He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal 
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .
It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
Ive just seen he has a fight scheduled for jan 10th in Germany without an opponent yet , and he is calling out Dubois .
I’m not sure Dubois has a new trainer yet , he sacked Don Charles after the usyk fight .
I didn’t see when it happened but kabayal is now also signed with frank Warren.
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
He’s not so much the classic one punch knockout fighter
He breaks fighters down with a high volume of combinations , particularly sustained body shots . That’s what got zhang , he chopped him down like a tree .
If the usyk wardley fight can’t be made ( it’s not confirmed yet ) the fight that makes the most sense for wardley is a rematch with Parker . That’s straight out of the mouth of Ben Davidson his trainer .
Kabayel is virtually the fighter Eddie Hearn tried to tell us that Dillian Whyte was. A brilliant body puncher as you said. There's a reason why he's been avoided throughout his career.
It's funny how after he beat Chisora in 2017, how no one wanted a bar of him after that.
As great as he is , Mr Usyk has shown if he has a weakness it’s probably body shots .
Now that he is the A side and can pick and choose, I don’t think we will see Usyk v Kabayal
There is probably easier options for him that will generate more money .It's the fight I'd want to see even if Usyk is far better than everyone else. He's undefeated and as you said, his main strength is Usyk's potential weakness, but yeah, promoters and fans don't get behind Kabayel.
Kabayel is almost becoming this generation's Luis Ortiz. Wait for him to get old before all of a sudden people line up to fight him. He might need to look bad in some fights to get rival promoter's and fighters attention.
Ive just seen he has a fight scheduled for jan 10th in Germany without an opponent yet , and he is calling out Dubois .
I’m not sure Dubois has a new trainer yet , he sacked Don Charles after the usyk fight .
I didn’t see when it happened but kabayal is now also signed with frank Warren.
Yeah Kabayel was meant to face Nelson Hysa which would have been a waste of time, but that fell through apparently. It won't be anyone special if it's in Germany put it this way.
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Signing with Frank Warren is a career crusher for a fighter if they are not from UK...
Uk boxing is dominated in the promoter ranks by Warren and Hearn...then trailing behind Shalom,
Non UK fighters really need better- fairer representation as its stalling/ruining careers
Always been the way if you're not from the UK/US. Many Eastern Europeans fall into oblivion as a result. Promotion is a tough business and extremely tough to make profit if you don't have a TV network backing you. Look at Bob Arum and Top Rank now that they don't have the ESPN deal now. Frank Warren is like the Winston Peters of Boxing promotion. Just as you think he's down and out and won't be back, he always finds a way back in.
It's even tougher now that Turki has seemingly distanced himself from the HWs for now.
15 days later
Wow. Sky Sports in Uk reporting that Parker failed a drugs test on day of Wardley fight. Tested positive for traces of cocaine …
Full story has broken. Joseph Parker tested positive for cocaine and faces a possibly lengthy ban from the sport.
Absolutely shocked. You feel you ( don't actually but you know.....) know someone. Really amazed to be honest.
I’m not that shocked he’s used , it’s the party drug of choice for heaps of sports people whether we like it or not.
But shocked he tested positive on fight day , can’t find what sort of test it was , my understanding it only stays in the system for two days in blood tests .. Urine 4 days . Surely not 
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
I’m not that shocked he’s used , it’s the party drug of choice for heaps of sports people whether we like it or not.
But shocked he tested positive on fight day , can’t find what sort of test it was , my understanding it only stays in the system for two days in blood tests .. Urine 4 days . Surely not
Yeah, I'm mildly surprised that he did it but shocked WHEN he did it.
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah, I'm mildly surprised that he did it but shocked WHEN he did it.
Well said, I imagine this decision, in terms of his future fights, could cost millions.
@mohikamo said in Boxing Thread:
What are we shocked about?
That he used cocaine?
I'm not shocked in the least, party drug of choice, because it doesn't stay in the system long.That he tested positive for cocaine?
I am extremely shocked about that.
Shock that he risked his career and took it so close to the fight.
The only thing I can come up with , and it’s not an excuse
He had a line to help deal with all the media conferences etc ( it makes you feel relaxed and confident) His close mate fury has been accused of acting like he is coked up in press conferences.
I just don’t see him partying in the week leading up to a fight particularly with his family with him , and that’s the only sense I can make of it .
Usyk vacated his wbo belt , making wardley the wbo champion,
And there you have it , Joe was leading that fight with a few rounds to go and if he could have hung on would be world champion again.
Instead lost and tested positive to cocaine and looking at a 2 year ban which could finish his career, talk about a sliding doors moment
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
So uysk only made the call after Parker loses and cannot rematch.
Usyk is obviously scared of Parker ... no, I can't write that even as a bad joke...
So listening to that, John’s saying Jake Paul won’t be saved by the bell end; in fact quite the opposite.
I still can't believe people out there legitimately think Paul beat Tyson fair and square.
11 days later
looks like usyk has chosen to fight Wilder , interesting choice given that Wilder has looked cooked for some time ,
im not knocking usyk because i think hes probably done enough to justify his greatness, but it does look like hes cashing in now choosing Wilder over Wardley
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
looks like usyk has chosen to fight Wilder , interesting choice given that Wilder has looked cooked for some time ,
im not knocking usyk because i think hes probably done enough to justify his greatness, but it does look like hes cashing in now choosing Wilder over Wardley
I saw this and wondered if it was some sort of satire.
Wilder is cooked. The Fury trilogy and the losses to Parker and Zhang well and truly proved this.
He’s a punchers chance sure but Usyk will absolutely school him.
It is still a big opportunity for Wilder, not sure why he deserves it to be honest, now, but good for him.
15 days later
I reckon they had an agreement not to box with any serious intent the first x rounds. Glad I didn't pay to watch that glorified bout of knee-hugging.
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
I reckon they had an agreement not to box with any serious intent the first x rounds. Glad I didn't pay to watch that glorified bout of knee-hugging.
Sounds like sanity prevailed and the actual boxer boxed and won.
If there were no fixes involved ( and that’s a massive IF ) then it’s incredible it went as long as it did.
