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@Nepia said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

An improved broadcast deal for RA.

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Rugby Australia’s next five-year broadcast deal could be worth as much as $250 million if its Super Rugby franchises and the Wallabies return to winning ways.

The Financial Review revealed that the cash-strapped governing body could earn as much as $30m in incentives should its teams meet certain criteria. The extra cash would be in addition to a five-year deal worth a fraction over $210m – or 42m per annum.

“We can confirm we’ve reached an in-principle agreement with Rugby Australia,” a Nine spokesman told the AFR’s Zoe Samios. “We will share more details in due course as we finalise the contractual arrangements.”

Awesome, hopefully they'll pay NZR back the Dosh we're gave them over the last few years

It's completely weird that Oz is getting an improved deal, and if the stories are to be believed we're getting a much worse deal when SR ratings were up in NZ last year.

Good for me, I was worried Fox/Kayo might get them back.

I think you will find the Wallabies will have to win everything (including WC) to get incentives. But in reality even at $42 mill a year if they do get it, still $3mill a year less than they got before 2019. Hopefully the reports are true, and they do get more cash, they badly need it.

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

But in reality even at $42 mill a year if they do get it, still $3mill a year less than they got before 2019

The $42 mil per year is before incentives.

Incentives would bump it up closer to $50 mil per year

So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

firstly i think if they keep taking from inside aus then theyre just stunting the franchises growing, someone outside the current system would be good for me

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

Downtown Tony Brown?

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?

Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?

Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Yeah nah

Ireland great and La Rochelle coach Ronan O’Gara has thrown his hat into the Wallabies coaching ring as Rugby Australia confirmed they are open to sourcing overseas candidates for the Wallabies job.

@KiwiMurph would have strong credentials knowing the arch enemy plus the NH experience.

Cully suggesting Vern Cotter.

I could see that. Will be an interesting sub plot for the next few months.

No fucking way Cheika. Fuck that. Might as well get Eddie back.

ROG is such a twat.

These aren't great choices

@NTA said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

ROG is such a twat.

But he's a coach that puts it all out there for his team, so not a bad idea imo

@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@NTA said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

ROG is such a twat.

But he's a coach that puts it all out there for his team, so not a bad idea imo

Which is what Cheika did, while acting the twat, and got the whole Rugby playing part of the nation a reputation while he was at it.

I'd have thought Steve Larkham is a shoe-in to get the Wallabies gig after Joe Schmidt.

@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?

Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Yeah nah

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i feel this is one of those times the stats dont give the whole picture, he also got them to the RWC final in 2015...and feel (un researched or confirmed) there was a generational loss of talent in the years afterwards...i feel they might be on the way up again (fingers crossed) and someone like him might be able to do something with that

Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

I don't think that type of coach is what we need right now. I prefer the Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt-type quiet tactician and I get the sense RA does as well.

@barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

@barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press

I actually think the best landing spot for Cheika would be the Western Force. Feels like they are stagnating a bit both on and off the field.

@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

@barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press

Smash and grab, eh?

@Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

@barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press

Smash and grab, eh?

Solid history. Of something....

very cool news, one of the guys that came through our junior and senior clubs, played in the Grand Final last year, our MVP award is named after his dad, real club legends, has been named on the bench for the Brumbies, club group chat going off

Mate that's fucking great for him and for the club! Get that all over socials

@NTA trust me, its happening

for all those people running rugby that dont think there should be a connection between the club game and the pro game....or just dont care, fuck you, half the club is probably going to go to the pub to watch the game, seeing people you have a connection with play matters, ive instantly got a softspot for the Brumbies

Wallabies captain Harry Wilson has committed long-term to Australian Rugby, signing a four-year extension.

The deal sees Wilson commit his future to Queensland and Australia until the end of the 2029 season, the first Wallaby to do so.

That's good news for Oz

Ikitau confirmed to be moving to Exeter after the 2025 Rugby Championship:

It looks to be a deal not too dissimilar to what Fainga'anuku has done, where he'll go for a season or two to Europe before returning to Super Rugby. At least, that's what Christy Doran is reporting at The Roar.

Any reason why so many Aussies go to Exeter? Is there a link between them and Aussie rugby?

So aside from the societies media blow up, this is what the 5 year residency rules mean, poaching players at a younger age. Pushing the pro wage to lower and lower age brackets, which often isn't great in the long term for younger peoples mental health and the health of the game in schools

Needing official clearance from club, state and national representatives before any such moves can be made official

Wait, what? Did I read something wrong? He's 16 and has no contract.

@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Needing official clearance from club, state and national representatives before any such moves can be made official

Wait, what? Did I read something wrong? He's 16 and has no contract.

Yeah it's a bit confusing, I think those rules kick in at 17. But AR want clarity from WR if that should this cover under 17, as frogs are poaching so early in this case

FMD France has a bucketload of clubs and talent pathways galore, and they're taking kids now?

Let him go if his parents are that keen for him to earn money. One locking prospect here or there isn't going to make a difference.,

@African-Monkey said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Any reason why so many Aussies go to Exeter? Is there a link between them and Aussie rugby?

This article goes a bit more into it:

There doesn't seem to be anything formalized between RA and Exeter Chiefs, just a lot of positive feedback from former Australian Exeter players, like Nic White and Greg Holmes.

Might be a bit misleading given their current financial insecurities and poor sporting performances, but, to be fair to Exeter Chiefs, they were always a very well-run rugby club until the economic effects of the pandemic hit them hard. (see for example: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/rugby-union/article/exeter-blame-covid-hangover-as-pre-tax-losses-nearly-double-mrgb6mmkc)

In a major boost for Australian rugby, the country’s best Super Rugby player of the past two years, Fraser McReight, has re-signed with the Queensland Reds.

A week after The Roar revealed that McReight was strongly weighing up a move to the land of the rising sun, the 26-year-old turned down a $1.3 million deal in Japan to sign a new three-year deal with the Reds that will keep the openside flanker in the country beyond the 2027 home World Cup.

An announcement is expected in the coming days.

There is no Waratahs thread on here, but at what point do people start to question if maybe Dan McKellar isn't actually as good a coach as is always claimed?

@frugby said in Moana Pasifika v Waratahs:

There is no Waratahs thread on here, but at what point do people start to question if maybe Dan McKellar isn't actually as good a coach as is always claimed?

The Waratahs are the biggest underachievers in Super Rugby. Failure is.baked in to the walls of that organisation.

@mariner4life said in Moana Pasifika v Waratahs:

@frugby said in Moana Pasifika v Waratahs:

There is no Waratahs thread on here, but at what point do people start to question if maybe Dan McKellar isn't actually as good a coach as is always claimed?

The Waratahs are the biggest underachievers in Super Rugby. Failure is.baked in to the walls of that organisation.

If there is a team to dislike it's the Waratahs

He'll be eligible to play against the Lions - both for Tahs and Wallabies