@stodders said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
World Rugby really need to have a rethink about penalty advantages. If you make 30m and several phases, you have an advantage.
It’s really stupid isn’t it.
Plus the Boks prop went to his knees at that scrum so the ref got it wrong anyway.
Argentina will be filthy with the ref.
Moodie should have been sent off, not that id agree, but its the way the game is reffed.
Thats a yellow card in every other match.
@ExiledHalfback said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
Ref bottled it. Boks get a favourable look from the refs. Not that they see it that way
The best teams tend to get the rub of the green. They paint better pictures. All about the art 
@Frank said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
Is Wilco Louw the strongest scrummager in the world?
No, that’s still Ox Nche.
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@stodders just get away with it constantly.
Is this the Boks version of Richie’s invisibility cloak? 
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
Ref has opened his other eye at scrum time now.
Boks LH was offending for ten minutes before that.
World Rugby need to get a grip on the sport. It has no credibility as a contest anymore.
The man in the middle arbitrarily decides who has a better chance of winning most weeks now.
@Jet said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
Argentina were hatcheted.
That ref is a joke.
Too unbiased?
@W32 said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@Jet said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
Argentina were hatcheted.
That ref is a joke.
Too unbiased?
Moodie should have been sent.
He bottled it completely.
Didnt even give a penalty, as to give a penalty would acknowledge an infringement occurred and he didnt want to put himself in that position.
Cowardice pure and simple.
@Jet said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
World Rugby need to get a grip on the sport. It has no credibility as a contest anymore.
The man in the middle arbitrarily decides who has a better chance of winning most weeks now.
God, do you ever shut up?
Great comeback by Los Pumas, but not quite enough.
Yeah, I think the ref bottled it a bit so the Springboks got lucky today.
But they've been the best team across the tournament as a whole and are worthy winners. Well done to the Springboks and their supporters.
@W32 said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@Jet said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
World Rugby need to get a grip on the sport. It has no credibility as a contest anymore.
The man in the middle arbitrarily decides who has a better chance of winning most weeks now.
God, do you ever shut up?
I think adjudication (refs and TMO's and the laws they are tasked with enforcing) is at an all time low qualitatively, be it from a fairness perspective and enjoyment perspective.
We are being served up a terrible product.
@ExiledHalfback said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
I think France will really test this Boks side
France will have a rock solid scrum, an excellent back row, one of the great players of all time at Half Back and pace to burn out wide.
I rate the South African lineout and kicking game more.
But it will be one hell of a Test match.
@sparky said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@ExiledHalfback said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
I think France will really test this Boks side
France will have a rock solid scrum, an excellent back row, one of the great players of all time at Half Back and pace to burn out wide.
I rate the South African lineout and kicking game more.
But it will be one hell of a Test match.
I think DuPont is out. On today’s performance, France will win.
DuPont is over hyped though
@W32 said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@sparky said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@ExiledHalfback said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
I think France will really test this Boks side
France will have a rock solid scrum, an excellent back row, one of the great players of all time at Half Back and pace to burn out wide.
I rate the South African lineout and kicking game more.
But it will be one hell of a Test match.
I think DuPont is out. On today’s performance, France will win.
DuPont is over hyped though
God, do you ever shut up?
@sparky said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:
@W32 Antonie DuPont did his ACL in March. The last announcement (at the end of June) was that his rehabilitation was in it final stages and his target was to be back playing by the end of November.
Unlikely that he plays the Springboks on 8th November, but not totally impossible.
“It’s going well, but it’s still a long time. It’s my second time with the cruciate ligaments, so I want to be patient and do things right to come back in the best possible condition,” he said before confirming a return to play date. “End of November or beginning of December, it won’t be before then.”
Great game by the Pumas.
Boks were markedly off their best, and some very dumb / elementary errors.
Moodie lucky not to get a second yellow - and red card.
BUT: they did enough (and sometimes played really well). Well done.
I cant say too much because I didn't watch either game today.
In fact I made a point of not watching either game to-day.
I was pretty certain the officiating was going to be diabolical, as it always is in rugby games at the highest level.
But I still follow the game.
From the comments I've read about both games, I was absolutely correct in my assumptions.
The referees are placed in a difficult position with the intense scutiny they are under..
I dont blame them.
But the whole spectatcle for me, makes for a very irritating watch, so I dont.
If you want to see a good game of rugby now days, you should go and watch the amateurs (or juniors), much more fun.
Which is what I do.
From what I have observed tho, the Springboks definitely play the laws of the game (and the referees) better than anyone else at the present.
