NPC Div 1 - Final rounds

African Monkey

The losses to Waikato and Counties could cost us. Hopefully that Otago performance will kickstart our season.

Duluth
Team Points Last Game Points Difference
Canterbury 40 Counties (away) +190
Taranaki 32 Auckland (home) +76
Counties Man 29 Canterbury (home) +38
Auckland 28 Taranaki (away) +36
Ta$man 27 NH(away) and Southland (home) +16
Waikato 25 Wellington (away) + 6
Hawke's Bay 14 BOP (home) -130

Canterbury will finish first
Hawkes Bay will be relegated

Matches involving the semi final contenders

Date Match Venue
12-Oct North Harbour v Ta$man Albany
13-Oct Taranaki v Auckland New Plymouth
15-Oct Counties Manukau v Canterbury Pukekohe
15-Oct Wellington v Waikato Wellington
16-Oct Ta$man v Southland Nelson

You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

Crucial

I'll be cheering for Naki over Auckland by the look of things.

Duluth

@Crucial

and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

Crucial

@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

@Crucial

and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back

What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.

Duluth

@Crucial

I think its points difference? Couldn't find it on the NPC website though

Crucial

Found it....

the winner of the round robin match between the two provinces
highest overall points difference
highest number of tries scored
highest number of points scored
a coin toss

CM beat both Waikato and Auck (although very unlikely a tie break will be needed against Auck). Lost to Ta$man (again unlikely tie break required)

CMs first option is to win, then just to pick up Bps, then to hope for Naki to beat Auck and Auck to get a max of 1 point.

I see last place going to CM or Auck. Waikato an outsider.

If CM take fourth place they will play Canterbury again

Stargazer

@Crucial said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

@Crucial

and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)

Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back

What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.

Posted on the ITM Cup website last year:

Tie break rules:
In case two teams are tied on competition points after round robin, here's what happens:
i) The winner of the round robin match between the two sides has the higher position
ii) If they didn't play a round robin match, then it goes to points difference  

If three (or more) teams are tied on competition points, here's what happens:
i) The team that has earned the most competition points against the other teams has the higher position
ii) If there's still a tie, it goes to points difference

Should teams still be tied after looking at previous results and points difference, then here's how the tie gets broken:
i) The team with the most tries across the competition has the higher position
ii) If tries scored across the competition is the same,  then the team with the most points goes ahead
 
And if that doesn't work: it comes down to the toss of a coin!
Chris B.

@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

Wouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.

Crucial

@Chris-B. said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much

Wouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.

Well you were right about Harbour. No 10 points now

Crucial

Just realised CM have a sniff at at home semi now.
Slightly less unlikely than before.

Crucial

This Auckland/Naki game has the hallmarks of being a real spoiler. Lots of tries, close game.

Come on Naki!

Crucial

Naki get their fourth try and one more point on the table.

Crucial

Now Auckland get their fourth. 1 more point on the table and the lead in the match.

Fucken Naki. That loss at the death to them in round 5 is coming back at us like a bad kebab.

Crucial

Yes. On the death stroke. (always had faith in you Naki 😉 )

Apologies if these last posts should have been on a match thread but I couldn't find it and the outcome of this match had a big bearing on standings.

SammyC

Auckland out of the playoffs.... hahahahahaha

African Monkey

@SammyC If you guys lose to Counties which I'm sure you will for good measure.

Crucial

@SammyC said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:

Auckland out of the playoffs.... hahahahahaha

Not yet, although you wouldn't bet on Ta$man losing to Southland.

mimic

Yeah.. Auckland isn't out of the playoffs yet..
Tbh, I was hoping they would miss out.. so we can get a new coach

African Monkey

@mimic Lol even if we do go through we're only gonna lose to Canterbury anyway. Having said that it was a much better effort tonight. Scrum was much better this week, unfortunately we didn't have a clue on how to stop the rolling maul which was all Taranaki really had.