2 late tries - last by Ardie) but it felt undeserved and it was then that i realised we were probably not going to win RWC19.

Similar feeling with the boks over these 2 matches

@JayCee said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Expected the Boks to give Oz a real mullering after last week but really impressed with the Oz performance.

Either the Boks are weak or the Bledisloe will be in serious danger this year.

Bledisloe is going to be epic.

With a win in SA, and playing Argentina at home (very realistic 2 wins - this will be the real indicator, if they can put the Argies away).
The Wallabies could walk away with both Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the wallabies value the bledisloe above the rugby championship and throw everything at that .

And then with the boks supposedly wanting the eden park record , we have some tough matches ahead for certain.

Pretty happy with that from the Wallabies. Looked with 10 to go like we might pinch it, which would have been just amazing considering our injury toll.

Forwards played with so much heart. Our tactic seemed to be 'try and beat them up close to the ruck', which against the Boks in SA seems like a death wish. But jeez did it almost work! Valetini, Skelton, Hooper, Tupou all great shifts in the tight stuff.

Would have loved to pinch the win but it was still a good watch, great physical rugby from both teams.

During the week Rassie made a sly dig about the Wallabies playing "a style that I don't think will win the next world cup".

Particularly funny given he went back to a style that won him the last 2, in order to save face at home.

Anyway saw the highlights. Pitch looked like shit. Bit of chaos ball from both sides return kicking being the mainstay

@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

During the week Rassie made a sly dig about the Wallabies playing "a style that I don't think will win the next world cup".

Particularly funny given he went back to a style that won him the last 2, in order to save face at home.

Anyway saw the highlights. Pitch looked like shit. Bit of chaos ball from both sides return kicking being the mainstay

The over use of the midfield bomb was well and truely back.

The JOC missed kick was a critical turning point I thought.

Overall a decent game and Pollard made a big difference for the Boks. The forward were pretty even.

@NTA Mate did you watched the two WCs. Two totally different oppositions and play style.

JOC is is the Wallabies version of Libbok.

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

JOC is is the Wallabies version of Libbok.

Harsh

He was instrumental in Australia winning the match last week

Think he took a knock

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@NTA Mate did you watched the two WCs. Two totally different oppositions and play style.

Did you watch them?

Big tight five forwards with limited fitness and kick for the sky. That's the plan. It worked and good on them.

Watching back now.

Firrst scrum penalty was a joke. Ox drops his bind and turned in, driving up to try and make it look like Tupou was under pressure. No forward momentum from the Boks.

Doleman gamed. Big time.

@NTA you should watch the quarter-final against France Boet. If that was an unfit team, you must be dreaming.

Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie. Move on, your team played some great rugby and deserve more then blaming the ref.

@OomPB Nche and Mbongi in particular can't go more than a few minutes of continuous play without faking an injury.

You can argue with the facts, but you'd be wrong.

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie.

It is so VERY South African to jump in and make that sort of comment when I've talked about literally one decision early in the game.

I'm certainly not about to go making a 40 minute video ranting about how my country is the victim of decisions and implying racism is the root cause

That's a really nice coaches box.

@NTA agree on Bongi and Eben, they didn't played much rugby all season for the Sharks. Our Japan lot also were rusty. But they will catch up. The All Blacks surely will give them an extra leg like usual. It will be make or break for them.

Noticeable in the Bok defence early is the role Pollard plays on edge defence - does a lot of organising.

McDermott making some very ordinary decisions in the 20 minutes since he came on

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie.

Dude.

What's with the camera angle that has people standing up in front of it?

Very apparent in the first half how much the Boks missed Kolbe last week

I was at the game and haven't watched a TV replay, so I can't comment on any of the tight calls.
Of course I am happy with the Bok win.
BUT - at no point did I feel confident. I thought the Wallabies were excellent and but for a few missed kicks, this result could have looked different.
I don't know whether it is Boks being weak, or the Aussies being strong, but from what I saw, the Wallabies won the forward exchanges. Parity in the scrums - excepting one penalty - superb in the lineout, and better than the Boks at the breakdown. Take the Bok forwards out of the game and then we are vulnerable.
My respect to Aussie.

Hopefully the Boks can build on this, and fast, otherwise the 2 games in NZ are going to be tough to watch.

Jeez de Allende is important to the Bok defensive structure. A couple of times he makes a good read and shuts down the wide option

Having White off so early hurt the Wallabies structures quite a bit.

Oh and Doleman gets a knock on call blatantly wrong. Right in front of him ‍️

@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

JOC is is the Wallabies version of Libbok.

Harsh

He was instrumental in Australia winning the match last week

Think he took a knock

He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.

@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

Having White off so early hurt the Wallabies structures quite a bit.

Oh and Doleman gets a knock on call blatantly wrong. Right in front of him ‍️

I assume you're watching the game now?
Nic White was a real thorn in the Bok side - losing him was not helpful for the Wallabies.

Boks back field badly caught out for Jorgensen's try. A bit of lucky bounce but Bok 15 too tight to the right edge rather than midfield

@antipodean I am old school Boet, Kiwis did that also in the past, so I dont understand why you dude me?

I am from the Winelands and blaming the ref after a loss, is sour grapes and only make you feel more depressed.

@Billy-Webb said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.

In Rugby League language, that was a fairly ordinary hip-drop tackle by Kolbe.

Would be a penalty, sin bin, and on report for the judiciary

@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@Billy-Webb said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

He did - it was quite close to me in the stands. Looked like he was in considerable discomfort (leg / knee) and I actually thought he'd be subbed.
Played on bravely but it is possible it affected his kicking. Most unlike him to miss so many of those last attempts.

In Rugby League language, that was a fairly ordinary hip-drop tackle by Kolbe.

Would be a penalty, sin bin, and on report for the judiciary

I'd have to watch the replay - it was all happening at such speed I didn't notice anything untoward live.
But yeah - JOC was sore after that.

@Billy-Webb it's at about 48::45 game clock coverage on Super Sport's feed. Just after Bell comes on.

@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@Billy-Webb it's at about 48::45 game clock coverage on Super Sport's feed. Just after Bell comes on.

Thanks - will watch out for it.

@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:

@antipodean I am old school Boet, Kiwis did that also in the past, so I dont understand why you dude me?

I am from the Winelands and blaming the ref after a loss, is sour grapes and only make you feel more depressed.

You slandered an entire country when yours has a well deserved reputation for fuckwittery. It matters not to my point that space in that clown car isn't reserved for you.