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@dogmeat said in Boxing Thread:

Thriller In Manila was on just after 3 in NZ - had time to leave school grab some beers and get home with mates to watch it

@MN5 Ali was hardly a drafy dodger he showed up to the induction as he was supposed to but refused to serve in Vietnam coz he saw it for what it was and also "no yella man ever called me nigger". For this he lost arguably his best fighting years to a vindictive justice system that insisted on calling him Cassius Clay and making an example of the uppity black.

Sorry, shoulda clarified. He was viewed as a draft dodger by the rednecks at the time. The ins and outs were a bit more complicated

Back to the present , it’s looking like the wbo will hold firm and strip usyk of his title if he doesn’t fighter parker next .

Then we could have parker v ? For the title.

No doubt Hearn will,use AJs commercial value as a selling point , Frank may push for Moses itauma the promising 19 year old . ( that fight scares me ,that kid looks destined for greatness )

Or interestingly on the wbo rankings , parker is the interim champion , and justis Huni is the number 1 contender . A trans Ta$man world title fight would be massive in this part of the world .

But I suspect usyk may opt for parker and then Dubois should he win , and retire with all the belts as his plan .

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

Back to the present , it’s looking like the wbo will hold firm and strip usyk of his title if he doesn’t fighter parker next .

Then we could have parker v ? For the title.

No doubt Hearn will,use AJs commercial value as a selling point , Frank may push for Moses itauma the promising 19 year old . ( that fight scares me ,that kid looks destined for greatness )

Or interestingly on the wbo rankings , parker is the interim champion , and justis Huni is the number 1 contender . A trans Ta$man world title fight would be massive in this part of the world .

But I suspect usyk may opt for parker and then Dubois should he win , and retire with all the belts as his plan .

Yeah Huni would be set up for Parker if it went vacant. An easy night for Parker if it happened. Huni's chin is suspect, and lacks pop for a HW.

It doesn't really matter what Usyk does from now on in honesty. He's conquered boxing.

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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

Back to the present , it’s looking like the wbo will hold firm and strip usyk of his title if he doesn’t fighter parker next .

Then we could have parker v ? For the title.

No doubt Hearn will,use AJs commercial value as a selling point , Frank may push for Moses itauma the promising 19 year old . ( that fight scares me ,that kid looks destined for greatness )

Or interestingly on the wbo rankings , parker is the interim champion , and justis Huni is the number 1 contender . A trans Ta$man world title fight would be massive in this part of the world .

But I suspect usyk may opt for parker and then Dubois should he win , and retire with all the belts as his plan .

Yeah Huni would be set up for Parker if it went vacant. An easy night for Parker if it happened. Huni's chin is suspect, and lacks pop for a HW.

It doesn't really matter what Usyk does from now on in honesty. He's conquered boxing.

For sure, agree with both points .

There was talk if Joe fights usyk we could see huni v Moses on the same card. Huni gets destroyed there .

End of the day it might depend on what turki wants , so far his influence on matching up fighters has been on point.

Huni has very good offence skills.. excellent combos and body work - similar to Kabayel
The big question with Huni is defense and punch resistance...he doesn't just get hurt he gets scrambled and has yet to step up to elite level- which really makes a mockery of his WBO ranking unrealistically high. Hunis team need to match him intelligently so he can make a title challenge happen before that chin is exposed

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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

Back to the present , it’s looking like the wbo will hold firm and strip usyk of his title if he doesn’t fighter parker next .

Then we could have parker v ? For the title.

No doubt Hearn will,use AJs commercial value as a selling point , Frank may push for Moses itauma the promising 19 year old . ( that fight scares me ,that kid looks destined for greatness )

Or interestingly on the wbo rankings , parker is the interim champion , and justis Huni is the number 1 contender . A trans Ta$man world title fight would be massive in this part of the world .

But I suspect usyk may opt for parker and then Dubois should he win , and retire with all the belts as his plan .

Yeah Huni would be set up for Parker if it went vacant. An easy night for Parker if it happened. Huni's chin is suspect, and lacks pop for a HW.

> It doesn't really matter what Usyk does from now on in honesty. He's conquered boxing.

Agreed.

What more can he do except risk tarnishing his legacy a bit ?

Big George Foreman passes away at 76

Not only a great fighter but a great character of the sport

RIP Champ

This popped up on my you tube feed ,george hitting the heavy bag at 74

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

This popped up on my you tube feed ,george hitting the heavy bag at 74

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Watch again.

