@KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
No injuries was the best part of tonight's game.
Looked to me like Moli left the field injured.
Looked like cramp for Moli.
Geez how long was he on for?
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
No injuries was the best part of tonight's game.
Looked to me like Moli left the field injured.
Looked like cramp for Moli.
Geez how long was he on for?
He started...
Are you getting mixed up with Ta'avao?
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
We ain't scoring that against anyone who makes the Quarters
We’re not playing the quarters right now.
Hah I immediately thought yo'd quoted Chris.
Fuck off Bones
Job done for the AB's. 5 in the bag.
But what a weird game to watch. NZ seemed to be trying to play at ultra-high speed. Maybe seeing if they could take something from the Japanese play-book that proved successful against Ireland?
But conditions definitely didn't look helpful. That's probably more unforced errors in one game than the AB's have made all season.
But you can't argue with a 63 point victory.
@Billy-Webb a feature of the AB team the past couple of years has been poor handling. They've upped the tempo now though and a lot more are sticking, with probably the same amount being spilled.
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
SBW I reckon a big possibility to start.
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Nope. Maybe Jordie on bench for bender. Webb for TJ, but TJ was great Vs SA so I don't think so
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Weber perhaps?
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
SBW I reckon a big possibility.
Yeah have to agree best game from SBW in a while
@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Can't see Weber being used past pool play.
Totally agree
TJ sucked tonight, but there is no way we are replacing A Smith with Weber with 10mins to go in a RWC knockout game.
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Weber perhaps?
Game changed when he came on great pass and runs great support lines would not have thought that was a chance to take TJs spot before the WC but Webber was very good.
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Weber perhaps?
Game changed when he came on great pass and runs great support lines would not have thought that was a chance to take TJs spot before the WC but Webber was very good.
It depends on if the coaches are going to read anything into the play from the match.
I doubt they will, but the backline seemed to run much better when TJP went off.
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Japanese play-book
You realise that the "Japanese play-book" is basically the NZ rugby playbook right down to schoolboy level right? I was taught as a kid 40 years ago about 'Power, Possession, Pace'.
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
TJ sucked tonight, but there is no way we are replacing A Smith with Weber with 10mins to go in a RWC knockout game.
Even 16 and 20 years on all roads lead to an untested centre combo and the temptation of using an inexperienced halfback to close out the game...
If we are going to lose this RWC can we at least do it in an original way?
@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Nope. Maybe Jordie on bench for bender. Webb for TJ, but TJ was great Vs SA so I don't think so
You would think Hansen and co know exactly who are playing the SF and Final if we make it
So maybe Game one v SA is the 23
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Weber perhaps?
Game changed when he came on great pass and runs great support lines would not have thought that was a chance to take TJs spot before the WC but Webber was very good.
It depends on if the coaches are going to read anything into the play from the match.
I doubt they will, but the backline seemed to run much better when TJP went off.
Weber is an excellent halfback to play against teams outside of the powerhouse teams, but I'd be very nervous with him playing against SA, England, Ireland, Wales, France....maybe not Aus. His speed and anticipation are great, but I don't think he measures up to Smith or Perenara against the big teams.
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Japanese play-book
You realise that the "Japanese play-book" is basically the NZ rugby playbook right down to schoolboy level right? I was taught as a kid 40 years ago about 'Power, Possession, Pace'.
Nope - did not know that.
If so, they do seem to do it better than you :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:
Yeah Weber is arguably more useful to play against the minnows than Perenara. Weber's lightning fast service and decisiveness on attack opens everything up whereas Perenara plays minnows like he is playing trick shot pool.
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Japanese play-book
You realise that the "Japanese play-book" is basically the NZ rugby playbook right down to schoolboy level right? I was taught as a kid 40 years ago about 'Power, Possession, Pace'.
Nope - did not know that.
If so, they do seem to do it better than you :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:
Sheesh, one win over Ireland ....
Ok all jokes aside about Rieko, there is no doubt that on current form he's not in the big match day 23.
However, I think Rieko's ceiling is much higher than that of either Bridge or Reece, and therefore he should be given much opportunity to regain confidence & form. I would do that via 60 minutes (at least) in both of the remaining pool matches, as Bridge & Reece should both get time as well.
I'm still a bit lost on Ben Smith. Arguably my biggest man crush of the last few years, but he just doesn't look as dynamic as either of the two (current) incumbents ... and its clear the Mo'ounga / Barrett combo is not going to change.
