Did anyone know this fight was on until yesterday ?
Me neither
Wilders record looks really good on paper, considerably better than any number of all time greats.
I really hope this was the last fight for both of these guys.
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
Did anyone know this fight was on until yesterday ?
Me neither
Wilders record looks really good on paper, considerably better than any number of all time greats.
I really hope this was the last fight for both of these guys.
Two local legends fighting outside the rugby club after too many pints
Great entertainment
@African-Monkey Exactly
AJ would be best earner
Wilder looked better than he has for a few years but Chisora is a slow plodder so made him look better.
should target AJ as anyone in the top 10 probably KO's him
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
@African-Monkey Exactly
AJ would be best earner
Wilder looked better than he has for a few years but Chisora is a slow plodder so made him look better.
should target AJ as anyone in the top 10 probably KO's him
I still think he can beat AJ too. We've seen that AJ doesn't like getting hit, and even though Wilder is delusional and shot, he has a ton of heart and doesn't have any quit in him.
I'm a Wilder fan. He's a much better boxer than people give him credit for with a ton of heart......and his power is awesome.
....but lets be realistic about who he was up against.
He isn't the same fighter after the Fury trilogy ( and neither is Fury to be fair )
Fun fight even if it resembled a couple of drunks swinging for the fence at times 
, wilders best performance for a while , not sure if that had anything to do with a change of trainers ,
Moses last week was impressive I thought , showed more patience than usual and seemed to pick his moments more against a durable opponent . Still looks to be the future of the division.
Wardley v Dubois may 6th should be a good one .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Fun fight even if it resembled a couple of drunks swinging for the fence at times
Moses last week was impressive I thought , showed more patience than usual and seemed to pick his moments more against a durable opponent . Still looks to be the future of the division.
Wardley v Dubois may 6th should be a good one .
Wardley Dubois is must watch TV. A straight shootout that one which won't go 12.
Fury v Makhmudov on Netlix April 11
Too be honest none of the older generation are interested in Moses - Risk v reward
Moses doesn't have a title and will be awhile before he gets a shot- unless Dubois beats Wardley ( Moses and Wardley stable mates so won't fight) Frank may want to promote that inhouse.
Wilder and AJ should fight asap otherwise 1 will get beaten again and the big retirement payday is gone.
AJ may want Fury but don't think Fury wants it- he only has eyes on Usyk.
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Fury v Makhmudov on Netlix April 11
Too be honest none of the older generation are interested in Moses - Risk v reward
Moses doesn't have a title and will be awhile before he gets a shot- unless Dubois beats Wardley ( Moses and Wardley stable mates so won't fight) Frank may want to promote that inhouse.
Wilder and AJ should fight asap otherwise 1 will get beaten again and the big retirement payday is gone.
AJ may want Fury but don't think Fury wants it- he only has eyes on Usyk.
Even though he’s still a bit green and perhaps not quite ready,
I’d pick Moses to beat everyone right now except usyk
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David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
Jai wants to unify Cruiserweight and then move to heavyweight . Thats always been his goal. I know his cousin , he walks around at 220 pounds and diets down to make weight, and he believes he can easily put on 10 kilos or more of good strength.
But doesnt want to go back and forwards. Once he goes to heavyweight he stays there . but he is getting the shits with how hard it is to make big fights, if this all drags on and on he may just pull the trigger and move up.The bigger money is at heavyweight anyway .
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@Dice said in Boxing Thread:
David Nyika could be in line for a world title fight soon with Opetaia and CBS under Zuffa. He'll fight Viddal Riley for the vacant IBF title if things fall his way.
How does that work if opetaia just recently got stripped of the IBF belt for fighting under Zuffa ?
With Opetaia stripped, it was assumed Riley and CBS would fight for the vacant IBF title - they still could fight but people assume that because he just signed for Zuffa last night, that fight is likely off as they don't see the IBF working with Zuffa. Naturally Opetaia would likely get the next shot at Riley as he got re-ranked to 4th behind CBS, but he's also under Zuffa.
So with CBS and Opetaia possibly out of the way, Nyika has a decent shot of getting to fight Riley for the vacant title. Although it could also be Masson(another Kiwi) or Perez.
Not sure if I answered your question though, as I'm not quite sure what you mean.
yeah that makes sense, i misunderstood how you meant it , thought you meant Zuffa was involved
Cruiserweight division turning into a non event , we should have had unification fights by now , it should have been Opetaia v Ramirez, well before it has come to this , although Ramirez v Benevidoz is at least an interesting match up for a change .
Yeah, Zurdo vs Opetaia needed to happen already. That fight has a chance to happen this year if Zurdo holds off Benavidez as Opetaia just recently got ranked number 1 with the WBA, which is the title Zurdo holds.
I think Benavidez beats Zurdo though, and the dream would be an even better match-up between Opetaia vs Benavidez, but sadly Benavidez wants to go back down to Light Heavy after the Zurdo fight. Maybe Opetaia vs Zurdo for the vacant title if Benavidez wins?
The question mark is always Zuffa and how they let Opetaia move in his career. They need to give him freedom to fight on non-Zuffa cards and also stop parading their Zuffa belt(that's what got Opetaia got stripped).
Jai wants to unify Cruiserweight and then move to heavyweight . Thats always been his goal. I know his cousin , he walks around at 220 pounds and diets down to make weight, and he believes he can easily put on 10 kilos or more of good strength.
But doesnt want to go back and forwards. Once he goes to heavyweight he stays there . but he is getting the shits with how hard it is to make big fights, if this all drags on and on he may just pull the trigger and move up.The bigger money is at heavyweight anyway .
He should just move up anyway imo. The CW divison is back to being a wasteland again after a good few years with Usyk, prime Briedis, Dorticos, Gassiev etc in it. He's wasting his prime years waiting around.
Can't see him moving up for a few years. He gets asked about moving up all the time and he gives the same answer about not moving up until he's undisputed. The problem is it's really hard to do.
He first won the IBF title in 2022 and hasn't had a shot at any of the other champs since. I think he signed with Zuffa because he's hoping Turki can just will these big fights over the line with big money offers.
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