Definitely someone else hitting the bag.

Not that I would have mentioned that out loud to Foreman !

@MN5 yeah see it now

No stunt doubles here though

Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

Gallen's a bum whose fighting record is losing to anyone who wasn't a footy player masquerading as a boxer. But he's a tough bum with a puncher's chance.

SBW should be embarrassed if he loses.

Gallen boxes like a prop... matches forward has ok punch but massive engine and continuous pressure which to part time boxes or anyone without footwork or a punch to keep him off is a nightmare. A short stocky Joe Joyce.
Huni is a top 15HW (ranked higher by WBO but really has done enough yet) and toyed with him.
SBW can box and move but was KO'd by old slow Hunt (slow but ridiculous heavy hands) .
I can see why SBW wants 2 min rounds to limit fatigue as Gallen engine would drown him but I still lean to Gallen as he will bite down and apply too much pressure for SBW.
SBW can box but his chin is sus and how he reacts to being hit lacks instincts of a fighter.
Gallen victory by anyway possible because thats him

@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

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Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

They are reportedly about to earn 2 mill each if they can sell it correctly and pretend they hate each other .

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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

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Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

They are reportedly about to earn 2 mill each if they can sell it correctly and pretend they hate each other .

That is excellent money for two non boxers it must be said

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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

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Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

They are reportedly about to earn 2 mill each if they can sell it correctly and pretend they hate each other .

That is excellent money for two non boxers it must be said

Yep and two retired footballers , it’s hard to blame them,

In real boxing it’s looking increasingly like we are getting usyk v Dubois in July, not sure what it means for parker .

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

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Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

They are reportedly about to earn 2 mill each if they can sell it correctly and pretend they hate each other .

That is excellent money for two non boxers it must be said

Yep and two retired footballers , it’s hard to blame them,

In real boxing it’s looking increasingly like we are getting usyk v Dubois in July, not sure what it means for parker .

For such a specialised and downright potentially dangerous sport it baffles me ( and always has ) that people with athleticism, profile and a willingness to give it a go can go far. SBW has more pedigree than Gallen.....but by golly they would look like absolute chumps in the ring with any geniune top heavyweights.

It's a similar principle to a bunch of strong, fast, athletic guys giving Rugby a go.

@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

SBW has more pedigree than Gallen.....but by golly they would look like absolute chumps in the ring with any geniune top heavyweights.

I'm being serious here, SBW has boxed against more traditional (but faded) boxers hasn't he? And Gallen more against ex-leaguies? If so, despite and because of the different skillset/expeprience, could Gallen have an advantage (not height, fitness, age, reach, or perhaps traditional boxer training though)...

I'm transferring here, but have heard from oldtimers in other martial arts that sometimes it is harder to fight against newbies because they are so unpredictable (not knowing the proper techniques)...

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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

SBW has more pedigree than Gallen.....but by golly they would look like absolute chumps in the ring with any geniune top heavyweights.

I'm being serious here, SBW has boxed against more traditional (but faded) boxers hasn't he? And Gallen more against ex-leaguies? If so, despite and because of the different skillset/expeprience, could Gallen have an advantage (not height, fitness, age, reach, or perhaps traditional boxer training though)...

I'm transferring here, but have heard from oldtimers in other martial arts that sometimes it is harder to fight against newbies because they are so unpredictable (not knowing the proper techniques)...

First time for everything

SBW vs Gallen is an ( EXTREMELY ) poor mans Ali vs Frazier. With all due respect to a couple of excellent footy players who were great at what they did that is probably insulting to the actual boxers to make this comparison.

Worth noting Gallen beat Mark Hunt who knocked out SBW but then again there is the whole "styles make fights" argument so its a tough one to gauge.

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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

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Well, they're doing their best to make themselves relevant I suppose.

I'm sure it'll all be hugs and kind words after the actual fight.....

They are reportedly about to earn 2 mill each if they can sell it correctly and pretend they hate each other .

That is excellent money for two non boxers it must be said

Yep and two retired footballers , it’s hard to blame them,

In real boxing it’s looking increasingly like we are getting usyk v Dubois in July, not sure what it means for parker .

For such a specialised and downright potentially dangerous sport it baffles me ( and always has ) that people with athleticism, profile and a willingness to give it a go can go far. SBW has more pedigree than Gallen.....but by golly they would look like absolute chumps in the ring with any geniune top heavyweights.

