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Jayden is much shorter so more a 6 than a lock. The stats show that Sa made much more tackles than Parker despite the difference in minutes played. He was busy.
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
Thought the refs stuffed up a bit, but still don't know for sure that was a try by reds on halftime.
You need to take another look at the slow mo angle from behind - it's a clear try
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
Thought the refs stuffed up a bit, but still don't know for sure that was a try by reds on halftime.
You need to take another look at the slow mo angle from behind - it's a clear try
I did just before, it looks like one to me.
Just a matter of interest, I just watched a Prem game from England and commentators are pointing out just as many offsides etc that they think were missed, just not quite as stridently as the ones from last night.
Asking a favour of the ones who know how to do it. Can you take a screenshot of the disputed try, and post it here, showing the ball over or on the line, on the ground and it being pressed down by a Reds player?
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
Naa mate , on an Aussie rugby site where a couple of Aussie boys asked for it.
I honestly not too worried, I'm of the school if it get's given it a try, if it not it's not on scoreboard.
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
Naa mate , on an Aussie rugby site where a couple of Aussie boys asked for it.
I honestly not too worried, I'm of the school if it get's given it a try, if it not it's not on scoreboard.
They should just get rid of the TMO. It balances out in the end.
I'm here to whinge about the whinging.
The crowd and the partisan idiots in the commentary team need to open their other eye.
The comms fed off the crowd starting to get feral. Every time they saw a bobble it was the most egregious preplanned conspiracised decision in the history of the world.
Would suggest they check the law book and definition of a knock on (it needs to go forward). Most of the stuff they were booing about they were wrong. But it just fed their rage.
Just read through the thread and whoever described Turuni as unprofessional was 100% correct.
The biggest mistake by the ref, and he deserves criticism for it, was not checking the knock-ons before the Hutchison "try". But even then Reds got lucky in eventual outcome in that no card was issued for the cynical play at the halfback.
And moving on ... Re the not try to Qld at halftime. Nobody saw a grounding over the line.
Both on field officials desperately searching, right there, hands and knees etc.
The replay we saw did show the ball on the ground, but did not show the ball on the ground over or on or touching the line. (Just checked on Stan).
I'm not buying there was sufficient evidence to overturn the on-field decision.
Having said that there would not have been sufficient evidence to overturn an on-field decision of try.
In summary, good guys won, and I reckon if you did a review of the officiating I think you'd find they got more right than wrong.
@brodean said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
Naa mate , on an Aussie rugby site where a couple of Aussie boys asked for it.
I honestly not too worried, I'm of the school if it get's given it a try, if it not it's not on scoreboard.They should just get rid of the TMO. It balances out in the end.
Yeah or just reduce thier scope to foul play and the scoring act, give refs the freedom to be more decisive..
If a ref waves play on for a call, wear it, don't have the TMO call it back a minute later checking and rechecking that ball that probably went forward and inch.
@taniwharugby said in Reds v Chiefs:
@brodean said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
Naa mate , on an Aussie rugby site where a couple of Aussie boys asked for it.
I honestly not too worried, I'm of the school if it get's given it a try, if it not it's not on scoreboard.They should just get rid of the TMO. It balances out in the end.
Yeah or just reduce thier scope to foul play and the scoring act, give refs the freedom to be more decisive..
If a ref waves play on for a call, wear it, don't have the TMO call it back a minute later checking and rechecking that ball that probably went forward and inch.
I would happily reduce the involvement of the TMO, but only if people didn't whinge when the replays show an error. The whinging and bitching is why we have the system we have now. We have what we deserve.
@Crazy-Horse absolutely fair call.
Maybe there could be a directive on what they replay on the big.screen (eg just the movement rather than focus on a specific moment)
Endless slo mo replays (still sometimes wrong) do no-one any good, especially the game.
Just catching up on this game. Bright spots for me were Sititi, Sa, Hutchinson and Norris. Couple of nice touches from Brown too.
Parker disappointing with a couple of bad mistakes. It's a very good Reds loose trio to be fair, but if you want to be the ABs starting blindside I don't think you can be the worst loosie from both teams in a Super game. Remains a problem position for us.
One does wonder when a crowd seems this feral if the officials don't get a bit nervous. Lots of non calls and a couple of apparently dangerous hits allowed to pass by. Re the no try I can't see the clear touchdown that so many are claiming. I do think he probably scored nevertheless. But there were a couple of chiefs limbs that looked like they might stop the touchdown
Pleased that the Chiefs showed composure. I thought the interference allowed on both half backs was way excessive. Well done to them!
Flook and Paisami were a handful.
Liking what I am seeing from Hutchinson and Norris.
@Crazy-Horse said in Reds v Chiefs:
I would happily reduce the involvement of the TMO, but only if people didn't whinge when the replays show an error. The whinging and bitching is why we have the system we have now. We have what we deserve.
SRP has decided to minimise interventions from the TMO, unless it is foul play. The ref needs to ask them, which is very different to up north.
@Crazy-Horse said in Reds v Chiefs:
@taniwharugby said in Reds v Chiefs:
@brodean said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
@KiwiMurph said in Reds v Chiefs:
@Dan54 said in Reds v Chiefs:
That will put discussion on it to rest, and we can see the proof that the ref needed to say it was definitely a try.
Discussion coming from.... you?
It was clear the refs messed up
Naa mate , on an Aussie rugby site where a couple of Aussie boys asked for it.
I honestly not too worried, I'm of the school if it get's given it a try, if it not it's not on scoreboard.They should just get rid of the TMO. It balances out in the end.
Yeah or just reduce thier scope to foul play and the scoring act, give refs the freedom to be more decisive..
If a ref waves play on for a call, wear it, don't have the TMO call it back a minute later checking and rechecking that ball that probably went forward and inch.
I would happily reduce the involvement of the TMO, but only if people didn't whinge when the replays show an error. The whinging and bitching is why we have the system we have now. We have what we deserve.
I blame South Africans.
said in Reds v Chiefs:
I'm here to whinge about the whinging.
The crowd and the partisan idiots in the commentary team need to open their other eye.
The comms fed off the crowd starting to get feral. Every time they saw a bobble it was the most egregious preplanned conspiracised decision in the history of the world.
Would suggest they check the law book and definition of a knock on (it needs to go forward). Most of the stuff they were booing about they were wrong. But it just fed their rage.
Just read through the thread and whoever described Turuni as unprofessional was 100% correct.
The biggest mistake by the ref, and he deserves criticism for it, was not checking the knock-ons before the Hutchison "try". But even then Reds got lucky in eventual outcome in that no card was issued for the cynical play at the halfback.
And moving on ... Re the not try to Qld at halftime. Nobody saw a grounding over the line.
Both on field officials desperately searching, right there, hands and knees etc.
The replay we saw did show the ball on the ground, but did not show the ball on the ground over or on or touching the line. (Just checked on Stan).
I'm not buying there was sufficient evidence to overturn the on-field decision.
Having said that there would not have been sufficient evidence to overturn an on-field decision of try.
In summary, good guys won, and I reckon if you did a review of the officiating I think you'd find they got more right than wrong.
Was going to add in this post re the TMO no try call that I'm pretty sure the TMOs have multiple hi def monitors and thus are looking at multiple simultaneous angles. So that they can check the timing of when the ball touches the ground and can compare it to where the ball is relative to the tryline on the other screen. Whilst we see one angle at a time.