@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Im hoping he's pulling a Nonu and playing within himself

It's a neat theory and would be a pleasant surprise - reckon it's a pretty hard sell to a bunch of new selectors though.

"Hey boss, just wanted to let you know I'm not playing to my potential right now - saving myself for the big stuff. You'll see when you select me as starting ten. Thanks."

True, the alternative, that this is now his ceiling, but we have a lack of other options, is almost as bad.

@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Im hoping he's pulling a Nonu and playing within himself so he can step up for international season.

But the concern is this is now his ceiling.

He's not going to suddenly learn how to punt with distance and accuracy.

It's over

There should be no fear with giving Love a go at 10 - it's not like he had this crazy high bar to reach of our recent AB 10 play. Just give the lad a proper crack.

We have such a full calendar this year. Even if he doesn't start straight away, there should be plenty of opportunities to see him in the run on team, and playing meaningful minutes off the bench

@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Im hoping he's pulling a Nonu and playing within himself so he can step up for international season.

But the concern is this is now his ceiling.

He's not going to suddenly learn how to punt with distance and accuracy.

It's over

There should be no fear with giving Love a go at 10 - it's not like he had this crazy high bar to reach of our recent AB 10 play. Just give the lad a proper crack.

Love should have been off the bench 2 years ago, and starting a number of games last year.

Recent ABs coaches have been cr@p at building 10 depth.

Waiting for RMo isn't a plan.

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Im hoping he's pulling a Nonu and playing within himself so he can step up for international season.

But the concern is this is now his ceiling.

He's not going to suddenly learn how to punt with distance and accuracy.

It's over

There should be no fear with giving Love a go at 10 - it's not like he had this crazy high bar to reach of our recent AB 10 play. Just give the lad a proper crack.

Love should have been off the bench 2 years ago, and starting a number of games last year.

Recent ABs coaches have been cr@p at building 10 depth.

Waiting for RMo isn't a plan.

Agreed.

I'm taking a positive view

Given how little rugby Love has played at 10 he looks bloody good. He can help transform the ABs attack.

@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Im hoping he's pulling a Nonu and playing within himself so he can step up for international season.

But the concern is this is now his ceiling.

He's not going to suddenly learn how to punt with distance and accuracy.

It's over

There should be no fear with giving Love a go at 10 - it's not like he had this crazy high bar to reach of our recent AB 10 play. Just give the lad a proper crack.

Love should have been off the bench 2 years ago, and starting a number of games last year.

Recent ABs coaches have been cr@p at building 10 depth.

Waiting for RMo isn't a plan.

Agreed.

I'm taking a positive view

Given how little rugby Love has played at 10 he looks bloody good. He can help transform the ABs attack.

I'm thinking he's currently the best option.

A couple of years ago I was hoping it would be Perofeta, but he's perma crocked and it just never happened.

Love looks the goods, in dominant Canes team but we won’t know how good until he gets time in the AB 10 jersey.

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@nostrildamus who's Dan Carter

some underwear model apparently

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

"Hey boss, just wanted to let you know I'm not playing to my potential right now - saving myself for the big stuff. You'll see when you select me as starting ten. Thanks."

I thought Dan Carter did that before the RWC...

But being serious, my memory is seriously failing me if DC phoned it in for 3 years before a WC and that included a new coaching team in the middle.

who said 3 years? Oh, you did...

@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@nostrildamus who's Dan Carter

some underwear model apparently

I thought he owned a chemist....

@jimmyb He's joining a side who have only won 3 of their last 53 competitive matches.

@Old-Alleynians said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jet

He can't throw under pressure. I wish he could.

Id still have him in the 23...even have him and Codie on the field at the same time in last 20 if needs be.

Bring him on for a loosie if you have to. His impact is huge.

He is one of our only players who stops people dead in contact.

@sparky said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@jimmyb He's joining a side who have only won 3 of their last 53 competitive matches. that is paying him exceptionally more money than what he believed he could earn in NZ.

@SouthernMann Wrong. Someone on an All Blacks top contract will earn more than someone at Newcastle Red Bull.

@sparky said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@SouthernMann Wrong. Someone on an All Blacks top contract will earn more than someone at Newcastle Red Bull.

You didn't proprrly read my post.

I said, what he believed he could earn. Not best case scenario

@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Feels like a long time since we've seen a NZ winger in Fineanganofo's form.

Big, strong, fast and good on the feet.

Do we pick him this year for the ABs and deal with next year, next year?

I am starting to think he is the player I am waiting for Clarke to be.