It's a similar principle to a bunch of strong, fast, athletic guys giving Rugby a go.

They wouldn’t lay a glove on usyk ,nothing would land , Dubois would walk them down and destroy them within minutes , it would be cruel to watch .

Not only are they much inferior boxers , they are 39 and 43

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

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I like how Usyk always has to fight English HWs twice.

Benn v Eubank was a classic

@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

Benn v Eubank was a classic

Amazing that the rivalry continues into the next generation. The chances of one of them forging a career are low, BOTH of them is ridiculous.

Their old men were absolute warriors.

@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

Benn v Eubank was a classic

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yeah was a great fight even if the two of them dont really trouble the top guys in their division ,

Sometimes a local grudge fight really delivers because of the intense rivalry

So are we not talking SBW/Gallen?

Perhaps leave the thread for discussion of actual boxers?

Brilliant build up, Gallen is good at the marketing shit eh. Pretty naff fight.

I love my boxing but refuse to pay for that , tried to find a stream but wasn’t having much luck and went to bed

Sounds like a draw would have been a good result .

Some good fights Sunday though , usyk v Dubois and Tim tszyu tries to avenge his loss to fundora .

While on the usyk v Dubois fight,

Frank warren through the week in an interview said Joe parker is guaranteed to fight the winner,

I have mixed emotions on who I want to win , I think Joe has less chance of beating usyk but also has less chance of being brutally knocked out , Dubois is a lesser boxer but his power is real.

Dubois has a hail mary chance only, if he doesn't land a KO punch Uysk schools him again and gets DD to take a knee as he will think he is surrounded .

Same as the first fight, Usyk schools him again.

That’s the safe bet,

I’m expecting dubious to try and start fast , going forwards throwing power shots in bunches , he basically has to . He’s not going to win rounds so has to try and make it chaotic and uncomfortable for usyk . The problem is usyk makes you miss and counter punches beautifully

The longer the fight goes , the harder it gets for Dubois .

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

That’s the safe bet,

I’m expecting dubious to try and start fast , going forwards throwing power shots in bunches , he basically has to . He’s not going to win rounds so has to try and make it chaotic and uncomfortable for usyk . The problem is usyk makes you miss and counter punches beautifully

The longer the fight goes , the harder it gets for Dubois .

That's Dubois style too, come out of the blocks hard and fast, problem for him is, is that the longer the fight goes on, the harder it'll be for Dubois to keep up, similar to when he lost to Joyce a few years back. Once you get a feel of Dubois power, I feel he doesn't have another gear, where as Usyk seems to get faster as the fights go on.

@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

That’s the safe bet,

I’m expecting dubious to try and start fast , going forwards throwing power shots in bunches , he basically has to . He’s not going to win rounds so has to try and make it chaotic and uncomfortable for usyk . The problem is usyk makes you miss and counter punches beautifully

The longer the fight goes , the harder it gets for Dubois .

That's Dubois style too, come out of the blocks hard and fast, problem for him is, is that the longer the fight goes on, the harder it'll be for Dubois to keep up, similar to when he lost to Joyce a few years back. Once you get a feel of Dubois power, I feel he doesn't have another gear, where as Usyk seems to get faster as the fights go on.

If anyone is to beat usyk , I think it has to be someone who can achieve that , throw power shots in bunches and something connects , particularly upper cuts and body shots .

In a fantasy fight a prime mike Tyson would probably be his worst opponent to face .

I think we might be in for a few good entertaining rounds early before usyk assumes control .

@Bones said in Boxing Thread:

So are we not talking SBW/Gallen?

They don’t deserve it

I think DD is not going to go all out from the bell, he will be gagey thinking he will set Usyk up for a killer body shot that him and his team have convinced themselves they should have won from by KO in the last fight. It has some merit in that tagging Usyk clean to the head is way too taxing.
Uysk will then bank those early rounds and DD will become desperate and frustrated and the tank will run dry...=Uysk stoppage .
Parker has a better chance v Usyk than Dubois does but its still low %
If DD does connect and win I'm sure Usyk has a rematch clause so JP forced to wait another 6-9mths which is no good for him.. best case is whoever wins WBO strips them

Parker winning against Usyk? I just can't see it (nobody save this post for later thanks).