Decisions, decisions.
@Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Japanese play-book
You realise that the "Japanese play-book" is basically the NZ rugby playbook right down to schoolboy level right? I was taught as a kid 40 years ago about 'Power, Possession, Pace'.
Nope - did not know that.
If so, they do seem to do it better than you :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:Sheesh, one win over Ireland ....
HANSEN:
The man who masterminded the All Blacks' RWC 2015 triumph said that his team could learn a thing or two from the breathless and inventive nature of the Japanese attacking.
"We'd be very silly if we didn't because they did plenty to give us to think about," said Hansen on Monday. "Their speed of ball was great, their line speed awesome, they just kept coming, time after time after time.
"They showed a lot of courage, intent and a lot of skill, so hats off to them. It was a really great performance and one the whole of Japan should be proud of.
"We like to play fast. I don't know if we want to play that fast - or if we can play that fast. In the humidity, it certainly affected the Irish, that speed of the game."
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Ok all jokes aside about Rieko, there is no doubt that on current form he's not in the big match day 23.
However, I think Rieko's ceiling is much higher than that of either Bridge or Reece, and therefore he should be given much opportunity to regain confidence & form. I would do that via 60 minutes (at least) in both of the remaining pool matches, as Bridge & Reece should both get time as well.
I'm still a bit lost on Ben Smith. Arguably my biggest man crush of the last few years, but he just doesn't look as dynamic as either of the two (current) incumbents ... and its clear the Mo'ounga / Barrett combo is not going to change.
Decisions, decisions.
Hard to say, because he's played much more test rugby. They're also very different players with different skill sets. Reece may be a bit more limited, but I think Bridge has the potential to become a star like Rieko.
I thought Rieko started to show some positive signs in the second half. Something to build on.
He's still a long way behind Bridge and Reece at the moment though. They are the clear cut starters.
@Chris said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Has anyone forced their way into the top 23 if SA Selection for game one is the top 23 ?
Todd didn't play against S Africa; he suffered a minor injury before that game and probably would have been in the 23 without the injury. So he might play in the big games (from the bench).
@Billy-Webb I guess we might find that out in the QF's:japanese_dolls: :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:
@MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
Ok all jokes aside about Rieko, there is no doubt that on current form he's not in the big match day 23.
However, I think Rieko's ceiling is much higher than that of either Bridge or Reece, and therefore he should be given much opportunity to regain confidence & form. I would do that via 60 minutes (at least) in both of the remaining pool matches, as Bridge & Reece should both get time as well.
I'm still a bit lost on Ben Smith. Arguably my biggest man crush of the last few years, but he just doesn't look as dynamic as either of the two (current) incumbents ... and its clear the Mo'ounga / Barrett combo is not going to change.
Decisions, decisions.
It's weird what's happening with Ioane eh. Have to wonder if it's something to do with the way the AB's play that he's really struggling to adjust to? He was pretty good for the Blues this season wasn't he? Same with Ben Smith - both at the moment just seem to really struggle with finding/creating space and just look lacklustre.
I'm not so sure on Ioane's ceiling being that much higher though. Some positive signs today for sure.
Impossible to take anything from this game after 35 minutes - humidity was a greater factor than the opposition. Ever played against a team so bad that they get in the way solely because better teams shouldn't be there?
Bonus point win and no known injuries, I'll take that.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool B):
I thought Rieko started to show some positive signs in the second half. Something to build on.
He's still a long way behind Bridge and Reece at the moment though. They are the clear cut starters.
Agreed.
I counted a few dropped balls early on (before we really started dropping it and even then it tended to be the forwards who were sweaty) and a lot of runs that were pretty ineffective (i.e. running into defenders immediately when given some space).
Checking the stats, there's nothing too good or bad in there considering the options and I haven't seen enough of the second half yet (gaddamn work getting in the way of rugby...).
If he was hoping to prove he was back in contention against a weaker team, I think he's still at least one game away from doing that.
Frizzle is still a bit of a "jurys out" headscratcher moment.
He started very well, but faded as the game wore on.
Thought Weber speeded up our backline play and gave the backs more freedom to stretch the attack. But I take the point about replacing A Smith in a Quarter/semi/final with him, he is dynamic but TJ has the experience, and seems to have better perspective in the big games.
Can see Todd easily making the bench.
The conundrum is BBBR and how they will accommodate him.