What! Clarke has been good too. I know it's hard to praise Blues players these days but come on, Clarke is a world class winger as well.

Don't think the fulla knows his true value

@SouthernMann I did read it properly. I just wanted to irritate you. Mission accomplished.

@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Feels like a long time since we've seen a NZ winger in Fineanganofo's form.

Big, strong, fast and good on the feet.

Do we pick him this year for the ABs and deal with next year, next year?

I am starting to think he is the player I am waiting for Clarke to be.

What! Clarke has been good too. I know it's hard to praise Blues players these days but come on, Clarke is a world class winger as well.

Fucking hell, it's got nothing to do with praising, not praising Blues players. I don't give a rats about where players are from.

Although, I am yet to form an opinion on Fineanganofo's ability under the high ball.

@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Jnr said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Feels like a long time since we've seen a NZ winger in Fineanganofo's form.

Big, strong, fast and good on the feet.

Do we pick him this year for the ABs and deal with next year, next year?

I am starting to think he is the player I am waiting for Clarke to be.

What! Clarke has been good too. I know it's hard to praise Blues players these days but come on, Clarke is a world class winger as well.

Fucking hell, it's got nothing to do with praising, not praising Blues players. I don't give a rats about where players are from.

Although, I am yet to form an opinion on Fineanganofo's ability under the high ball.

Yeah well come on, it was more your wording on Caleb Clarke, you made him out like he's still trying to find his feet at this level lol.

And yes I am on the Fineanganofo bandwagon. I remember his performance in round 1 against the Crusaders last year thinking he had a lot going for him. Didn't think he'd explode like this though!

@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

"Hey boss, just wanted to let you know I'm not playing to my potential right now - saving myself for the big stuff. You'll see when you select me as starting ten. Thanks."

I thought Dan Carter did that before the RWC...

But being serious, my memory is seriously failing me if DC phoned it in for 3 years before a WC and that included a new coaching team in the middle.

who said 3 years? Oh, you did...

What

Can we have Holland back ad strike coach for the ABs?

@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Can we have Holland back ad strike coach for the ABs?

Hopefully at the very least Jason Holland and Mike Blair will have a few coffees together and share their ideas. It is going to be fascinating to see what an outsider, with no allegiance to any province or Super franchise, does to the AB backline.

@sparky said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Can we have Holland back ad strike coach for the ABs?

Hopefully at the very least Holland and Mike Blair will have a few coffees together and share their ideas. It is going to be fascinating to see what an outsider, with no allegiance to any province or Super franchise, does to the AB backline.

Can he start by convincing NZRU to break Fehi’s contract?

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

"Hey boss, just wanted to let you know I'm not playing to my potential right now - saving myself for the big stuff. You'll see when you select me as starting ten. Thanks."

I thought Dan Carter did that before the RWC...

But being serious, my memory is seriously failing me if DC phoned it in for 3 years before a WC and that included a new coaching team in the middle.

who said 3 years? Oh, you did...

What

It is in the statement by you. I only need to refer to Dan Carter the season before a RWC not the entire 3 or 4 years.
Did Dan Carter play to his full potential before the RWC?
Do I suddenly have to refer to 3 years, 3 seasons? I think not.

@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Can we have Holland back ad strike coach for the ABs?

he's doing the Hurricane's phase attack though - Bryn Evans and Brad Cooper are responsible for the strike plays.

@restofit said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@booboo said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

Can we have Holland back ad strike coach for the ABs?

he's doing the Hurricane's phase attack though - Bryn Evans and Brad Cooper are responsible for the strike plays.

Ok. Can we grab them then?

@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

@Bones said in Hurricanes vs Brumbies:

"Hey boss, just wanted to let you know I'm not playing to my potential right now - saving myself for the big stuff. You'll see when you select me as starting ten. Thanks."

I thought Dan Carter did that before the RWC...

But being serious, my memory is seriously failing me if DC phoned it in for 3 years before a WC and that included a new coaching team in the middle.

who said 3 years? Oh, you did...

What

It is in the statement by you. I only need to refer to Dan Carter the season before a RWC not the entire 3 or 4 years.
Did Dan Carter play to his full potential before the RWC?
Do I suddenly have to refer to 3 years, 3 seasons? I think not.

What

With the notable exceptions of his miracle passes which failed to find someone to catch them, Ruben Love had a great game. Running and kicking from hand were outstanding. FF, Dearns and the bomb squad (Numia - Aumua - Tosi) were the best in a well-coached team.