Fury v Makhmudov on Netlix April 11
Too be honest none of the older generation are interested in Moses - Risk v reward
Moses doesn't have a title and will be awhile before he gets a shot- unless Dubois beats Wardley ( Moses and Wardley stable mates so won't fight) Frank may want to promote that inhouse.
Wilder and AJ should fight asap otherwise 1 will get beaten again and the big retirement payday is gone.
AJ may want Fury but don't think Fury wants it- he only has eyes on Usyk.
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Fury v Makhmudov on Netlix April 11
Too be honest none of the older generation are interested in Moses - Risk v reward
Moses doesn't have a title and will be awhile before he gets a shot- unless Dubois beats Wardley ( Moses and Wardley stable mates so won't fight) Frank may want to promote that inhouse.
Wilder and AJ should fight asap otherwise 1 will get beaten again and the big retirement payday is gone.
AJ may want Fury but don't think Fury wants it- he only has eyes on Usyk.
Even though he’s still a bit green and perhaps not quite ready,
I’d pick Moses to beat everyone right now except usyk
7 days later
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
Jai wants to unify Cruiserweight and then move to heavyweight . Thats always been his goal. I know his cousin , he walks around at 220 pounds and diets down to make weight, and he believes he can easily put on 10 kilos or more of good strength.
But doesnt want to go back and forwards. Once he goes to heavyweight he stays there . but he is getting the shits with how hard it is to make big fights, if this all drags on and on he may just pull the trigger and move up.The bigger money is at heavyweight anyway .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
Jai wants to unify Cruiserweight and then move to heavyweight . Thats always been his goal. I know his cousin , he walks around at 220 pounds and diets down to make weight, and he believes he can easily put on 10 kilos or more of good strength.
But doesnt want to go back and forwards. Once he goes to heavyweight he stays there . but he is getting the shits with how hard it is to make big fights, if this all drags on and on he may just pull the trigger and move up.The bigger money is at heavyweight anyway .
He should just move up anyway imo. The CW divison is back to being a wasteland again after a good few years with Usyk, prime Briedis, Dorticos, Gassiev etc in it. He's wasting his prime years waiting around.
Can't see him moving up for a few years. He gets asked about moving up all the time and he gives the same answer about not moving up until he's undisputed. The problem is it's really hard to do.
He first won the IBF title in 2022 and hasn't had a shot at any of the other champs since. I think he signed with Zuffa because he's hoping Turki can just will these big fights over the line with big money offers.
25 days later
Wow , what a war ,
Can’t think of a more entertaining heavyweight fight in recent memory, probably challenges the best ever fights of all time for pure entertainment value
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Yeah a throw back.. i was calling for Fabios corner to save their man... I know he has a hail mary but he took way too much punishment.
A brave corner is dangerous
Yeah , I guess while he is still standing he is still a chance , just like wilder ,
Must be hard to pull the trigger when you have a fighter like that , sometimes you just got to though, some of these fighters are too brave for their own good ,
Wouldn’t be surprised if we get a rematch, or Moses if they think he’s ready
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Fabios speed troubled DD early so Moses will have that advantage but no one knows how Moses will respond to pulled into a war...
Rematch clause is there for Fabio but he will take some recovery time
If there is @ rematch clause he will take it , you just never know, on a different day he may land that big shot
Congrats to both men, both afraid to fight nobody and prepared to jump in and have a tear up.
I think now the dust has settled, the big takeaway for me is Dubois is a very dangerous opponent for many , Very heavy hands , that jab hits like a jackhammer and his footwork is underrated ,
The fact he has quit on occasions when things aren’t working for him is maybe the biggest trap out there for some fighters , and a dangerous assumption, because do you have the arsenal to make him quit ? if not you will be in for a very tough night .
Maybe with hindsight Joe dodged a bullet when his fight was canceled, I mean Hrgovic, AJ , Fabio are in the area of 50/50 fights for him , and Dubois demolished them , Usyk is in a class of his own .
12 days later
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
Usyk v Rico
Awesome contest
Sounded like a controversial stoppage. Did you see it ?
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:
Usyk v Rico
Awesome contest
Sounded like a controversial stoppage. Did you see it ?
Yes
Very close fight with Rico ahead on the cards coming into the 11th
Better 11th round for Usyk and he caught Rico on the temple late in the round.
Rico was rocked, lost his gum shield and had close to 30 seconds before the ref resumed the fight with about 10 seconds to go.
Usyk was letting fly and the ref called it with about 1-2 seconds to go
Arguably the ref could have let it go and more than likely Usyk would have ended it emphatically in the final round
Rico comes out with huge respect and plaudits
Only his second ever boxing match
Amazing athlete